United (H) - Sun 15th Dec, 16:30 | PL | Pre-Match Thread

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simon23 said:
drop the defensive line (ie the fullbacks) slightly deeper...stop asking them to sit half way inside the opponents half....
Play anyone in midfield accept Gundo and Rico - our two weakest defensively players that we could possibly put there out of the choices he has....nether can tackle or cover the ground required. Hehas had Nico OReilly sat there for two months.....he has had two months to at least give the lad a go...he is physical and he can tackle and play box to box...yes he is young but he could not do any worse than what we have seen and int he last two months or so it should have been at least tried.
Play Nunes in there - at least he has some legs - again a better option than Gundo as the 6.

Thats 3 other options at least he could have tried as well as playing Grealish in there when he has been back - none.of thosse has been tried and the frustration with fans is that it is blantantly obvious that the Gundo rico experiement is and abject disaster.....
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Some fans are frustrated because they are too confident that their tactical and personnel choices would have been better, despite having no experience whatsoever in coaching and managing at any level, let alone at top top level. They are completely unaware of their limitations, erroneously believing they know better.

Your suggestions range from ludicrous to dubious. I'd have tried Nunes, I like him, but there are obvious concerns about his first touch and ability to pass the ball around like a proper DM or CM in a Pep team. Starting kids in midfield against Juventus is not a genuine option. O'Reilly needs more experience. He played against Spurs, didn't show he has enough to start at this level right now when we are desperate for more points. The team that started vs Forest and played really well is the best right now, but Ake and Akanji got injured.

The problem with our midfield is that those who know what Pep wants from them and can implement his instructions, lack physicality, whereas those who have legs, lack experience and perhaps the ability or brains to do what Pep wants from them in that part of the pitch. There are trade-offs. Some fans think that having legs is more important than experience, technique or intelligence, but this is something that Pep disagrees with.
 
Dewey6 said:
Needs Ortega in goal, Ederson doesn't look arsed, seems his mind is counting $$ in SA.

Please end this Gundogan/Lewis midfield disaster. Please.
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Get Walker out too these 4 are a major issue plus no point having Haaland if we ain’t going to speed it up. Need Kev to start bring Haaland into the game more through the middle all this fucking passing in midfield takes him out of the game let alone allies every fuckin team to set up their block defence just can’t understand what the fuck that is all about
 
malg said:
New manager bounce for them means this will be tough. Also, Amorim showed he has Guardiola's number in the CL recently when his team owned us.

Anyone at this moment in time would take Hojlund over Haaland, Martinez over Dias, Fernandes over KdB......and yes, Amorim over Guardiola.

Rashford will run riot against our defence and we have to hope they don't start Antony as he'll destroy us. Both would walk into our starting 11 right now.

Take 1-1 right now and move on.
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Any other night and Sporting are 4 down at HT.

I also feel like I've just been Clarkied
 
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TShed said:
Get Walker out too these 4 are a major issue plus no point having Haaland if we ain’t going to speed it up. Need Kev to start bring Haaland into the game more through the middle all this fucking passing in midfield takes him out of the game let alone allies every fuckin team to set up their block defence just can’t understand what the fuck that is all about
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While Walker had been shocking lately, Lewis is suspended so we’ve currently got Dias, Kyle and Gvardiol as our only fit senior defenders unless some of the others are coming back, can’t see Pep throwing the youngsters in so Kyle will likely start
 
simon23 said:
I rarely say this but Id play grealish over either Doku or KDB.....KDB is a liability at present...he cannt run ...now we might just get away with him vs Utd....but maybe not
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Grealish was shit last night!

I like him but last night, Jesus!
 
One thing is for certain is we aren't going to take this for granted (hopefully anyway).
 
alexmcity said:
Some fans are frustrated because they are too confident that their tactical and personnel choices would have been better, despite having no experience whatsoever in coaching and managing at any level, let alone at top top level. They are completely unaware of their limitations, erroneously believing they know better.

Your suggestions range from ludicrous to dubious. I'd have tried Nunes, I like him, but there are obvious concerns about his first touch and ability to pass the ball around like a proper DM or CM in a Pep team. Starting kids in midfield against Juventus is not a genuine option. O'Reilly needs more experience. He played against Spurs, didn't show he has enough to start at this level right now when we are desperate for more points. The team that started vs Forest and played really well is the best right now, but Ake and Akanji got injured.

The problem with our midfield is that those who know what Pep wants from them and can implement his instructions, lack physicality, whereas those who have legs, lack experience and perhaps the ability or brains to do what Pep wants from them in that part of the pitch. There are trade-offs. Some fans think that having legs is more important than experience, technique or intelligence, but this is something that Pep disagrees with.
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I’m all for experience. I think after 1 win in 10, Pep should really be changing the tactics a bit. I am not really seeing that.
 
simon23 said:
drop the defensive line (ie the fullbacks) slightly deeper...stop asking them to sit half way inside the opponents half....
Play anyone in midfield accept Gundo and Rico - our two weakest defensively players that we could possibly put there out of the choices he has....nether can tackle or cover the ground required. Hehas had Nico OReilly sat there for two months.....he has had two months to at least give the lad a go...he is physical and he can tackle and play box to box...yes he is young but he could not do any worse than what we have seen and int he last two months or so it should have been at least tried.
Play Nunes in there - at least he has some legs - again a better option than Gundo as the 6.

Thats 3 other options at least he could have tried as well as playing Grealish in there when he has been back - none.of thosse has been tried and the frustration with fans is that it is blantantly obvious that the Gundo rico experiement is and abject disaster.....
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I am like a broken record if we play Gundo, Bernardo and Rico ( saying that he is suspended) against almost anybody we will get beat. It's happened time and time again ( I have hated being proved right) as before play a def mid Wright and Nico who is strong and get up and down. With Jack just in front.Saying that they have had no minutes for a while!!
 
No fannies in this game so that means Savinho and Nunes can’t play. Hopefully Akanji will be fit as if not I have no idea what we will play at the back.
 
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