Priced out? | Club announce that matchday tickets being reduced by up to 43% (p93)

[Eccles Blue]

There have been documentaries made on how the music industry rips the public off.

Plus it’s not just City fans moaning about City, it’s all fans moaning about all clubs and we are uniting over it. City are just 1/20 of the problem but our club is a problem. Wednesday night’s pathetic attendance showed that. Kids all over this city have never set foot inside the Etihad despite being massive Blues. That’s fucking wrong, if you think it isn’t you’re just part of the problem.

No City are not just 1/20th of the problem, there are many more leagues than the Premier League (or whatever it is called this week) the lower leagues will find the prices filtering down(Up) in the coming months and years so let's not be elitist let's also remember the lower leagues and the money it costs them. How many have gone out of business?

Sorry, not getting at anyone just trying to expand the thoughts because football is our national sport (in my mind) and we don't want it taken over by the elite and therefore ruining the lower leagues. :-)

 

[paulchapo]

Listen, you were the one who went in personal off the bat, so don't complain just because I gave some back. Then you resort to name calling. That says more about you than me tbh.

I have an opinion, you have an opinion, I think mine is right, you don't. That's fine.

Nobody attacked you precious. I read your post and it was full of sanctimonious crap, so I pointed out that attitudes like yours are part of the problem why fans are getting fleeced but you are too blind to see it. I was right.This is just one small part of your post.

"Life is about priorities, one of my priorities is my beloved club, so if I need to make some financial sacrifices to watch them, so be it."

So what happens when you've made all the sacrifices, cut all the corners but the club raise the prices yet again? Do you then cut your food bill down, turn off your heating for a few more hours, don't buy a new pair of much needed shoes? If you do, will you then be able to afford the latest price increase? If so well done, you can continue going to the game. You're now at your absolute limit financially though with no wriggle room whatsoever. Then the club announce yet another price increase. Now you're fucked. Do you see it now? That's the reality a lot of our loyal fanbase are facing right now and the reason many who used to go in the past no longer attend.

Average prices are now £60-80. If I didn't have a season ticket I wouldn't pay it out of principle. Loyalty goes both ways and at the moment it's all one way. Having a successful football team is no good if you can't afford to go and watch them.

Oh and you're still a cock.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Most people I know who moan about ticket prices are the same ones who will then happily go out and blow 150 quid on a pair of trainers, or 100 quid on a night down the pub, or pay sky 120 quid a month to watch rag and dipper ex players slate city.

Let's put this into perspective, if you were putting on a show or a concert and had to spend £100m's on sourcing and paying those starring in the show, would you then only charge the audience £20-30 to watch it? I suspect not. Most big music concerts cost way more than an average ticket at city and yet people pay for, and go to those without much complaint.

Life is about priorities, one of my priorities is my beloved club, so if I need to make some financial sacrifices to watch them, so be it.

It riles me that our fans are moaning at our club about this. In terms of return on investment, we are the best rewarded fans on the planet in the last decade or so.

City are simply a product of the foundations laid by the red cartel, other historically greedy clubs, the PL, UEFA and FIFA. They created a system where to be successful you have to generate lots and lots of revenue. Our owners have added as much as they can, but got branded cheats for doing so. The only way to remain successful is to generate as much income from everywhere possible, including match day sales.

Protesting against the club just doesn't seem right. Yes, protest against the PL or other governing bodies, but why blame our own club for something much bigger than them.

The irony is, many of those who do go and spend their money on a game (and then complain about it) sit there in silence and don't support the club anyway, then blame the atmosphere on tourist fans.

The club don't need any of this shit right now, they have battles on and off the pitch to fight, without their own fans turning on them.

Thanks Ferran. You should post on here more often.

People like you are why football fans will continue to be fleeced. Fortunately more and more are starting to realise they're being taken for granted. Do you think people like Soriano sit there and say to themselves "Times are hard in the real world. Inflation is up. Our fans have to shell out for a lot of games these days, particularly those that follow us home and away. You know what? I'll freeze or even reduce some prices to help them out a bit".

I can tell you there are people at City who look at spreadsheets and work out how they can increase revenue per customer year-on-year. In just over 6 months time we'll be playing in the Club World Cup. That alone will bring in at least as much revenue as the tickets we sold this season (which will be £80m maximum).

