US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[Keeper!]

Twatter is a cesspit at the best of times but my word what is going to go down on there in the coming months?

 

[The blue phantom]

Trump will have more power now with both the senate and the house being Republican.

And the Supreme Court too. He can control and shape absolutely anything he wants. Those Senators and Congress folk will bend the knee like never before

Frightening times, But this is what the American folk have voted for.

 

[BimboBob]

Lots of glib bullshit being posted, but I can tell that every woman I know is aghast at the Handmaid’s Tale future they face, and the white men are thinking “Oh great! Everyone’s going to be looking at me like I did this!”

As someone who flies overseas for a living, mainly to Europe, I’m fucking embarrassed to be associated with the tens of millions of uneducated and confused white males who elected this empty fuck.

A product of your own making unfortunately.

Historically the uneducated male, black and white, worked in lumbering factories but a lack of control in foreign imports led to millions of job loses creating a confused and jobless society. A society that refuses to look after their poor. A society that forces women into draconian measures. A society that charges for health care leading to debt or a sick workforce. A society that frowns on people taking their full allocation of holidays. A society that, although values the American dream, has seen successive governments rip it apart.

In their eyes, Trump was their saviour in his first stint. They mistrust the government that came in after. They think he's been hounded by the courts. He's the little guy fighting the mainstream. That's his rhetoric and it struck a chord the first time out and it's doing it again.

America is not the land of the free. It is a land beset by rules and regulations, taxes and worst of all, God.

Don't get me wrong, I love visiting America. I love the different states. I love the rural and big city life. I love the people for the most part. Some of my happiest times have been spent in the States. But a lot of people live in a bubble. A bubble of their governments making. And Trump is seen as a way of bursting it.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I think blaming the Dems misses the point.

Americans have looked at a fascist bully and liked what they've seen. Better to face that reality than cast around for blame.

Of course you can blame the democrats. They have been the ones pushing policies which, it seems, are unpopular with a majority of the electorate. You can applaud their morality, but he amazed at the naivety.

Chin up, mate. The sun will shine again.

Out of Trump's arse unfortunately.

 

[Don Karleone]

Fuck the lot of em

 

[The blue phantom]

Wonder how Biden would have fared, didn't see anyone predicting the popular vote to go to Trump but he has smashed it was over 3/1 for that to happen.

Would of been an even bigger Trump win mate, Of that there's no doubt.

 

[halfcenturyup]

And the Supreme Court too. He can control and shape absolutely anything he wants. Those Senators and Congress folk will bend the knee like never before

Frightening times, But this is what the American folk have voted for.

Luckily the institutions and the constitution are strong enough to deal with it. Apparently.

 

[The blue phantom]

Fuck the lot of em

Lammy is an absolute shithouse.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Trump & Farage, the future.

Beautiful.

 

[Gray]

As a matter of interest what do those of you domiciled in the USA think of the voting system?

 

[halfcenturyup]

It already is.

Ah, the good old days when we thought Bush was a dangerous idiot.

 

[Scottyboi]

Fuck the lot of em

Embarrassing isn't it, but what can he do? If you're a politician don't make statements that will come back to humiliate you in the future.

 

[The blue phantom]

Wait until Trump tells Starmer he wants Farage as the Ambassador.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Embarrassing isn't it, but what can he do? If you're a politician don't make statements that will come back to humiliate you in the future.

Labour seem pretty good at that.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Thanks Sadd.

But I think I’m done here. Footy and music don’t seem that important suddenly. I won’t sleep tonight.

I deleted my Twitter account already and as much as I like it here, and other places, I have more important things to focus on. Like making sure my kid and his partner are okay and safe (rather an activist, that one) and moving some money around as I expect some serious volatility will roil the markets.

I still think it’s a six-standard deviation event that he destroys the nation’s democracy but protection from the possibility is now an important and necessary hedge — especially if the GOP takes the House. My family’s safety and financial well-being is too important.

As I said — before when he had another term to think about and at least some experienced people to rein him in, I knew it would suck, but I didn’t worry. Now? All bets are off. No one competent will work with him and anyone who tries will not control him. I’ve no idea how serious his inflammatory rhetoric is, because he’s a constant liar. I still cannot believe after everything — especially January 6 — this man wins the popular vote. It’s almost not even real.

But what this means for both the next four years and the future — the possibility set is far wider than it was, and includes some awful potential futures.

Best to protect against that chance.

Take care, matey.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

As a matter of interest what do those of you domiciled in the USA think of the voting system?

Likely doesn’t matter as there probably won’t be one anymore!

 

[moomba]

Embarrassing isn't it, but what can he do? If you're a politician don't make statements that will come back to humiliate you in the future.

He may as well stick to his real thoughts. Trump won't forgive.

 

[fulabeer]

Home grown simply don't want to do those "medial" jobs sadly, that's the same the world over.

Then those jobs need to pay more. The problem isn't getting people to do the jobs, it's other people's perception how much a job should pay. People have been programmed to think unskilled jobs shouldn't pay as much as skilled jobs.

The change is already happening. Jobs that involve heavy labour are attracting higher wages. Brickies now earn more than the site managers for example. Labourers now want a minimum of £180 a day, many are on way higher.
Look at bin men. Was the lowest paid job. They have to pay bigger wages to get/retain the staff.

Carers get paid minimum wage. It can be one of the hardest jobs out there. So why it is paid so low?
Because people think it should be paid low because anybody can do it. Nobody thinks, "hey it's bloody hard work and mentally tiring so should pay well".
If the pay rises, more people will be interested in doing it. Getting somebody desperate from abroad, doesn't fix the problem. It just continues it.

 

[give it to gordon]

Think I'll bring my next year's holiday forward....

 

[MCFC1993]

Fuck the lot of em

Got to hope the internal views are different and we're plotting a sustainable future for ourselves.

Hopefully a wake up call to more moderate government's that you have to be decisive before the lunatics get a chance to get in.