FC United Thread

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

This bit is rather puzzling

Payment Profile: To help the club in the early years particularly with cash flow stretched due to the postponed games, MCC has agreed a low start loan profile: £0 in 2023/24, £30,000 in 2024/25, £75,000 in 2025/26 before rising to £91,000.

So because the club have “suffered” from a few postponements this season, the council are giving them a hand and not asking for any money this season.
I don’t get that. I appreciate the cash flow issues they face now but eventually by May those postponed games will have been played and the money from each game accounted for. These games aren’t lost, just delayed.

The question has to be asked, what happens this time next season if again the Rag Socks are knocked out of the FA Cup / FA Trophy early leaving games again postponed due to opponents still being involved in these competitions?

There is a clear pattern here over the past however many seasons that these fuckers are simply struggling to survive, yet the council are again bending over backwards to accommodate them when everyone on Blue Moon reading this (apart from @M40_Sheriff ) know that the whole project is a sham and should be pulled.

 

[Mostonisblue]

The low start to repayments after a 2 year holiday has nothing to do with the cash flow problems & current postponements. This deal with the council has taken over 2 years to negotiate. The council knew they weren’t making any profit so gave them a two year repayment holiday then structured the loan to begin with very small payments as that was the only way they’d see any cash. As always with FC & their unrealistic business plans there’s always promises of jam tomorrow.

Final point on the council offering to restructure loans from over 8% & over 14% down to just 6% & pay the legal & setup fees for them. they looked elsewhere for funding & nobody else would touch them with a barge pole & if they found someone foolish enough to take on the risk it would be at 20% not the 6% the council are asking for.

This slide also shows they asked the council to buy their (by their own admission on other slides) unfinished, poor quality & expensive to maintain stadium but the council said no.

Next year’s £30 grand repayment will be met only because of the fund the foundations bucket shaking, so they need an unrealistic and very quick turnaround in the business plans to meet the increasing payments in future years & replace the £500,000 3G pitch coming to the end of its lifespan which is a crucial earner for them & contractually should have had a sinking fund to replace it due to it’s initial grant funding.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I called the big scum a basket case on here last night....meet mini basket case.

Both swimming in debt and both think the world owes them.

 

[RadcliffeRick]

I called the big scum a basket case on here last night....meet mini basket case.

Both swimming in debt and both think the world owes them.

It's the utd way, it's in their DNA!!

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

But, but, but @M40_Sheriff assured us all that monthly payments were being met…..

I’m speculating here, but it might just be possible that @M40_Sheriff either has drunk the Kool-Aid, or might just not have been 100% wholly and completely, totally and utterly truthful in his posts on here. Or both.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Shit, I was hoping to read that these cunts and their fake club and ground had been nuked, with their officials imprisoned along with the corrupt councillors who agreed the funding.

I live in hope !

 

[BrianW]

They need a sugar daddy to come in and buy them a new ground outside Manchester. There is a precedent.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Always worth a giggle watching this.
Remember their catch phrase Making Frineds Not Millionaires…..

Right at the beginning they are on a train with a fair few Leeds fans going to Bolton / Horwich. One Tyke shouts Manchester wank wank wank and you can hear a pin drop as it goes quiet. Not a word said in return.
Forward to 2 mins 35 seconds and 20 Bucketeers up against 3 Leeds fans sees them bravely take the Leeds fans on.
You’ll note the young lad in a jacket twice slapping the side of his hips shouting come on. And on both occasions he is taking steps backwards every time he bravely offers the 3 Leeds fans out.
Songs about Leeds / City / Merseyside / we’re the famous Man United and we’re going to Wembley / United Road / all in there. There’s enough material in this short film for psychology students to complete 3 different essays.

@M40_Sheriff do you recognise any of this shower? Are they co-owners?

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

Just seen this letter on the Grundian football internet site. Article was about the Club World Cup and also the scums prem ticket prices featured on the Football Daily.

The only thing missing was the plea to bring some cash for the begging buckets. Bunch of charlatans

“A propos your comments about the extortionately high ticket prices at MUFC (yesterday’s Football Daily), this may be the exact moment to refresh the fact that nearly 20 years ago, in May 2005, 6,000 Manchester United supporters walked away from top-flight football and formed FC United of Manchester. Our new club serves as the biggest consistent weekly protest against the Glazers, the debt burden unfairly placed on United, and the extraordinary amount of money that has ruined the top-flight game. It’s been a rollercoaster ride since then, but our ethos of low matchday ticket prices still persists, with tickets at £13 for adults and juniors are £3. Season tickets are priced on a ‘pay what you can afford’ basis. Here’s a wonderful video (there are loads similar out there on YouTube) summarising the club’s reason for existing. We’ve a Christmas home game coming up on 26 December and could really do with the publicity to encourage all the many disaffected ‘Big United’ fans to roll up and try us out” – Jonathan Kendal.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Just seen this letter on the Grundian football internet site. Article was about the Club World Cup and also the scums prem ticket prices featured on the Football Daily.