Get your head out of your arse because, before long, it'll be you saying you're priced out.

 

[paulchapo]

Thanks Ferran. You should post on here more often.

People like you are why football fans will continue to be fleeced. Fortunately more and more are starting to realise they're being taken for granted. Do you think people like Soriano sit there and say to themselves "Times are hard in the real world. Inflation is up. Our fans have to shell out for a lot of games these days, particularly those that follow us home and away. You know what? I'll freeze or even reduce some prices to help them out a bit".

I can tell you there are people at City who look at spreadsheets and work out how they can increase revenue per customer year-on-year. In just over 6 months time we'll be playing in the Club World Cup. That alone will bring in at least as much revenue as the tickets we sold this season (which will be £80m maximum).

Get your head out of your arse because, before long, it'll be you saying you're priced out.

As I said to him Colin he's too blind to see it. I was actually quite kind to him in that initial reply, even though he took it as an attack. We have a few amongst our fanbase with a similar attitude and these price increase discussions always draws them out. "I'm alright Jack, if you can't afford it don't go." Or "Cut out a night at the pub a week then" or some other smug claptrap. One day it will be them priced out and nobody will be left to give a fuck.

 

[M18CTID]

Most people I know who moan about ticket prices are the same ones who will then happily go out and blow 150 quid on a pair of trainers, or 100 quid on a night down the pub, or pay sky 120 quid a month to watch rag and dipper ex players slate city.

Let's put this into perspective, if you were putting on a show or a concert and had to spend £100m's on sourcing and paying those starring in the show, would you then only charge the audience £20-30 to watch it? I suspect not. Most big music concerts cost way more than an average ticket at city and yet people pay for, and go to those without much complaint.

Life is about priorities, one of my priorities is my beloved club, so if I need to make some financial sacrifices to watch them, so be it.

It riles me that our fans are moaning at our club about this. In terms of return on investment, we are the best rewarded fans on the planet in the last decade or so.

City are simply a product of the foundations laid by the red cartel, other historically greedy clubs, the PL, UEFA and FIFA. They created a system where to be successful you have to generate lots and lots of revenue. Our owners have added as much as they can, but got branded cheats for doing so. The only way to remain successful is to generate as much income from everywhere possible, including match day sales.

Protesting against the club just doesn't seem right. Yes, protest against the PL or other governing bodies, but why blame our own club for something much bigger than them.

The irony is, many of those who do go and spend their money on a game (and then complain about it) sit there in silence and don't support the club anyway, then blame the atmosphere on tourist fans.

The club don't need any of this shit right now, they have battles on and off the pitch to fight, without their own fans turning on them.

You're entitled to your opinion but your trainers analogy is complete and utter horseshit. Regular match-going fans attend 20, 30, 40, or more games a season. People don't go out and buy 20+ pairs of trainers every year FFS.

You're also falling into the trap of blaming the Cartel cunts for City increasing their ticket prices. That's a separate issue altogether. It's a total red herring. Given that ticket revenue only accounts for 10%-15% of the overall revenue of the club AND we've recently been posting record profits that dwarf the extra money ticket price increases have brought in, there's absolutely no need to keep increasing ticket prices. That argument would be the equivalent to United blaming their decision to scrap concessionary ticket prices for their members on the mounting legal fees for all the cases the Premier League have been involved in - in particular the one against us - where the costs will ultimately be shared between the member clubs, when in fact that's utter bullshit and what they're doing is just an exercise in monetising fans further even though there is no need to.

I'll also add that City aren't just exploiting the loyalty of the fans. They've also been exploiting Pep and the success we've had under him, taking that success for granted, and have been hiking up ticket prices even more as a result of that. Well, as we all know Pep won't be here forever and as we're seeing at the moment, as much as I love the bloke, success under Pep isn't always guaranteed and if we go on to have an ultimately iffy season, the club are going to have to seriously look at ticket prices with the new stand coming online next season.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

No City are not just 1/20th of the problem, there are many more leagues than the Premier League (or whatever it is called this week) the lower leagues will find the prices filtering down(Up) in the coming months and years so let's not be elitist let's also remember the lower leagues and the money it costs them. How many have gone out of business?

Sorry, not getting at anyone just trying to expand the thoughts because football is our national sport (in my mind) and we don't want it taken over by the elite and therefore ruining the lower leagues. :-)

Especially as we will be in one of the lower leagues shortly....

