The Title Race - 2024/25

How many points to win the league?

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M23 Citizen said:
We’ve not been that low in the table after 11 games since Pellegrini when we were 8th with 19points in 2013-14 and Hughes when we were 10th with 13points in 2008-09.

After match 11, under Pep:

2016-17 - 3rd 24points
2017-18 - 1st 31points
2018-19 - 1st 29points
2019-20 - 2nd 25points
2020-11 - 5th 21points
2021-22 - 2nd 23points
2022-23 - 2nd 26points
2023-24 - 1st 27points
2024-25 - 2nd 23points

Average position, 2.11. Average points, 25.44.
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That sounds wonderful.
I feel so much better.
All we're missing are uninjured players a manager, form, 115 charges outcome and elite recruitment.
Champions again!
 
This year the prem feels it has the competitiveness of the championship as there is 4 points separating 3rd - 13th. Everyone’s taking points off each other & dropping points.

Anyway only a fool would bet on anyone but City, the best team in the land & all the world!
 
manimanc said:
I know but this season seems double different :)
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Isn't it crazy that we have, an injury crisis, ageing midfield, small squad, 150m net profit with only one new signing, uncertainty around a manager, changes to the structure higher up, distractions around the ATP case, unknowns over the 115 and the circus with that, fatigue from multiple games and 7 trophies in two years, a jinx in Oasis reuniting, competition in an excellent and hungry Liverpool and Arsenal...

And yet.. you still wouldn't rule us out to win it and other trophies this season.

Isn't that just amazing? What a time to be a blue.
 
5pts isn't insurmountable and there will be a time when the dippers struggle, I'm sure of it.

We've been hit hard by injuries and fatigue. We're in games but the balance isn't right without Rodri and the players and running on fumes. It's going to be really tough to win it without the best player in the world, but we have a chance.

Going back to back was tough. Going three in a row whilst winning the treble was ridiculous and even then we didn't drop mentality we went and won it for a fourth time.

The players will stay hungry and fight to retain it, but if we fail to then it's no huge drama. Rodri will return, we'll invest in the squad and we'll be back.
 
M23 Citizen said:
We’ve not been that low in the table after 11 games since Pellegrini when we were 8th with 19points in 2013-14 and Hughes when we were 10th with 13points in 2008-09.

After match 11, under Pep:

2016-17 - 3rd 24points
2017-18 - 1st 31points
2018-19 - 1st 29points
2019-20 - 2nd 25points
2020-21 - 5th 21points
2021-22 - 2nd 23points
2022-23 - 2nd 26points
2023-24 - 1st 27points
2024-25 - 2nd 23points

Average position, 2.11. Average points, 25.44.
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Yeah, but apart from that.
 
blueste41 said:
Gulp, worse than we thought blues!
Wonder who he supports?

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It might be 10am Monday morning, but I’d like what Tim (09:54) is drinking. City won’t finish top 4? Outrageous claim.
Zak
Comments like Tim @ 9:54 are why a lot of people will be happy to see Liverpool falter. Less than a third of the season gone, the side off to the best start are ahead, albeit on the back of favourable fixtures. It's a marathon not a sprint.
James
Wow Tim at 9.54. I'm a Liverpool fan but a bit more balanced. We've had an easy opening run of games whilst Arsenal's have been tough and we all know City often struggle in the Autumn before winning virtually every game from January onwards. I fear it will be close at the top by Christmas.
Tim (more balanced), Kent
To write City off for being just five points off Liverpool in November and to suggest they are miles off is quite possibly the most absurd opinion I’ve literally ever heard voiced about sport.
Matt, Worcester Park
 