The only thing missing was the plea to bring some cash for the begging buckets. Bunch of charlatans

“A propos your comments about the extortionately high ticket prices at MUFC (yesterday’s Football Daily), this may be the exact moment to refresh the fact that nearly 20 years ago, in May 2005, 6,000 Manchester United supporters walked away from top-flight football and formed FC United of Manchester. Our new club serves as the biggest consistent weekly protest against the Glazers, the debt burden unfairly placed on United, and the extraordinary amount of money that has ruined the top-flight game. It’s been a rollercoaster ride since then, but our ethos of low matchday ticket prices still persists, with tickets at £13 for adults and juniors are £3. Season tickets are priced on a ‘pay what you can afford’ basis. Here’s a wonderful video (there are loads similar out there on YouTube) summarising the club’s reason for existing. We’ve a Christmas home game coming up on 26 December and could really do with the publicity to encourage all the many disaffected ‘Big United’ fans to roll up and try us out” – Jonathan Kendal.

What Johnathan doesn’t say is that 4,500 of that 6,000 have walked away from FC United. Meanwhile United games still - as they have done every game every season of those 20 - have sold out.
It would be a solid protest if the swamp was 6,000 down every game. But they aren’t. Their existence has had zilch effect on “Big United”.

 

[Blue Mist]

Just seen this letter on the Grundian football internet site. Article was about the Club World Cup and also the scums prem ticket prices featured on the Football Daily.

The only thing missing was the plea to bring some cash for the begging buckets. Bunch of charlatans

“A propos your comments about the extortionately high ticket prices at MUFC (yesterday’s Football Daily), this may be the exact moment to refresh the fact that nearly 20 years ago, in May 2005, 6,000 Manchester United supporters walked away from top-flight football and formed FC United of Manchester. Our new club serves as the biggest consistent weekly protest against the Glazers, the debt burden unfairly placed on United, and the extraordinary amount of money that has ruined the top-flight game. It’s been a rollercoaster ride since then, but our ethos of low matchday ticket prices still persists, with tickets at £13 for adults and juniors are £3. Season tickets are priced on a ‘pay what you can afford’ basis. Here’s a wonderful video (there are loads similar out there on YouTube) summarising the club’s reason for existing. We’ve a Christmas home game coming up on 26 December and could really do with the publicity to encourage all the many disaffected ‘Big United’ fans to roll up and try us out” – Jonathan Kendal.

'The debt burden unfairly placed on united'

Says a spokesperson that unfairly placed the debt burden on the residents of Manchester.

They really do not understand that tickets at £13 do not allow them to repay their debts.
Pay what you can afford season tickets are to be admired.... if you model the club around a business model that doesn't rely on a 2 year payment holiday from debt repayment.
Finally 6,000 may have been the start original figure but it's now down to 1,200. The rest have got fed up with the board mis-appropriating funds, lying, having a board made up of violent thugs and being shite.

 

[Mostonisblue]

They’re upping it to £15 a game next year

 

[Platt Lane 59]

They’re upping it to £15 a game next year

Is that a standard price for that level ?
I would imagine it's about average ?
But, as their current league position is just above the relegation places, cannot see them attracting any new fans.
Agree with previous posts that they are now just coffin dodgers...

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

They’re upping it to £15 a game next year

Even if they go down?

 

[Mostonisblue]

Even if they go down?

Yep, some clubs in the league below them are charging £7 or £8 a game, they’ll be charging £15

 

[dickie davies]

Even if they go down?

You could write a song

We're going up
We're going down
We're going u-u-up
We're going down

Fuckems going down with a million pound of debt
A million pound of debt
A million pound of debt

Oh and they dropped into the relegation zone this evening

 

[RadcliffeRick]

Oh and they dropped into the relegation zone this evening

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Has anyone who is on Twatter (I am not) thought about contacting David Conn and forwarding the link to this thread, asking him to read the last 20 (or more if he has the time) pages and ask if he’d care to comment on the rag socks current state and to re-evaluate his chapter on the Bucketeers in his book Greater Than God?

And also ask him why he never exposed the shenanigans when his “new found best friends” were found out for being the charlatans they were, when he built his reputation for being the very journalist to highlight corruption within those running football clubs. Was it because it would make that whole chapter in his book embarrassing and worthless as well as discrediting his whole ethos and ethical stance around the basis of his book?

To put it simply - David Conn was conned by FCUM. But he wouldn’t expose the con because that would let everyone know that David Conn himself, had been conned.

As Suzi Quatro almost sang it, “Con The Conn”

His absolute silence on this topic is a shit stain on his journalistic career.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Has anyone who is on Twatter (I am not) thought about contacting David Conn and forwarding the link to this thread, asking him to read the last 20 (or more if he has the time) pages and ask if he’d care to comment on the rag socks current state and to re-evaluate his chapter on the Bucketeers in his book Greater Than God?

And also ask him why he never exposed the shenanigans when his “new found best friends” were found out for being the charlatans they were, when he built his reputation for being the very journalist to highlight corruption within those running football clubs. Was it because it would make that whole chapter in his book embarrassing and worthless as well as discrediting his whole ethos and ethical stance around the whole basis of his book?

To put it simply - David Conn was conned. But wouldn’t expose the con because that would let everyone know that David Conn had been conned.

As Suzi Quatro almost sang it, “Con The Conn”

But was he conned?

Was it not a case of both (and I'll use the term loosely) the club and him using eachother complicity as a potential promotional moneymaker?

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

But was he conned?

Was it not a case of both (and I'll use the term loosely) the club and him using eachother complicity as a potential promotional moneymaker?

My guess is the fact he completely failed to report anything when board member after board member jumped ship before they were pushed, was because he knew if he did, any credibility he gained by writing that chapter about the rag socks had just floated down Moston Brook and into the Irk.

They were his new best friends. The new way forward. The saviors of the game. He was sitting in the directors box at Pallet Park. They wined and dined him. The con was on.