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HelloCity said:
Heard it all before.

People said the exact same when we started not that well the last 4 seasons. This is actually our best start to a season for a while…

The season we won the treble people on here were questioning whether Pep should go as late as February.

Then you get classic threads like this…

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Dullest Football Since Pearce?

Ever since we moved to the double pivot, I have to say this has got to be the dullest City side since the Pearce days. We were obviously worse under Sven and Hughes but there was a far more positive approach to the way we played. This double pivot just sucks the life out of our game, our...
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Thought you'd bring my post up that I've since apologised for and admit I was wrong. You can't let it go though can you, so I'll just say fuck off
 
HelloCity said:
Heard it all before.

People said the exact same when we started not that well the last 4 seasons. This is actually our best start to a season for a while…

The season we won the treble people on here were questioning whether Pep should go as late as February.

Then you get classic threads like this…

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

Dullest Football Since Pearce?

Ever since we moved to the double pivot, I have to say this has got to be the dullest City side since the Pearce days. We were obviously worse under Sven and Hughes but there was a far more positive approach to the way we played. This double pivot just sucks the life out of our game, our...
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Like everyone else, I hope it’s a blip, but today it felt like a passing.

It exposed Gundo, it showed how old some players were, even though they’ve still got the occasional game in them, and it showed how the “modern approach” to the high speed counterattack…WHICH IS HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS PLAYING FOOTBALL NOW…is death to us.

I LITERALLY called for a loss today and even said it would come down our right side and be a cross in behind us. I can’t remember the last time I thought we would lose a game?!

It’s been coming and the injury situation has only exacerbated it. The Spurs game showed how frail we look and Bournemouth no-names went to town on us.

This is structural and strategic, not tactical. Structurally, we have not spent the money on, or the time to cultivate, the players we were clearly going to need to start filling holes that were developing.

You saw them developing, I’m sure, last season, and nothing was done to start addressing those issues. A free Gundo felt like a great little stop gap measure, but he’s currently being asked to be Prime Gundo and he just doesn’t have it in him anymore…and the flashes of it are getting fewer and further in between.

KDB certainly has brilliance in him, but for both club and country, we are seeing it less and less.

Phil Foden clearly has some personal demons/issues he’s trying to get over, because he’s a pale imitation of the POTY we saw last year. He could have won the game today, but his shots were wayward and he needed too many touches at other times.

Kova was always seen as a back up midfielder, yet has become pivotal (no pun intended) to us not being literally over run in every game. I thought he was superb today in a game where we got battered in midfield, so that felt like a big waste!

Bernardo? Love him to death! But, not only did he never have pace, but he’s lost a step, so if you’re a defender you just need to keep him in front of you because he’s going nowhere…yet he’s a WINGER for us, who steps into a second 6 role late in games to shore up the midfield when we take the old, tired fuckers off!

And then we have the likes of Grealish, who divides opinion worse than Trump, but seems to laugh off his own mediocrity. Or Walker, whose domestic woes are only bested by his on field woes, which tells you just how bad his season is going. His contribution to games was always “catch the rabbit that runs in behind” but that’s been laid to rest by multiple players this season, and it is not like his “positional sense” was ever going to get him out of a wet paper bag, let alone a football match where he’s getting toasted. If I see one more push or arse bump or bend when he’s supposed to go up for a ball or ease it out of play, I’ll scream!

So far this season, it’s looking like Gvardiol is our POTY. Think about that and what it says about who we are so far this season…
 
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ancoats said:
It's Crazy that you are not allowed to lose anymore, Toys out of the pram, The blame game,

I hate what we are becoming and I never thought in a million years believe what some people on here write after we don't win, Yes it hurts losing a game of football, But think about all the bad years City fans have had and even the fans back then that have never got to see all of this glory because they have passed over,

I know loads of City fans and mates that have passed over that would have died happy seeing us just win the League Cup again, So when you are feeling shit after a loss, THINK about how dam lucky we all are living and witnessing greatness that this club owners players and managers have giving us over the past 15 years,
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Mate it’s not about the past 12 years or so. I think fans of my generation (I’m 65) recognise how good we are and have been since the sheik took over.

