Thomas Tuchel | England Manager

Don't mind that appointment at all.

A lot of people's complaints about Southgate were that he had never done anything as a manager except get a boro team relegated. That he had a talented group of players but was out of his depth as a manager with the players. All valid points.

Well now you've got a manager that has won things at a high level, shown to be handy in tournament footy and has a decent set of players, so there should be no more excuses.

If the players are as good as people say, then with a proven manager, they should at least be able to beat good teams when it matters. winning a tournament is difficult but all Southgate did was beat shite teams in favourable routes through tournaments and come unstuck in any 50-50 type of game. I at least hope to see an improvement on that.

My feeling is the England squad is overrated. There's certainly some very talented players in there, but nowhere near as deep a squad as its hyped up to be
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I'm pretty sure Ericsson and Capello didn't sing the National Anthem.

And how much more negative than Southgate?
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Ericsson sang it, unbelievable but true.

The late Sven-Goran Eriksson said he never truly "mastered" the national anthem but he did attempt to sing it before matches during his time in charge of the Three Lions.

"I'm not sure I ever entirely mastered God Save the Queen but there I was, a Swede, standing in front of the bench and trying to sing it a bit," he said.
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Lee Carsley and the British national anthem explained before Republic of Ireland v England

England interim manager Lee Carsley will not sing the British national anthem before Republic of Ireland game.
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Has flaws, but is a massive upgrade that is the best England have had in I can't even remember.

However, his flaws could work for England or against.

His player management skills are up for debate. That could work to his benefit as they won't be annoyed but he will have some respect as long as they can play some football.

He's not a Klopp gegenpress, and actually as I recall more pragmatic in his "attacking" more about control than high risk.

I don't think he's been as attacking has he's aged.

Maybe I have to see the data but I recalll that later at Chelsea and the Bayern players were not listening to him and is not a company bloke.

I actually wonder of Poch would have been better, but he's still worth a shout with what's available and he has the ability to win.

I also seem to recall he had issues with big egos and there is a certain player who scores but gets away with dribbling with his head down, and having a game that otherwise would get a 4-5 rating that fits that bill and how he handles that will be fascinating.

If it fails maybe Pep is available when/if he leaves us.
 
Terrible appointment (as would Guardiola have been). International football is about our best against their best and that must include coaches as well. A developing nation choosing a foreign coach is one thing but an established international team is something else altogether.
I opposed Sven and Capello getting the job and I will oppose Tommy as well.
I just can’t ever see the French, Spanish or Germans ever appointing a non national to oversee their team and we shouldn’t either.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Terrible appointment (as would Guardiola have been). International football is about our best against their best and that must include coaches as well. A developing nation choosing a foreign coach is one thing but an established international team is something else altogether.
I opposed Sven and Capello getting the job and I will oppose Tommy as well.
I just can’t ever see the French, Spanish or Germans ever appointing a non national to oversee their team and we shouldn’t either.
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I wouldn't rule out other countries doing it if they felt there wasn't anybody suitable for the job from their own country.

Other countries like Spain have proven that you don't need a big Hollywood name to win things, but obviously their coach had enough ability so that the team goes into camp and recognises that the coach has something about them, which builds confidence.

I just can't imagine any of the England players thought the same about Southgate. Is there another English manager with the level of coaching that'll gain the respect of the players? That's a big part of it. Players aren't daft, they clearly see the difference going from training every week with Premier league managers and then being in camp with Southgate. Big name or not, you still need to make the players not feeling like they aremt going from Premier League level coaching to something much less. Is there many English managers available that'll give the players that feeling?

Some countries just have some quality coaches that arent major names. We seem to be lacking there, so maybe its worth bringing in a known winner. At least with Tommy Tuchel, they're walking into camp with a manager they know has gone head to head in a big final against someone like Pep and come out on top. Players have ego's, at least they know this guy is on "their level". Of course, people will point out it never worked with Capello, but it doesn't mean it can't. It hasn't worked with Gareth, Woy, Schteve etc either.

He's definitely not a "yes man" anyway. I'd say that's a good thing, but obviously with the risk of being a shit show too.
 
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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Terrible appointment (as would Guardiola have been). International football is about our best against their best and that must include coaches as well. A developing nation choosing a foreign coach is one thing but an established international team is something else altogether.
I opposed Sven and Capello getting the job and I will oppose Tommy as well.
I just can’t ever see the French, Spanish or Germans ever appointing a non national to oversee their team and we shouldn’t either.
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Do you read the Mail?

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Combat Carl said:
Surely they've already approached Pep and he's told them to stick it which is pleasing but I ain't having a German as England manager. It's embarrassing.
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So who is the great English manager that could win on the big stage? Howe, Potter, Fat Sam, or is Howard Wilkinson still alive?
Tuchel has won loads of stuff as a top level manager and no living English manager comes anywhere near. I'd much prefer an English manager, but there isn't a good one available.
And at least it's not Klopp!!
 
I'm very surprised by this appointment. He doesn't seem to be a man that will play ball to the FA's rules at all.

But a brilliant appointment, one of the best candidates out there. I don't support the notion that the England manager needs to be English. We've got a lack of coaches and managers at the top level which either means all the work the FA has done is ineffective, or all the people getting involved in football in this country are ineffective. Southgate was in charge for a long time, lots of people have been through the FA coaching courses in that time but not one English manager has stood out in that period.

Eddie Howe hasn't won anything and the jury is out. Similarly Potter has had one top job and didn't impress, and subsequent managers at Brighton suggest his performance there wasn't as exceptional as it first appeared.

Tuchel has won a lot and been successful wherever he's gone. He's well respected by other top managers and the German coaching system has produced some brilliant young managers who are proving themselves across Europe and International football.

And it would be oh so English to finally win something with a German in charge. And Tuchel can certainly handle the racist headlines that will inevitably come his way, along with any ego's within the side that need a slap.
 
Great appointment. Probably the best on paper England could get.

There's no really good English managers out there, maybe Potter. But maybe didn't want it?

I always thought it was made for Pep. If he wants to manage a national team, it would work best for him. I can't see him managing Spain due to his staunch Catalan patriotism. He might do, but would they have him..
 
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