PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

They weren't 'falsified' though were they? Two were combined to make it sound worse than it was but I don't think the wording was altered?

Regardless, it's all political bollocks and I'm still not even faintly stressed.

This is what CAS said, so, in the spirit of Christmas, I guess you were both right.

 

[cheekybids]

At least one of the email copies was fabricated by merging two together. This was stated in CAS but not reported by any mainstream media as far as I know. That says everything.

That should be repeated at every opportunity when discussing it & fired at journalists for not reporting.

 

[cheekybids]

This is what CAS said, so, in the spirit of Christmas, I guess you were both right.

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Can we not delete the last sentence ;-)

 

[halfcenturyup]

if this is what it says then to me it reads like

1) try to get some information from a 3rd party but if you fail to do so then fine.
2) make sure any MCFC staff are available for questioning.

I doubt we fail on any of those points.

Correct, except in our case, the PL knows we have such third party evidence from the CAS hearing, so, if the club decided not to hand it over to the investigation together with similar evidence for the years also covered by the PL but, rather, wait until there is an "independent" tribunal, then they could say that was non-cooperation. Perfectly understandable approach to me but it could jangle a few PL chains .....

 

[Dribble]

The fact that the PL have updated the rules about 3rd party docs must show previously requests weren’t enforceable.

Fine. City ask Etisalat, Jaber Mohammed & ADUG to open their books for UEFA. They tell City to go fuck themselves. The end. \0/

 

[KS55]

They weren't 'falsified' though were they? Two were combined to make it sound worse than it was but I don't think the wording was altered?

Regardless, it's all political bollocks and I'm still not even faintly stressed.

Running two together when in reality they were years apart is falsification. The words need not be changed for falsification.

 

[cheekybids]

Running two together when in reality they were years apart is falsification. The words need not be changed for falsification.

Exactly - Had Der Spiegel provided the emails in context there is no story & no charges.

You can’t get any more “falsified” than that.

 

[KS55]

Bank statements again. You guys.

They can't make unreasonable demands but I suppose they could ask for some confirmation from third parties that what the club says is true. After all, in City's case, the PL knows we provided such information at CAS, so withholding it this time could be seen as non-cooperation. The club ignoring such requests because they weren't provided for in the rules (historically) and preferring to give third party evidence after we have been charged is my guess at what has happened, and why the club has been charged with non-cooperation and acting in bad faith.

If third parties provided information subject to a provision that it was strictly for the purpose of Case 1, City could not hand it over in Case2. I dont expect this was the case, but it is an important point for the future. Certainly if I were a third party handing over info I would make sure it was otherwise protected.

 

[Dribble]

Running two together when in reality they were years apart is falsification. The words need not be changed for falsification.

Ordinarily you'd highlight the pertinent points to support your case, but also provide the full exchanges as an appendix so they can be forensically scrutinised.

It's not stated that UEFA did this, but if they didn't, it's extremely amateurish of them. If I were defending, the first thing I'd highlight is why hasn't the full exchange been provided, but only selected sections spliced together, which in isolation paint a wholly different picture to the reality of the situation?

 

[wolviedinho]

interesting reading the last few pages. If it’s anything to go by, the lawyers will be fighting over interpretation and timing of events while trying to meet the very high level based on balance and probabilities the club did not provide a true and fair picture of its accounts. Based on here, it looks an impossible task.

The only bad actor here is the Premier league which is not acting in good faith.

I honestly hope we drag this out for another 10 seasons. Every dirty accusation has been thrown at us and we are building resilience while winning. Everyone has us down as cheats so it won’t matter if the case was heard tomorrow and we got a full pardon. Football fans don’t care, all they will say is cheats.

City fans are a resilient bunch anyway. Another episode of character building. Going up to a rags house today for lunch. Think I will put on my new city gear to initiate a nice sensible discussion on all things 115 -:)

He isn’t the worse but still can’t accept the new football pyramid. It is Christmas and all so maybe I will go easy on him? Nah -:)

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