A s**t away end full of tourists

[xgorton]

Try going to one then instead of coming on here talking a pile of shit.

Out of order mate.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Then the only way is organised kick offs at home matches. But how to go about starting it is anyone's guess. Perhaps @Manchester33 could help get the ball rolling with 1894, perhaps they could take on the mantle of an independent supporters union? Id be more than happy to pay a membership fee and I'm sure others would.

I agree. We need something. We have all of these various groups, but they don’t really have any influence over the club.

I look at the spirit of Shankly group at Liverpool and see how much they stand up for the fans and make a difference.

 

[Maccblue]

It was Baltic, think we sold about 2300 out of 5000 available. Reduced allocations were seen at all over the country, the team was poor and the prices ridiculous, I earnt 1000s of points in this era, anyone of a certain age could have easily done the same but places like Wigan and Bolton even saw modest City followings due to cost

They were selling tickets for our end on the day at Boro from their ticket office

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I agree. We need something. We have all of these various groups, but they don’t really have any influence over the club.

I look at the spirit of Shankly group at Liverpool and see how much they stand up for the fans and make a difference.

1894 were talking about setting themselves up as a Supporters Trust. I did try to talk them into it a few years ago.

We are the only one of the 'top six' (we're still just about there) not to have one. Perhaps we've been too happy with our lot to kick up a fuss over the last few years, but the tide seems to be turning. MUST & SoS have been particularly effective, but the Spurs one has been sidelined by the club a bit from what I've seen. And Arsenal seem to have three separate groups.

 

[jrb]

Across the PL it's now the owners working together in secret against the fans.

The owners are the ones who have brought this about, and are still driving it.

And to think, after COVID and the empty stadiums, the owners welcomed the fans back with open arms. Two faced....

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

1894 were talking about setting themselves up as a Supporters Trust. I did try to talk them into it a few years ago.

We are the only one of the 'top six' (we're still just about there) not to have one. Perhaps we've been too happy with our lot to kick up a fuss over the last few years, but the tide seems to be turning. MUST & SoS have been particularly effective, but the Spurs one has been sidelined by the club a bit from what I've seen. And Arsenal seem to have three separate groups.

I think something needs to be done. That could be the various groups working together or something new entirely.

We’ve seen so many things happen over the last few years and we’ve had no voice or one group standing up for us (with any influence). That’s people being kicked out of the front row, how tickets are allocated or the price of food for example. One main supporters trust is needed.

City matters doesn’t seem to have any influence at all and it feels like a token gesture to show the club ‘care’.

 

[edinburgh123]

In response to your first point I've argued in the past (and even earlier in this thread) that there's a mismatch between numbers of tickets available to the different groups and and numbers making up those groups. If there's 5k hospitality season ticket holders (and that sounds like a lot) and 35k general season card holders, then the general season card holders should get 7 times the tickets that the hospitality subset get, whereas currently it's 4 times. So yes, we could argue that.

In principle yes, but if... as a result of reducing hospitality away tickets (and it has changed dramatically already from 2 or 3 years ago when you were pretty much 'guaranteed' away tickets, now it is nearly always a ballot) the number of people interested in hospitality drops (even 10%) then your tickets theoretically could go up 30-40% to compensate and then there would be even more complaints over price than there are already

 

[eric pode of croydon]

Im a bit of a hopper ( done 400 grounds over the years ) and although I always have a City top on I would not dream of wearing it openly in other clubs grounds as a) I could get a kick in and b) it shows a total lack of respect to the club I am visiting.

That said one time I went to a Hungarian 4th division game.

Ha ha respect, I was quite pleased with my 44 different grounds. Nice one.

 

[Chappie]

Out of order mate.

Sorry,I will run all my comments through you first.

 

[beermusic]

There isn’t a rule saying fans of other clubs shouldn’t wear their clubs shirts at City matches. I’ve seen loads of different teams shirts worn by tourists at the Etihad. But there is an accepted rule amongst fans that fans of other clubs shouldn’t wear their team’s shirts at other grounds, especially not in the away ends. It’s a sign of disrespect.

Like you I’ve been to a few European games whilst on holiday. I would have never worn a City shirt to those matches. If you go and watch another team, you usually support the home team, or be neutral, if you don’t have an affiliation to either side.

I would say there should be a rule about non city shirts or colours in an away end. Otherwise what’s the cutoff? 8 lads in Tottenham shirts in there yesterday? Real madrid? Millwall?