 

[Really_here]

No City are not just 1/20th of the problem, there are many more leagues than the Premier League (or whatever it is called this week) the lower leagues will find the prices filtering down(Up) in the coming months and years so let's not be elitist let's also remember the lower leagues and the money it costs them. How many have gone out of business?

Sorry, not getting at anyone just trying to expand the thoughts because football is our national sport (in my mind) and we don't want it taken over by the elite and therefore ruining the lower leagues. :-)

It was taken over by the elite years ago, you must have noticed.

 

[SWPISHOME]

Well, if a substantial amount of season ticket holders didn't attend the game, that would have a pretty big impact on the overall attendance, those tickets can't be snapped up.

Are they prepared to be out of pocket, Sell the ticket back to the club or sell it to a friend or family ect.

It's all a complete shit show what's happening, Very hard to put a finger on exactly the best thing to do to try and put a stop to ticket inflation.

If it is a case of a protest, People have to stick together it's either all or nothing which I just can't see happening unfortunately.

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

If I didn't have a season ticket no way would I pay these prices. 74 quid for the cheapest ticket for Everton and then 47 for kids. Absolutely fucking never! I'm a normal working class fan, I earn far more than a living wage but by no means on big money, yet I couldn't afford that, so how the fuck are the people on low wages in the surrounding areas going to be able to afford it ? We are sleep walking into a huge problem in alienating our core working class support in place of the new fans with the dollar, but who'll down tools the moment the bad times start.. then they'll be stands empty let alone a few seats. :(

 

[smevchenko]

Are they prepared to be out of pocket, Sell the ticket back to the club or sell it to a friend or family ect.

It's all a complete shit show what's happening, Very hard to put a finger on exactly the best thing to do to try and put a stop to ticket inflation.

If it is a case of a protest, People have to stick together it's either all or nothing which I just can't see happening unfortunately.

Well yeah, large scale boycotts will require a vast amount of season ticket holders to 'lose' the cost of a game by not attending, and obviously that is a decision many will not want to take. But even large protests before or during the games will have much less of an impact then empty seats during a globally televised game that broadcasters are paying billions for.

So, as ever, ticket prices will increase, options for families will reduce, and more corporate/hospitality tickets made available.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

35 Adults
15 Kids

Get another sponsor(s) to make the difference. call em the 'Fans Partners Company(s)' or something.

 

[BlueBlood84]

Circumstances made me give up the season card a few years back (mistake on my part with hindsight) did well enough getting to a lot of games with matchday membership for a while. Struggled to get tickets from last season onwards (despite paying 35 quid for the privilege) and when I do get the chance at tickets I find it hard to justify the price and dont have as much fear of missing out as I had when I was younger. I do Have a blast at the few games I stoll get to though. Season tickets are still great value but match by match not so much.

 

[paulchapo]

Well yeah, large scale boycotts will require a vast amount of season ticket holders to 'lose' the cost of a game by not attending, and obviously that is a decision many will not want to take. But even large protests before or during the games will have much less of an impact then empty seats during a globally televised game that broadcasters are paying billions for.

So, as ever, ticket prices will increase, options for families will reduce, and more corporate/hospitality tickets made available.

Okay, stay on the concourse for 15 minutes at the start of a chosen live game. Not too much of a hardship for the majority of our fans anyway who seem reluctant to leave the concourse and their pint at the best of times.

 

[smevchenko]

Okay, stay on the concourse for 15 minutes at the start of a chosen live game. Not too much of a hardship for the majority of our fans anyway who seem reluctant to leave the concourse and their pint at the best of times.

And then the inevitable....

'They were protesting? Just looked like a normal game at the Emptyhad!'

 

[give it to gordon]

Most people I know who moan about ticket prices are the same ones who will then happily go out and blow 150 quid on a pair of trainers, or 100 quid on a night down the pub, or pay sky 120 quid a month to watch rag and dipper ex players slate city.

Let's put this into perspective, if you were putting on a show or a concert and had to spend £100m's on sourcing and paying those starring in the show, would you then only charge the audience £20-30 to watch it? I suspect not. Most big music concerts cost way more than an average ticket at city and yet people pay for, and go to those without much complaint.

Life is about priorities, one of my priorities is my beloved club, so if I need to make some financial sacrifices to watch them, so be it.