But today’s performance was simply poor. Very poor. We looked slow, wanted it less than the opposition. And it was not about an injury-hit squad. We could’ve lost by a much larger scoreline. 2-1 flattered us and we certainly didn’t deserve an equaliser. That to me and many others, moreso the ones who travelled, felt hard done by. I think mist fans understand it can happen. But they are allowed to moan about it. We lost to Spurs last Wednesday and still many were proud. Not so today.

I do hope the team will reacts the way the normally do. If so this loss might prove to be a positive omen afterall. But lets be real, today was really poor and far from the battling standards we are used to from a Pep team.
 
eversince 76 said:
Mate it’s not about the past 12 years or so. I think fans of my generation (I’m 65) recognise how good we are and have been since the sheik took over.

But today’s performance was simply poor. Very poor. We looked slow, wanted it less than the opposition. And it was not about an injury-hit squad. We could’ve lost by a much larger scoreline. 2-1 flattered us and we certainly didn’t deserve an equaliser. That to me and many others, moreso the ones who travelled, felt hard done by. I think mist fans understand it can happen. But they are allowed to moan about it. We lost to Spurs last Wednesday and still many were proud. Not so today.

I do hope the team will reacts the way the normally do. If so this loss might prove to be a positive omen afterall. But lets be real, today was really poor and far from the battling standards we are used to from a Pep team.
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You aren't allowed to criticice a performance though because of what we've won over recent seasons, you should be congratulating them for running Bournemouth close
 
A lot of people have compared this season to 19/20 - losing such a key player early in the season and being vulnerable thereafter - but I am hopeful it is more like 20/21. If I remember rightly, we were actually indifferent that season and way off the pace until the turn of the year. We then clicked into gear at Stamford Bridge and never looked back.

We do have to remember that the lads are coming off the greatest feat in English football history - winning the biggest prize four times consecutively. We have had lots of players on international duty playing very late into the Copa America and Euros. It all seems to have just caught up with us at the moment. I don't think we can underestimate the loss of Rodri AND De Bruyne at the same time. I do feel we need a midfielder in January and to embrace the arrival of Echeverri.

We need bodies back and players to find form. But you'd be a fool to write off this team. The last ten minutes could have seen us go on to win the game in spite of all of the above and an inspired performance by Bournemouth. We were banging on the door. Lewis and Doku changed the game.

Hang in there, blues. Win the 115, watch Pep extend, watch us buy a cog in the midfield, and watch us motor on in 2025. You wouldn't be surprised, would you?
 
Is there a single thread on here that doesn't mention Trump. Can you fucking cunts with your political fixation just fuck off to Off Topic. Leave the fucking football threads alone please.
 
ancoats said:
It's Crazy that you are not allowed to lose anymore, Toys out of the pram, The blame game,

I hate what we are becoming and I never thought in a million years believe what some people on here write after we don't win, Yes it hurts losing a game of football, But think about all the bad years City fans have had and even the fans back then that have never got to see all of this glory because they have passed over,

I know loads of City fans and mates that have passed over that would have died happy seeing us just win the League Cup again, So when you are feeling shit after a loss, THINK about how dam lucky we all are living and witnessing greatness that this club owners players and managers have giving us over the past 15 years,
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All sounds great….AND?

Yep, it’s BEEN great! Today wasn’t just about today, though, was it?!

Today was the culmination of what’s been coming, and almost happened against Wolves and Southampton and, and…

This team, this season, is not like any of the other teams we have lauded. It’s old, tired, injured and has lost its best player…the Best Player in the World, no less, AND a guy who was Top 10, while the #2 is struggling mightily…but is still trying to plug away with the possession game.

At one point today, we had 75% possession, yet had ZERO attempts on goal and 2 touches inside the opposition box. They had 25% and 8 attempts on target…and 27 touches(?) inside our box!!

Our first shot on target was at 79:20!!!

Today was poor…tactically, structurally, mentally and physically. Had Ederson had an off day, it would have been a cricket score. As it was 2-1 SOUNDS like we took part in a game that even the most casual of observers would say we were only in for 10 mins of normal time and the 6 mins of injury time!

3/4 possession, yet only in the game for less than 1/4 of the time! THAT is what we have become…a toothless tiger.
 
