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inbetween said:
You say that public R&D created innovation but public R&D does not do anything with that innovation. The public sectors are not competing with the private sector. Innovation is created as a mutual benefit with the private sector who in the end are the ones who create products and jobs. This envy politics has to end.

As much as you may not like it we need to protect industrialists such as Musk because his type of companies create the jobs and projects that matter. Tesla just for example employs 120,000 skilled average joes. Would you rather that those 120,000 people weren't employed and no EV's were built instead?

Musk actually hasn't taken the best students either. In the US and UK the best students follow the money and the biggest money is in big finance and not engineering. We produce many clever people who could change the world but instead of doing that they're currently working at major tax consultancies such as KPMG helping Amazon to avoid tax.

You only have to look at the UK, we're moving to a service economy dominated by the finance industry. However, big finance is worth 10% of GDP and yet it employs less than 2% of the population. An even smaller % of those jobs in finance are in the north, probably less than 0.1% so with manufacturing employing less is it any wonder that we're all skint?

Would the north love Musk to base a Tesla factory up here and create thousands of jobs? Abso-fooking-lutely.
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Musk an industrialist!
I’ve heard everything now.
He had fuck all to do with Tesla other than buying it.
 
City Hobgoblin said:
Culture wars crap at it's moronic worst
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yeah but thanks to him and people like James Melville a company like Arla which is basically a farmers co-operative will suffer at the same time as both those wankers are supporting farmers. They aren't they are just agitating to make trouble coz thats what they do but if Arla fails farms fail and whats the betting they blame that on anything but their campaign?
 
inbetween said:
You say that public R&D created innovation but public R&D does not do anything with that innovation. The public sectors are not competing with the private sector. Innovation is created as a mutual benefit with the private sector who in the end are the ones who create products and jobs. This envy politics has to end.

As much as you may not like it we need to protect industrialists such as Musk because his type of companies create the jobs and projects that matter. Tesla just for example employs 120,000 skilled average joes. Would you rather that those 120,000 people weren't employed and no EV's were built instead?

Musk actually hasn't taken the best students either. In the US and UK the best students follow the money and the biggest money is in big finance and not engineering. We produce many clever people who could change the world but instead of doing that they're currently working at major tax consultancies such as KPMG helping Amazon to avoid tax.

You only have to look at the UK, we're moving to a service economy dominated by the finance industry. However, big finance is worth 10% of GDP and yet it employs less than 2% of the population. An even smaller % of those jobs in finance are in the north, probably less than 0.1% so with manufacturing employing less is it any wonder that we're all skint?

Would the north love Musk to base a Tesla factory up here and create thousands of jobs? Abso-fooking-lutely.
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Musk rejected the opportunity of opening a factory in the UK.

We don't have many industrialits left in the UK, either. They took the money and ran years ago, and how much money has left 'The City' and continues to leave our shores since brexit?

The reason we are all skint is because our economy has been mismanaged for decades, is shrinking, and those that earn the most aren't putting enough of the money they have fleeced back in to help create a balanced society. Salting wealth away in tax heavens doesn't help the country one jot.
 
NPBlue said:
Musk rejected the opportunity of opening a factory in the UK.

We don't have many industrialits left in the UK, either. They took the money and ran years ago, and how much money has left 'The City' and continues to leave our shores since brexit?

The reason we are all skint is because our economy has been mismanaged for decades, is shrinking, and those that earn the most aren't putting enough of the money they have fleeced back in to help create a balanced society. Salting wealth away in tax heavens doesn't help the country one jot.
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and this is why our economy contracts by 0.1% in a month where the weather was shit because of "a lack of activity in pubs and restaurants" - a G7 economy propped up by sales at Wetherspoons cannot be taken seriously
 
hampshireblue said:
What gets me is why the average man in the street actually believes that these millionaires are in it for anything other than their own gain and that they have some sort of affinity with the average Joe public.
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This! Exactly!

People have grown so desperate they are wide open to be taken in by con merchants. That's how we got Brexit.

I think the average IQ must be about 75. The trouble is, if you can assemble about 35-37% of votes in the right places, you can get a parliamentary majority. It's quite scary.
 
BrianW said:
This! Exactly!

People have grown so desperate they are wide open to be taken in by con merchants. That's how we got Brexit.

I think the average IQ must be about 75. The trouble is, if you can assemble about 35-37% of votes in the right places, you can get a parliamentary majority. It's quite scary.
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But they are "desperate" because it is the very same types of people that have got us where we are. The banks fuck up and get bailed out and hey presto some millionaire chancellor comes along and brings in austerity and everything that went with it. The vast majority of the issues we face today are as a direct result of that policy. Think: justice system, policing, NHS, education, housing, roads. Interest rates were below 2% for over a decade, wasn't that the perfect time to actually borrow and invest in the infrastructure? No, let's blame it on the foreigners, be it legals, illegals or the EU actually having the nerve to ask the UK to adhere to the rules all the other 3rd party countries have to, but of course they needed us more than we needed them!!

I think an IQ of 75 may be pushing it a bit.
 
Elon Musk interfering in UK politics “Obviously we'd be delighted," he said."It would be a fantastic endorsement of our policies to save Britain and get Britain going again”

Another businessman on the news preparing to give Farage £1million, Farage wants to be PM
 
BrianW said:
This! Exactly!

People have grown so desperate they are wide open to be taken in by con merchants. That's how we got Brexit.

I think the average IQ must be about 75. The trouble is, if you can assemble about 35-37% of votes in the right places, you can get a parliamentary majority. It's quite scary.
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Wow
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Elon Musk interfering in UK politics “Obviously we'd be delighted," he said."It would be a fantastic endorsement of our policies to save Britain and get Britain going again”

Another businessman on the news preparing to give Farage £1million, Farage wants to be PM
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Surely there is enough common sense in the Country to prevent Farage getting anywhere near no 10 no matter how much financial backing he has
 
mosssideblue said:
Surely there is enough common sense in the Country to prevent Farage getting anywhere near no 10 no matter how much financial backing he has
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I wish that were true but with Elon Musk owning Twitter or X as it is now and Farage taking to social media to recruit young voters he is following the Trump model hoping to influence young men in particular.
BrianW said:
This! Exactly!

People have grown so desperate they are wide open to be taken in by con merchants. That's how we got Brexit.

I think the average IQ must be about 75. The trouble is, if you can assemble about 35-37% of votes in the right places, you can get a parliamentary majority. It's quite scary.
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The average IQ is 100 proof that you can influence a large majority of average people to vote for any mad scheme, if you take to social media and have friends in high places.
Any proposition that involves a change to (what I consider to be a major change to our democracy should have at least 75% if not 90% of the people voting for it)
To stop voters agitating for change such as Brexit we may end up with a right/right wing government
 
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