Really_here said:
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It might be 10am Monday morning, but I’d like what Tim (09:54) is drinking. City won’t finish top 4? Outrageous claim.
Zak
Comments like Tim @ 9:54 are why a lot of people will be happy to see Liverpool falter. Less than a third of the season gone, the side off to the best start are ahead, albeit on the back of favourable fixtures. It's a marathon not a sprint.
James
Wow Tim at 9.54. I'm a Liverpool fan but a bit more balanced. We've had an easy opening run of games whilst Arsenal's have been tough and we all know City often struggle in the Autumn before winning virtually every game from January onwards. I fear it will be close at the top by Christmas.
Tim (more balanced), Kent
To write City off for being just five points off Liverpool in November and to suggest they are miles off is quite possibly the most absurd opinion I’ve literally ever heard voiced about sport.
Matt, Worcester Park
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I suspect most Liverpool fans would take 1 pt ahead and 2 or 3 to play now if you offered it to them. They are very reliant on 2 or 3 players. Salah won't keep this up all season.
 
supercity88 said:
5pts isn't insurmountable and there will be a time when the dippers struggle, I'm sure of it.

We've been hit hard by injuries and fatigue. We're in games but the balance isn't right without Rodri and the players and running on fumes. It's going to be really tough to win it without the best player in the world, but we have a chance.

Going back to back was tough. Going three in a row whilst winning the treble was ridiculous and even then we didn't drop mentality we went and won it for a fourth time.

The players will stay hungry and fight to retain it, but if we fail to then it's no huge drama. Rodri will return, we'll invest in the squad and we'll be back.
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This is how I see it.

I want to win everything, but the fact of the matter there will be a season where we don't. The league is too competitive and you can't always refresh a squad perfectly. Every signing needs to be absolutely bang on. Sometimes you need to take a step back to take two forward (as we did in 19/20).

Think there's plenty of opportunity for us to get the team back together and kick on around Christmas, so I'm not writing anything off, but there's no hard feelings from me if we don't

7 leagues in 10, including two trebles, is tracking way above what I think are reasonable expectations given there are at least 4 clubs that can match us financially and that the league has the pick of managers and players from all over the world.

The most important thing for me, if this is going to be a weaker season, is that we get our next moves right.
 
Strangely, the things that are totally out of our control, such as other teams results, inconsistency and attitudes, are all working in our favour and keeping me relatively optimistic.
Arsenal look burdened by their own expectations, Villa are struggling to cope with so many high profile fixtures, Chelsea are vastly improved, but still conceding silly goals, and Tottenham are doing what Tottenham always do.

However, we can't let it slip any further. We need Foden and De Bruyne to start performing, our wingers to start scoring goals, and our defenders back to full fitness.
Otherwise we'll be relying on Liverpool to drop more silly points than us.
 
Martin O'Neil, remember him? putting his view out there about Pep's contact situation and surprise surprise BBC think its worthy of the top item in their sport headlines on FiveLive not like them to jump on something negative about City and it rolls on to the positive news from the rags and their 6th manager since Pep arrived
 
Coatigan said:
Isn't it crazy that we have, an injury crisis, ageing midfield, small squad, 150m net profit with only one new signing, uncertainty around a manager, changes to the structure higher up, distractions around the ATP case, unknowns over the 115 and the circus with that, fatigue from multiple games and 7 trophies in two years, a jinx in Oasis reuniting, competition in an excellent and hungry Liverpool and Arsenal...

And yet.. you still wouldn't rule us out to win it and other trophies this season.

Isn't that just amazing? What a time to be a blue.
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Ha ha nicely put.
 
Gordyola said:
Martin O'Neil, remember him? putting his view out there about Pep's contact situation and surprise surprise BBC think its worthy of the top item in their sport headlines on FiveLive not like them to jump on something negative about City and it rolls on to the positive news from the rags and their 6th manager since Pep arrived
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I remember the six anonymous months he spend at Maine Road in the early '80s.
 
Coatigan said:
Isn't it crazy that we have, an injury crisis, ageing midfield, small squad, 150m net profit with only one new signing, uncertainty around a manager, changes to the structure higher up, distractions around the ATP case, unknowns over the 115 and the circus with that, fatigue from multiple games and 7 trophies in two years, a jinx in Oasis reuniting, competition in an excellent and hungry Liverpool and Arsenal...

And yet.. you still wouldn't rule us out to win it and other trophies this season.

Isn't that just amazing? What a time to be a blue.
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Great line of thinking. Some perspective and almost a proof for a positive approach in world of judgments.
 
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