CC1 said:
Not sure where you’re getting these observations from. Mental issues?
After winning consecutive 4 PL titles just after the treble, there are bound to be tired players who take some time to be motivated. I understand that.
Rodri & Bobb’s injuries could NOT be foreseen & no top player would have come knowing they would not get in the team in Rodri’s position. However- the situation is different now IMHO & we SHOULD buy a top replacement in January & it would be up to Rodri to fight for his place.

City fans aren’t known as entitled fans so let’s stop pretending we know what our owners & Pep are thinking
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I think the player that has been mentioned as a target in January, Ricci, could replace Rodri until he returns and could also play with Rodri. He plays defensive midfield for Italy, is quick and can adapt to other midfield roles. He is 23 years old.
 
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We managed to put eleven men in the pitch for the game but it was clear probably only about seven of them were fully fit. As I said after the Southampton game people cant reasonably expect a squad being held togethe4 by bandaids to keep winning.

More concerning to me than our temporary injury issues is our aging squad. Walker looks done, Gundo has no pace, KDB is showing his age and seems to be injured all the time and we have a number of players near or past thirty. We need a major squad refresh as soon as possible.
 
Many poor references could be made about today but Bournemouth were very good
Players looking somewhat bored or burnt out now
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Like everyone else, I hope it’s a blip, but today it felt like a passing.

It exposed Gundo, it showed how old some players were, even though they’ve still got the occasional game in them, and it showed how the “modern approach” to the high speed counterattack…WHICH IS HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS PLAYING FOOTBALL NOW…is death to us.

I LITERALLY called for a loss today and even said it would come down our right side and be a cross in behind us. I can’t remember the last time I thought we would lose a game?!

It’s been coming and the injury situation has only exacerbated it. The Spurs game showed how frail we look and Bournemouth no-names went to town on us.

This is structural and strategic, not tactical. Structurally, we have not spent the money on, or the time to cultivate, the players we were clearly going to need to start filling holes that were developing.

You saw them developing, I’m sure, last season, and nothing was done to start addressing those issues. A free Gundo felt like a great little stop gap measure, but he’s currently being asked to be Prime Gundo and he just doesn’t have it in him anymore…and the flashes of it are getting fewer and further in between.

KDB certainly has brilliance in him, but for both club and country, we are seeing it less and less.

Phil Foden clearly has some personal demons/issues he’s trying to get over, because he’s a pale imitation of the POTY we saw last year. He could have won the game today, but his shots were wayward and he needed too many touches at other times.

Kova was always seen as a back up midfielder, yet has become pivotal (no pun intended) to us not being literally over run in every game. I thought he was superb today in a game where we got battered in midfield, so that felt like a big waste!

Bernardo? Love him to death! But, not only did he never have pace, but he’s lost a step, so if you’re a defender you just need to keep him in front of you because he’s going nowhere…yet he’s a WINGER for us, who steps into a second 6 role late in games to shore up the midfield when we take the old, tired fuckers off!

And then we have the likes of Grealish, who divides opinion worse than Trump, but seems to laugh off his own mediocrity. Or Walker, whose domestic woes are only bested by his on field woes, which tells you just how bad his season is going. His contribution to games was always “catch the rabbit that runs in behind” but that’s been laid to rest by multiple players this season, and it is not like his “positional sense” was ever going to get him out of a wet paper bag, let alone a football match where he’s getting toasted. If I see one more push or arse bump or bend when he’s supposed to go up for a ball or ease it out of play, I’ll scream!

So far this season, it’s looking like Gvardiol is our POTY. Think about that and what it says about who we are so far this season…
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Great post
 
the blue panther said:
Great goal from Gvardiol. Great attacking effort in the last 10 minutes. Great to see Doku come on and make a difference.
Another good show from Nunes, and we nearly got a point after a bad day at the office - and with a lot of luck, we could have won it at the death.
2 points behind the leaders after 10 games, despite barely getting out of 2nd gear so far this season.
Just thought I'd accentuate the positive.
Onwards and upwards blues.
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Exactly, we've all been through this before, we know how it goes, indifferent with the odd raising off our game, by the time the clocks go back Pep will have the team/boys purring and then anythings possible.
If we win fu*k all it won't be for the lack of effort i,m sure.
 
blue by birth said:
Yeah he's got to rectify them fucking injuries eh..
FFS we have players who you can see aren't anything like fully fit..Pep even said earlier that players are playing through the pain barrier.
Once we get players back we will be fine..just got to keep hanging in there until then.
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The players generally seem knackered this season, it's hardly surprising looking at how many games they have played in the last few years, we have lots of injuries, I think this is probably a season we don't win the title, having said that I also thought that last year.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Like everyone else, I hope it’s a blip, but today it felt like a passing.

