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Postman Pep said:
Conveniently timed so it didn't have to be declared pre election .... something Keith has form for.


“During his bid to become leader of the Labour Party, Starmer refused to contemporaneously publish details of who had donated to his leadership campaign. His rivals, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Lisa Nandy, agreed to share details of their donors in real-time, which they published. Starmer, however, decided only to declare his donations via his MP's register of interests, which created a significant lag between when Starmer accepted his donations and when they were made public.

“Labour members, as a result, had no idea at the time of voting that Starmer had been funded with large donations from the likes of wealthy millionaires like Martin Taylor and Sir Trevor Chinn and Baron Waheed Ali; the latter now at the centre of the furore about Starmer's acceptance of gratuities.”
www.opendemocracy.net

Labour handed £4m from tax haven-based hedge fund

Quadrature’s donation is noteworthy not just for being Labour’s largest-ever, but for its timing ahead of election
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Nothing to see here mate.

Starmer isn’t as bad as Johnson so can’t be criticised and Lord Alli is just an altruistic chap and these were the best people for the job.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Reeves might as well have Leonard Cohen playing behind her to make her speech less depressing.

Doubling down on austerity and expecting us to pay for the Tories spending rather than taxing the cunts that's profited from our national traumas of Brexit and COVID.
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Well TBF she has just said they going after covid corruption so least that’s still a commitment and not quietly forgotten after the election. I hope they succeed on this and if any Tory is guilty of corruption they should do time.
 
mackenzie said:
She did sound like a dalek at one point but I think the content of her speech has been quite refreshing. Especially the COVID bit and the focus on tax evasion/avoidance.
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She’s said quite a bit but I liked plenty of it. Devil in detail so let’s see if plan matches the words but it’s quite encouraging.
 
mackenzie said:
She did sound like a dalek at one point but I think the content of her speech has been quite refreshing. Especially the COVID bit and the focus on tax evasion/avoidance.
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She's got 5 years to show me she's going to do the job. If she proves me wrong I'll put my hands up.
 
TinFoilHat said:
"They'll be no return to Austerity."

Bullshit. Prove me wrong at the budget Robot and I'll put my hands up.
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She only has 3 options doesn't she. (a) Raise taxes, (b) borrow more, (c) make cuts, or at least limit spending.

The problem with just doing (a) is that she cannot raise enough without adversely impacting normal working people. She cannot (won't) do (b) to fund day-to-day spending. So that leaves (c).
 
mackenzie said:
She did sound like a dalek at one point but I think the content of her speech has been quite refreshing. Especially the COVID bit and the focus on tax evasion/avoidance.
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What did she say? OF COURSE we should clamp down on tax evasion, which is illegal. Tax avoidance is not only legal, it is sensible. Heck, governments encourage it, for example encouraging you to save by putting money into an ISA. For example, by giving tax breaks on investing in small business. A good thing.
 
TinFoilHat said:
She's got 5 years to show me she's going to do the job. If she proves me wrong I'll put my hands up.
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I will be staggered if she is still the chancellor in 5 years time. You shoud have seen the look on her face this morning whilst being grilled by Suzanna Reid. You could read it like a book. It said,

"Fucking hell, I had no idea this governing lark would be as hard as this. I'm used to throwing shit at people, not receiving it."

Apart from anything else, the press are not going to give up on the WFA debacle, so at some point Free Gear Keir is going to have to come out and say "sorry Thieves, it's all your fault, fall on your sword".
 
Chippy_boy said:
She only has 3 options doesn't she. (a) Raise taxes, (b) borrow more, (c) make cuts, or at least limit spending.

The problem with just doing (a) is that she cannot raise enough without adversely impacting normal working people. She cannot (won't) do (b) to fund day-to-day spending. So that leaves (c).
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Hasn't she just confirmed this morning, that overall spending won't be cut in real terms?

They've already heavily suggested that wealth taxes will go up quite considerably, and as well as hinting that a lot of investment borrowing will happen without breaking her rules, some reports have suggested the rules themselves will be relaxed (using the "severe situation" as the excuse).

I guess we wait for the budget, although I doubt it'll be presented as any kind of OTT spending splurge, but surely they need to kick on with some of the investment asap.
 
Chippy_boy said:
What did she say? OF COURSE we should clamp down on tax evasion, which is illegal. Tax avoidance is not only legal, it is sensible. Heck, governments encourage it, for example encouraging you to save by putting money into an ISA. For example, by giving tax breaks on investing in small business. A good thing.
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She stated that there will be an investigation into the COVID gravy train and a focus on those tax issues.
I guess the full details will have to wait until the budget.
 
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