It riles me that our fans are moaning at our club about this. In terms of return on investment, we are the best rewarded fans on the planet in the last decade or so.

City are simply a product of the foundations laid by the red cartel, other historically greedy clubs, the PL, UEFA and FIFA. They created a system where to be successful you have to generate lots and lots of revenue. Our owners have added as much as they can, but got branded cheats for doing so. The only way to remain successful is to generate as much income from everywhere possible, including match day sales.

Protesting against the club just doesn't seem right. Yes, protest against the PL or other governing bodies, but why blame our own club for something much bigger than them.

The irony is, many of those who do go and spend their money on a game (and then complain about it) sit there in silence and don't support the club anyway, then blame the atmosphere on tourist fans.

The club don't need any of this shit right now, they have battles on and off the pitch to fight, without their own fans turning on them.

Huge difference in a night out or music concert etc.

I don't go on a night out 20 times a year.
I don't go to a music concert 20 times a year.
20 games at 70quid = 1400quid !

Bit of a difference that between few nights out at about 200quid and my last music gig 100quid.
So my nights out and gigs over the last few years is around 300 quid.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I dont know if anyone has noticed, but they have already stolen our game, monetized it, priced out the trouble makers, and are now heading towards a consumer utopia where its like going to the cinema where we can be trapped and tricked into spending our money ONLY with them.

 

[blue by birth]

I'm quite lucky because I have a season ticket and am also a pensioner but I think the match day prices of tickets are fucking scandalous.
It's absolutely crazy to be charging over £70 for adults and £40 plus for kids..most of our fan base are just normal everyday working class people who don't have an infinite pot of money.
I wouldn't pay £74 for a ticket to any league game regardless of the opposition and to be honest I wouldn't blame anyone who said fuck it at that price.

 

[jrb]

Huge difference in a night out or music concert etc.

I don't go on a night out 20 times a year.
I don't go to a music concert 20 times a year.
20 games at 70quid = 1400quid !

Bit of a difference that between few nights out at about 200quid and my last music gig 100quid.
So my nights out and gigs over the last few years is around 300 quid.

I was going to post something similar.

Artists and groups will play the Coop Live Arena once a year, once in 3 years, once in 5 years, or just once in a lifetime. People who buy tickets do so knowing that, hence why they will pay more for a ticket. They will get one opportunity at the Coop Live Arena to see an artist or a group they like.

Compare that to watching City at the Etihad. Ticket prices are off the top of my head, and will be slightly wrong.

Match day tickets. 1 Adult.

Spurs, 23rd Nov. £75.
Feyenoord, 26 Nov, £35.
Forest, 3rd Dec, £65.
Total, £175.

Average concert ticket prices at the Coop Live Arena are around £80.

Paul McCartney is a joke. Over £600!!

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

So what you're saying is we should all turn up to games in 5 stripe Adidas and Nicks trainers so we can afford tickets?

Right you are: /

I'm saying that we live in an expensive world, where everything costs more. To expect £30 price capped tickets (as some are saying) is unrealistic. So, as a consumer of anything, we have to make choices, so for me, yes, if I had to make the choice between wearing Nicks or going to City, I'd be wearing the Nicks.

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

There have been documentaries made on how the music industry rips the public off.

Plus it’s not just City fans moaning about City, it’s all fans moaning about all clubs and we are uniting over it. City are just 1/20 of the problem but our club is a problem. Wednesday night’s pathetic attendance showed that. Kids all over this city have never set foot inside the Etihad despite being massive Blues. That’s fucking wrong, if you think it isn’t you’re just part of the problem.

So let me get this right, if I don't agree with your view I'm part of the problem? That's just typical of today's social media led society.

The reason why the stadium was half empty was not primarily driven by ticket pricing but rather an apathy amongst our fan base, partly for the Champions League, partly because some fans are fickle and don't want to pay to see us struggling, partly due to arm chair fans, who'd prefer to spend money elsewhere.

I do accept that some fans genuinely can't afford it and I have sympathy there, but that's life unfortunately, we all want some things we can't have.

I also take your point entirely on kids pricing, and agree that (and higher prices in general) are a football thing and not just a city thing. The way to lobby that is not hating on our own club but rather coming together on mass as football fans to challenge the overarching league and regulators.