Priced out? | Club announce that matchday tickets being reduced by up to 43% (p93)

M23 Citizen said:
Yep, doesn’t matter who anyone supports when it comes to this. Fans have to take a stand and do it together as one before it’s too late.

English football is going to implode soon. It’ll be like Serie A from the late 90s and 00s where ticket prices went through the roof and fans just stopped going.

Juventus used to get about 25,000 in their old Stadio Delle Alpi which held 70,000. There was a Turin derby in that stadium that had an attendance of just 19,000 in 2003… and Juve got to the CL final that season. That stadium was only built in 1990 and ended up being knocked down in 2009. It was newer than the Etihad is now when it was demolished.

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Even the two best supported clubs: Inter and Milan; struggled with 36,000ish average attendances in their 80,000 San Siro at times in the mid 2010s.

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Roma v Sampdoria in 2014:
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Clubs priced out their fans, fans stopped going, huge stadiums were empty, TV companies stopped buying their TV rights and the clubs were skint. Only 2 Italian teams have won the CL since 2003, and none in the last 14 years.

It’s slowly starting to get better in Serie A now. The Milan clubs are back getting 72,000 average attendances. It’s probably the second best quality league in Europe behind the PL now. But it had two decades where it ate itself and was in a terrible mess for what was once the greatest league in the world that everyone wanted to watch.

Yet even now they are showing they haven’t learnt their lesson: look at the attendance between Milan and Liverpool earlier this season in the CL: 58,000, 22,000 empty seats when their Serie A attendances are over 70,000… all because they tried to cash-in. Tickets were said to start at €125 for home fans. That’s half a season ticket in the Bundesliga, just for one CL game.
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The Italian economy never recovered from the 1992 foreign exchange crisis, it was pretty cheap there in the late 1990s for football, getting 3000 lira to £ when it was 2000 at the start of the decade. Fans stopped going as they were skint and jobless, but you could pick up a ticket for a top game in the late 1990s for £15 on the day, about the same as City in the north stand for a lower league game at the time. Some games were free for women, and all the prices of all the games were listed in La Gazzetta dello Sport.

The grounds built for the 1990 world cup were poorly constructed and not made to last, nor based on expected attendances for the clubs. The PL killed off Serie A by paying better wages, the tipping point being around 1996.
 
eastlandsblue said:
Had a big debate about this with two members of the red cartel. It started with the empty seats jibe. I normally look at them in bemusement. Because I go and they don’t.
Which his always my reply. On this occasion, I reminded both idiots that fans of all clubs are currently protesting about prices, so maybe they should look at it from that view point.
That some City fans take action and refuse to pay. Both started laughing and claimed it doesn’t matter for them, because they’ll alway have fans to fill the empty seats.
I just looked them in the face and told them they’re a pair of clowns, because that’s precisely the problem. While idiotic day trippers keep paying these prices. We’ll have this issue for years.

One rag fan who does go, told the pair of them to listen at what’s being said. Because he’s one of those fans who will be walking away from it soon because he’s being priced out

On I side note. Not having tourist on Tuesday night was quite refreshing and will have hopefully got some board members discussing prices
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Armchair fans who don’t go to matches don’t have a clue what match-going fans have to put up with regarding pricing. For them to say it doesn’t matter at United as there will always be enough fans to fill the seats is an insult to those United fans who do go and fork out a lot of money for the privilege.
 
Coming from Ireland can be a pain if the rags are home on the same week. Sometimes a trip can be as little as 120 other times 3-400
 
Why is there a question mark at the end of the Priced Out headline?

