PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

bobbyowenquiff said:
The PL leadership are only interested in damaging City. The 115 narrative was just a PR stunt. The PL is not the CPS so there are no charges just allegations. It has been a witch-hunt since day one.
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Clearly the 115 narrative was a PR stunt, but references to 'charges' or 'prosecution' or whatever are simply a convenient shorthand for referring to what's happening here. That involves a body instituting disciplinary proceedings against a member as a result of the latter's alleged large-scale breaches of the body's rules. It's asking a tribunal to confirm the fact of the breaches and impose a suitable punishment where the breaches are upheld.

The PL leadership are interested in causing as much damage to City as they possibly can, including ideally (from their point of view) by achieving an outcome that finishes the club once and for all as a major player in the English game. Egged on by the most powerful member clubs, who hold a disproportionate sway in these matters, they've conducted a fishing expedition of an investigation and seem to have approached the 'charging' aspect in the spirit of throwing as much shit as possible, which will not only damage the club's reputation but might also - you never know - see some of it stick and justify strict sanctions.

Based on what's in the public domain, we may not think they have an especially strong prospect of success. However, people with much greater knowledge than I say there's never a completely sure thing in litigation. And the pedigree (and cost) of the legal representation they've engaged and the length of the hearing both suggest that they're giving it as good a go as they can. I think the PL's conduct is invidious, but there you go.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Correct. Whether it transpires to be accurate or not we'll wait and see, but the amount of stuff I've read about apparent great news because of people's body language or Masters wording comments in certain ways ("natural conclusion"), Berrarda wouldn't move if we were fucked, we're building a new stand so it all must be tickety boo etc etc.......this is just as worthy of posting and discussing if not more.
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If the story told on Sunday from the same source had been the opposite - that the case was still born - no charges had stuck and was all over there would be hundreds of extra pages on here with everybody shouting from the rooftops believing it.

It doesnt add up with the case ongoing but the source has been told by someone that it’s not going well.

We can call it bullshit but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be making it up about whoever has told him.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
If the story told on Sunday from the same source had been the opposite - that the case was still born - no charges had stuck and was all over there would be hundreds of extra pages on here with everybody shouting from the rooftops believing it.

It doesnt add up with the case ongoing but the source has been told by someone that it’s not going well.

We can call it bullshit but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be making it up about whoever has told him.
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I suppose that depends on the individual's nature.
 
petrusha said:
Clearly the 115 narrative was a PR stunt, but references to 'charges' or 'prosecution' or whatever are simply a convenient shorthand for referring to what's happening here. That involves a body instituting disciplinary proceedings against a member as a result of the latter's alleged large-scale breaches of the body's rules. It's asking a tribunal to confirm the fact of the breaches and impose a suitable punishment where the breaches are upheld.

The PL leadership are interested in causing as much damage to City as they possibly can, including ideally (from their point of view) by achieving an outcome that finishes the club once and for all as a major player in the English game. Egged on by the most powerful member clubs, who hold a disproportionate sway in these matters, they've conducted a fishing expedition of an investigation and seem to have approached the 'charging' aspect in the spirit of throwing as much shit as possible, which will not only damage the club's reputation but might also - you never know - see some of it stick and justify strict sanctions.

Based on what's in the public domain, we may not think they have an especially strong prospect of success. However, people with much greater knowledge than I say there's never a completely sure thing in litigation. And the pedigree (and cost) of the legal representation they've engaged and the length of the hearing both suggest that they're giving it as good a go as they can. I think the PL's conduct is invidious, but there you go.
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Thanks blue
The voice of reason....for me.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
If the story told on Sunday from the same source had been the opposite - that the case was still born - no charges had stuck and was all over there would be hundreds of extra pages on here with everybody shouting from the rooftops believing it.

It doesnt add up with the case ongoing but the source has been told by someone that it’s not going well.

We can call it bullshit but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be making it up about whoever has told him.
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If it's the source who I think it is he has supposedly already been privy to three different outcomes. I'm sure the first one was the hearing was finishing early as we were totally innocent, now we're getting a 40 point deduction? You couldn't make it up..or could you?
 
petrusha said:
Clearly the 115 narrative was a PR stunt, but references to 'charges' or 'prosecution' or whatever are simply a convenient shorthand for referring to what's happening here. That involves a body instituting disciplinary proceedings against a member as a result of the latter's alleged large-scale breaches of the body's rules. It's asking a tribunal to confirm the fact of the breaches and impose a suitable punishment where the breaches are upheld.

The PL leadership are interested in causing as much damage to City as they possibly can, including ideally (from their point of view) by achieving an outcome that finishes the club once and for all as a major player in the English game. Egged on by the most powerful member clubs, who hold a disproportionate sway in these matters, they've conducted a fishing expedition of an investigation and seem to have approached the 'charging' aspect in the spirit of throwing as much shit as possible, which will not only damage the club's reputation but might also - you never know - see some of it stick and justify strict sanctions.

Based on what's in the public domain, we may not think they have an especially strong prospect of success. However, people with much greater knowledge than I say there's never a completely sure thing in litigation. And the pedigree (and cost) of the legal representation they've engaged and the length of the hearing both suggest that they're giving it as good a go as they can. I think the PL's conduct is invidious, but there you go.
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Surprisingly conspiratorial from you, young man. I thought I was the one with the conspiracies ......

:)
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Possibly - but we all know who it is. Do you honestly think they would want to be spreading made up nonsense that we are fucked on these charges ?
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I don't know the detail of who was saying what to who when and where he got the information from or where the person who got the information got it from.

All I know is that, this time, the information as presented doesn't tie in at all to anything we know about what is actually happening.
 
petrusha said:
Clearly the 115 narrative was a PR stunt, but references to 'charges' or 'prosecution' or whatever are simply a convenient shorthand for referring to what's happening here. That involves a body instituting disciplinary proceedings against a member as a result of the latter's alleged large-scale breaches of the body's rules. It's asking a tribunal to confirm the fact of the breaches and impose a suitable punishment where the breaches are upheld.

The PL leadership are interested in causing as much damage to City as they possibly can, including ideally (from their point of view) by achieving an outcome that finishes the club once and for all as a major player in the English game. Egged on by the most powerful member clubs, who hold a disproportionate sway in these matters, they've conducted a fishing expedition of an investigation and seem to have approached the 'charging' aspect in the spirit of throwing as much shit as possible, which will not only damage the club's reputation but might also - you never know - see some of it stick and justify strict sanctions.

Based on what's in the public domain, we may not think they have an especially strong prospect of success. However, people with much greater knowledge than I say there's never a completely sure thing in litigation. And the pedigree (and cost) of the legal representation they've engaged and the length of the hearing both suggest that they're giving it as good a go as they can. I think the PL's conduct is invidious, but there you go.
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Invidious, now that's a word.
Excellent
 
mancboy said:
based on what exactly. So by ur recogning it is entirely okay for an owner to saddle a club with billions in debt and let a stadium fall into complete disrepair? It is okay for owners to lend clubs money in the form of shareholder loans which could be recalled at any time and put the club into bankruptcy? But it is not okay for owners to invest their own money into a club and be stopped from doing so in a pathetic attempt by the cartel members to close up their shop framed by rules which were framed as fair play but had zero to do with any kind of fairness?
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Exactly this - People need to remember the reality

@Invisible Man's Bandage - absolutely no offence - but you seem to have some form of Stockholm syndrome - you are starting to believe these fabricated rules have any real validity

They are just the dressing ups of the corrupt cartel members mate

Don't fall for it
 
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