It’s fucking ridiculous they got in let alone got eight seats in a row

 

[NJMCFC184]

Off topic but;

I’ve not been to an away game for a number of years but I’m always struck by our away contingent seems to have the same faces. Either during the game, Cheeseman’s vlogs or the YouTube guys, always the same people.

Wouldn’t it be great if the away tickets were on a ballot and let everyone who wants to go have the same chance?

Yeah fuck the hard work guys have put in over the years, we get 6000 away at Spurs and sent 3k back, why don't people use these games to get to away games? Always complain they cant get to Anfield/Emirates/Old Trafford, were in cup draw at 7pm wonder if we got WBA away and got whole Birmingham RD end (5k) if they'd all be crying for tickets or would WBA away be beneath them.

 

[.db.]

It was around this time last season that
it really struck home.
City ticket office had fucked up our tickets, as a 'sorry' they gave us an up grade to the legends suit.

As a one of we did the pre match stadium tour ( don't bother ). I was shocked at how busy the campus was at 10 am for a 3pm ko.
On the tour of around 25 people the question was asked ' how many are going to the match' everyone was going. Than they asked how many are City fans, only about 6 or 7. That shocked me.

These tours were going every 15 minutes or so, there were loads of tours going on. Now if all the tours had the same percentage as ours, hardy any were City fans.

I hated it, I hated being outnumbered at my club, it was bizarre. I felt like I wasn't wanted anymore. The tour was geared up for new fans. The questions being asked by the tour guide was embarrassing, any ture City fan would know the facts and the history. It was a really dumb down tour

That's when my view on match going changed. Now we can't get tickets next to each other this season.

I hate it as well. I hate being told ‘it’s the price of success’. There’s nothing good about it from a core fan’s point of view.

I keep telling lads I know that the seat next to me isn’t a season ticket seat anymore (the lad there was finally priced out a few years ago) so for them to try and get next to me. Not once in a season and a half have any of them been able to get that seat.

Instead it’s been a different foreigner (apart from one lad from Glasgow for Sparta Praha) sat next to me. Half the time it’s a fan of the opposition or opposition player (Lpool at home last season it was a Mo Salah fan, bizarre thing, it’s not tennis where the sport is played by individuals!).

Even when they’re City fans, it’s rare they converse with me, I barely get a single word out of most of them. Even when it’s clear they speak English, they aren’t interested. It’s fucking boring being sat next to them, no conversation and no banter, they don’t sing, they barely get excited apart from the odd ones. Only once (the Glaswegian lad) have any of them chatted to me… and every single cell in my body hates it when they get excited when the opposition or their player for the opposition has a chance or scores.

There was a home game last year where the lad who was there next to me that day was sat with his leg digging into mine as he sat spread eagle, head down with his phone between his legs, I didn’t notice him look up at the game once.
When we scored he looked actively pissed off and didn’t even stand up. I purposely fell over him to hug the lad next door but one to me. He tried to push me off so I shouted in his face ‘WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE FOR?!’. Then when I sat down again, I pointed out the centre point between our seats and told him to move his leg from being miles into my space.

He fucked off before half time and didn’t come back for the second half.

I’d rather have an empty seat next to me.

 

[NJMCFC184]

I hate it as well. I hate being told ‘it’s the price of success’. There’s nothing good about it from a core fan’s point of view.

I keep telling lads I know that the seat next to me isn’t a season ticket seat anymore (the lad there was finally priced out a few years ago) so for them to try and get next to me. Not once in a season and a half have any of them been able to get that seat.

Instead it’s been a different foreigner (apart from one lad from Glasgow for Sparta Praha) sat next to me. Half the time it’s a fan of the opposition or opposition player (Lpool at home last season it was a Mo Salah fan, bizarre thing, it’s not tennis where the sport is played by individuals!).

Even when they’re City fans, it’s rare they converse with me, I barely get a single word out of most of them. Even when it’s clear they speak English, they aren’t interested. It’s fucking boring being sat next to them, no conversation and no banter, they don’t sing, they barely get excited apart from the odd ones. Only once (the Glaswegian lad) have any of them chatted to me… and every single cell in my body hates it when they get excited when the opposition or their player for the opposition has a chance or scores.

