US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[johnny crossan]

Hard to know what to think let alone say about this. Many unhappy Americans want easy answers and he says he has them. Now we get to live with tbe consequences.

 

[Dax777]

Economy. Israel. Biden all had an impact.

She was battling against someone that slagged her off daily and people believed a lot of what he said.

Economy for sure. Biden choosing to run, causing Democrats not run a real primary didn't help. Immigration was a disaster.


But above all Kamala Harris was simply a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. She is as bad of a public speaker as I've ever seen on the national stage

They both called each other names. That was a wash. She simply couldn't connect with people who weren't already anti-Trump.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Will the republicans have control of all 3 branches in January?

Yes

 

[moomba]

We had three threads on here that were all just basically outpourings of hate/rage/ fear about trump and anyone questioning Kamala's suitability, popularity or likelihood of winning was pretty much abused. Mostly by the characters that have now largely slunk off after weeks throwing their treasured opinions around like facts.

Overdramatised version of the truth where the poor silent Trumpists sat back cowed into silence against the mean pro Harris crowd.

All bollocks of course, and has nothing to do with my post that you replied to.

That was to simply to say that the accusations I've been seeing all day that Harris did or said nothing but criticise Trump weren't true.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

The Georgia result is crazy. 100 thousand plus votes ahead. Biden won that one last time by about 12,000 votes

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

I think it’s a few things -
1) The country is further right than many of us would like it to be and those people are voting on emotion not specific policy
2) The radicalization of young white men
3) Social media’s (and media in general) sowing of discontent and misery and Dem’s inability to understand or control it

And most importantly -
4) an electorate that is unhappy with the incumbent

Disagree with #1.. all you have to look at is the numbers..

Trump got less votes than 2020 (some of his base aged out but he found young men to carry his torch)

What really killed the dems is losing 15 million people that voted for Biden and had very high hopes for him. I mean 81 million vs 66 million.. that's the election right there.

Why did they not vote for her?

 

[AliBobbyJ]

Trump would beat her aswell. One round of rallies and the whole Internet is calling her big Mike. They needed a sharp, intelligent charismatic young MALE to go up against him. The American population has proven twice they will elect literally the most unsuitable candidate possible over a woman.

gotta be Pete Buttigieg, innit?

Innit?

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Economy for sure. Biden choosing to run, causing Democrats not run a real primary didn't help. Immigration was a disaster.


But above all Kamala Harris was simply a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. She is as bad of a public speaker as I've ever seen on the national stage

They both called each other names. That was a wash. She simply couldn't connect with people who weren't already anti-Trump.

I’m starting to think Harris might have been a worse choice than Clinton. As you say she’s a terrible public speaker and she’s robotic - she couldn’t connect with anyone, other than basically Hollywood.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

I think it’s a few things -
1) The country is further right than many of us would like it to be and those people are voting on emotion not specific policy
2) The radicalization of young white men
3) Social media’s (and media in general) sowing of discontent and misery and Dem’s inability to understand or control it

And most importantly -
4) an electorate that is unhappy with the incumbent

Good post, I think it's as simple as a lot of people being massively disillusioned with the establishment and mainstream media and rightly or wrongly the media's demonisation of Trump has actually had the opposite effect. People think they are sticking it to the man by voting for Trump.

Also the last 4 years have been fucking shite for everybody and many people may just think I was better off when Donald was in the big house.

 

[Phil1]

Overdramatised version of the truth where the poor silent Trumpists sat back cowed into silence against the mean pro Harris crowd.

All bollocks of course, and has nothing to do with my post that you replied to.

That was to simply to say that the accusations I've been seeing all day that Harris did or said nothing but criticise Trump weren't true.

He will be buzzing from this result because he doesn’t give a fuck about the realities of a Trump presidency, just being a smug **** on the internet.

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[Tb1981]

Yeah, that's the thing. Scotus didn't give the President any far ranging powers.

That said, it's funny that the very people who were whaling about the excessive power of the Presidency are now clamouring for Biden to use those exact powers.

Interesting!

its the fact they cant even see the irony of it
Do as we say not as we do

 

[super_city_si]

CNN
Harris Campaign: Biden will hold a lot of blame for this loss...

I think thats fair. She's culpable too obviously, lets be fair, but Biden should have stuck to his word and not ran again. The result might not have been different but at least there would have been a process to elect a candidate and not only have kamala because she can use the campaign funds. He shafted the Democrats and she finished the job.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Disagree with #1.. all you have to look at is the numbers..

Trump got less votes than 2020 (some of his base aged out but he found young men to carry his torch)

What really killed the dems is losing 15 million people that voted for Biden and had very high hopes for him. I mean 81 million vs 66 million.. that's the election right there.

Why did they not vote for her?

Her, that’s why, if it was a bloke then they might have had a better night, and I mean a bloke who knows where the fuck he is.

 

[sir baconface]

Is there provision within the constitution for states to secede from the union?
Can see places like California (plus the west coast states) and New York (plus the rest of New England) thinking fuck this after a year or two because it’s the large Dem states that will be paying for Trump’s shit show, and they might decide they’re better alone.

Not before Surrey has seceded from Starmer’s Britain.

 

[moomba]

Economy for sure. Biden choosing to run, causing Democrats not run a real primary didn't help. Immigration was a disaster.

Not much they could do about the primary.

But above all Kamala Harris was simply a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. She is as bad of a public speaker as I've ever seen on the national stage

Agree to disagree. She was fine, and judged by a different standard to her opponent.

They both called each other names. That was a wash. She simply couldn't connect with people who weren't already anti-Trump.

Not even close to being a wash. Trump called her stupid daily, there wasn't a rally where he didn't call her incompetent or corrupt or evil. He questioned her race, he laughed at jokes about her working on a street corner. He said that he would like to see her in a ring with Mike Tyson.

She was asked if she agreed with a characterisation of Trump by his former chief of staff. She said yes.

A wash. With all due respect you can fuck off with that.

 

[eyalluvitt]

Didn't his Vice President çall him Hitler. Also I Judge stated this.
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A black democrat NY judge, hardly impartial

 

[super_city_si]

I think it’s a few things -
1) The country is further right than many of us would like it to be and those people are voting on emotion not specific policy
2) The radicalization of young white men
3) Social media’s (and media in general) sowing of discontent and misery and Dem’s inability to understand or control it

And most importantly -
4) an electorate that is unhappy with the incumbent

Good post. I think point #3 is very salient. Musks twitter was a cesspool of disinformation

 

[Dax777]

I am watching CNN now and they are missing the point all over again.

What a shame

 

[BlueAnorak]

I swear they lose these elections on purpose. A golden retriever would beat Trump. Heck a fucking senile old man beat him easily. They managed to select 2 massively dislikable strict headteacher type women as the candidate. Twice! They deserve everything they get since they fucked over Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primaries.

Bernie Sanders was equally unelectable.
Actually more so.