It exposed Gundo, it showed how old some players were, even though they’ve still got the occasional game in them, and it showed how the “modern approach” to the high speed counterattack…WHICH IS HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS PLAYING FOOTBALL NOW…is death to us.

I LITERALLY called for a loss today and even said it would come down our right side and be a cross in behind us. I can’t remember the last time I thought we would lose a game?!

It’s been coming and the injury situation has only exacerbated it. The Spurs game showed how frail we look and Bournemouth no-names went to town on us.

This is structural and strategic, not tactical. Structurally, we have not spent the money on, or the time to cultivate, the players we were clearly going to need to start filling holes that were developing.

You saw them developing, I’m sure, last season, and nothing was done to start addressing those issues. A free Gundo felt like a great little stop gap measure, but he’s currently being asked to be Prime Gundo and he just doesn’t have it in him anymore…and the flashes of it are getting fewer and further in between.

KDB certainly has brilliance in him, but for both club and country, we are seeing it less and less.

Phil Foden clearly has some personal demons/issues he’s trying to get over, because he’s a pale imitation of the POTY we saw last year. He could have won the game today, but his shots were wayward and he needed too many touches at other times.

Kova was always seen as a back up midfielder, yet has become pivotal (no pun intended) to us not being literally over run in every game. I thought he was superb today in a game where we got battered in midfield, so that felt like a big waste!

Bernardo? Love him to death! But, not only did he never have pace, but he’s lost a step, so if you’re a defender you just need to keep him in front of you because he’s going nowhere…yet he’s a WINGER for us, who steps into a second 6 role late in games to shore up the midfield when we take the old, tired fuckers off!

And then we have the likes of Grealish, who divides opinion worse than Trump, but seems to laugh off his own mediocrity. Or Walker, whose domestic woes are only bested by his on field woes, which tells you just how bad his season is going. His contribution to games was always “catch the rabbit that runs in behind” but that’s been laid to rest by multiple players this season, and it is not like his “positional sense” was ever going to get him out of a wet paper bag, let alone a football match where he’s getting toasted. If I see one more push or arse bump or bend when he’s supposed to go up for a ball or ease it out of play, I’ll scream!

So far this season, it’s looking like Gvardiol is our POTY. Think about that and what it says about who we are so far this season…
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Nailed it.
 
callumcity said:
I think you’re all overreacting. Upcoming international break will do us some good.

I don’t know what people expect pep to do with such an injury hit and evidently knackered tiny squad, it’s unprecedented in his time here.

It’s a long season, calm down.
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This is a strange season. We have not played well but neither have Arsenal or Liverpool. It could be like the year Leicester won it with someone coming out of the pack. A lot of players look knackered not just City. Also some of the mid table teams look stronger and may take points of the top three. Chelsea look the freshest team in terms of fitness.
 
Bellamy's Caddy said:
This defeat has really shown how entitled some of our fanbase has become. I know Twitter is a cesspit at the best of times, but some of the posts I've seen from people who really should know better was eye opening.

There's plenty of City fans who remember the days where us losing twice in a week was a regular occurance, not major news.

We've had horrendous luck with injuries and we're attempting to retain the title for an unprecedented 5th time, having already won a historic 4 premier league titles in a row. The run won't go on forever, and hopefully this season won't be the one where it ends, but sadly the entitlement we see from the Red Cartel fans is on full display from plenty of City fans tonight.
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Agreed. We are in transition. I would be delighted with any trophy this season. If we don’t get one so be it. City is a life sentence with no parole.
 
Not the best match in the world, but to honest I think a loss has been coming and after getting out of the wolves and fulham matches with all 6 points, it's not really the end of the world losing one now.

Nunes MOTM.

Gundo really needs a rest/break at this point, the point of bringing in him again was surely not to play him this much. A new CDM/CM is a MUST in the january market if we want to win anything this year imo.

Also wanted to add that I felt we got a lot better in the game when foden started to drop a little deeper to control the game a bit more.
 
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