There was a home game last year where the lad who was there next to me that day was sat with his leg digging into mine as he sat spread eagle, head down with his phone between his legs, I didn’t notice him look up at the game once.
When we scored he looked actively pissed off and didn’t even stand up. I purposely fell over him to hug the lad next door but one to me. He tried to push me off so I shouted in his face ‘WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE FOR?!’. Then when I sat down again, I pointed out the centre point between our seats and told him to move his leg from being miles into my space.

He fucked off before half time and didn’t come back for the second half.

I’d rather have an empty seat next to me.

Great post

 

[Gone for a Burton]

1894 group could do one of their massive banners ‘Tickets for fans not tourists’ instead of a big one of pep’s bleeding head etc. it seems we can organise a clap on 19 minutes for a departed blue - why not a mass walkout to the concourses for 5 minutes. Covid football was the warning of what the game feels like without noise

Anything we do should be synchronised with all other clubs as a unified DAY of PROTEST.....but bring it on !!

 

[give it to gordon]

I hate it as well. I hate being told ‘it’s the price of success’. There’s nothing good about it from a core fan’s point of view.

I keep telling lads I know that the seat next to me isn’t a season ticket seat anymore (the lad there was finally priced out a few years ago) so for them to try and get next to me. Not once in a season and a half have any of them been able to get that seat.

Instead it’s been a different foreigner (apart from one lad from Glasgow for Sparta Praha) sat next to me. Half the time it’s a fan of the opposition or opposition player (Lpool at home last season it was a Mo Salah fan, bizarre thing, it’s not tennis where the sport is played by individuals!).

Even when they’re City fans, it’s rare they converse with me, I barely get a single word out of most of them. Even when it’s clear they speak English, they aren’t interested. It’s fucking boring being sat next to them, no conversation and no banter, they don’t sing, they barely get excited apart from the odd ones. Only once (the Glaswegian lad) have any of them chatted to me… and every single cell in my body hates it when they get excited when the opposition or their player for the opposition has a chance or scores.

There was a home game last year where the lad who was there next to me that day was sat with his leg digging into mine as he sat spread eagle, head down with his phone between his legs, I didn’t notice him look up at the game once.
When we scored he looked actively pissed off and didn’t even stand up. I purposely fell over him to hug the lad next door but one to me. He tried to push me off so I shouted in his face ‘WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE FOR?!’. Then when I sat down again, I pointed out the centre point between our seats and told him to move his leg from being miles into my space.

He fucked off before half time and didn’t come back for the second half.

I’d rather have an empty seat next to me.

I was only thinking back to the first time I took my lad back in the early 2000's.
We were in the family stand, nearly everyone around us spoke to us, offered my lad sweets etc.
They couldn't believe we left at 6am ( lots of loo breaks lol ).
It was like coming home, it was great.
But like you we can't get seats together nowadays, the people don't chat, it's not really enjoyable now

 

[BrianW]

It's all about drawing in as much revenue as possible.
If City can sell a seat for £500 rather than £50 they will. (And £50 is extortionate.)
In part, it's down to the need to meet financial rules. But it's also taking the piss, big time.
I'm not sure that traditional fans matter anymore, and it's not just here. You just have to look at the Rags, charging kids £66.

 

[Dodge]

Across the PL it's now the owners working together in secret against the fans.

The owners are the ones who have brought this about, and are still driving it.

And to think, after COVID and the empty stadiums, the owners welcomed the fans back with open arms. Two faced....

Despite rumours that the big clubs made as much money by draping huge advertising banners across the seats vacated by Covid restrictions.

 

[Dodge]

Yeah fuck the hard work guys have put in over the years, we get 6000 away at Spurs and sent 3k back, why don't people use these games to get to away games? Always complain they cant get to Anfield/Emirates/Old Trafford, were in cup draw at 7pm wonder if we got WBA away and got whole Birmingham RD end (5k) if they'd all be crying for tickets or would WBA away be beneath them.

Hope to fuck it is the Baggies...chicken tikka in The Vine....yes please.

 

[bladdered]

That is a piss take. I can't even dream about getting a ticket for Scouse away despite being chased around Stanley Park by mickies with Stanley's more times than I can remember. Absolute disgrace. But sadly no longer surprises me.

 

[MCFC1993]

Irony would be if all City fans turned up in England tops or something unrelated to the club on Wednesday, the club would fucking hate it for the optics and would probably send our message mainstream.

Probably a bit too disrespectful to the team and Pep but extreme measures may be needed in the not so distant future.