There’s no question about it, City are pricing their own fans out from going to the matches. (along with the other PL clubs)
 
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:


£48 for a kid against Everton. What on earth are the club playing at!
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As many posters have said this is now beyond a “cock up, oh dear we’ve got that wrong or typical City” to down right exploitation and fleecing of fans. Even tickets for Brugge at home are starting around £40 for an 8pm midweek. Scandalous.
I’ve said it before but my view is Khaldoon has taken his eye off the ball and it started with the Superleague and has carried on since. I’ve no empirical evidence but the results of decisions taken are now evident on and off the pitch.
“Ah but he’s saying this because he’s an entitled glory hunter”. No, I’m in my 53rd year of match going.
It was obvious the English public would never accept superleague - same as we will never accept routinely armed police. So City could easily have said no, knowing it would all crash down and reaped the PR benefit. Now we are in a situation where the whole football world seems against us with snide and completely open (in equal measure) attacks on our, my club. So when the wolves are hemming us in covered by the vulture with the poisonous snakes lurking behind every root and branch, what does the club do……..
a) have a completely passive PR/media response and let us fans Suffer all the time
b) take the absolute piss with ticket prices
Khaldoon is the main man and I’m not impressed as of late. Really hope he proves me wrong.
c) a non coherent recent transfer policy and squad planning that seems to have had no scenario planning at all. FFS we are lucky Erling has played through.
Of course I will always love the club and always go when I can and want but if we are completely abandoned to market forces then I’m afraid the love can never be as deep as before because something fundamental/that made us what we are over 120 years of history will be gone and that’s sad.
But it will be okay because me and many, many thousands and thousands of others have done our time so that the guy with the selfie stick, twin scarf, mobile phone on constant Whatts app, up and down the aisle 3 or 4 times and his dinner complete with Ramen noodle soup and trays of dumplings from his Waitrose carrier bag (it happened next to me recently) can pay his £70 for a ticket.
Oh and he never bloody offered me a dumpling.
 
mexico1970 said:
Clubs aren't deaf, they know they are ripping fans off and they just don't care. The only protest that would mean something is not attending.

Then they'll put the tickets up for sale to tourists for even more money :)
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Damaging the atmosphere affecting performances on the pitch. Leaving early arriving late. Definitely the season to do it too.
 
MCFC1993 said:
Can't be long off a protest surely?
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It has to be done. Fans from all clubs need to come together now. This isn’t just effecting us, it’s effecting pretty much everyone. We’ve collectively had enough.

Games aren’t selling out across the league. Our fans are more powerful than they think. What’s the point in all the success if most people can’t attend
 
mexico1970 said:
Clubs aren't deaf, they know they are ripping fans off and they just don't care. The only protest that would mean something is not attending.

Then they'll put the tickets up for sale to tourists for even more money :)
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That’s making the assumption there are thousands of tourists. There aren’t, tourists are those that probably ever go to one CIity game. Wouldn’t like to put any figure on how many at any one game as it would be a guess, but out of 53000 there won’t be that many. Certainly not enough for it to be a basis for any grand business plan.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
It has to be done. Fans from all clubs need to come together now. This isn’t just effecting us, it’s effecting pretty much everyone. We’ve collectively had enough.

Games aren’t selling out across the league. Our fans are more powerful than they think. What’s the point in all the success if most people can’t attend
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Wouldn’t happen in Germany
 
Stiff Little Wingers said:
As many posters have said this is now beyond a “cock up, oh dear we’ve got that wrong or typical City” to down right exploitation and fleecing of fans. Even tickets for Brugge at home are starting around £40 for an 8pm midweek. Scandalous.
I’ve said it before but my view is Khaldoon has taken his eye off the ball and it started with the Superleague and has carried on since. I’ve no empirical evidence but the results of decisions taken are now evident on and off the pitch.
“Ah but he’s saying this because he’s an entitled glory hunter”. No, I’m in my 53rd year of match going.
It was obvious the English public would never accept superleague - same as we will never accept routinely armed police. So City could easily have said no, knowing it would all crash down and reaped the PR benefit. Now we are in a situation where the whole football world seems against us with snide and completely open (in equal measure) attacks on our, my club. So when the wolves are hemming us in covered by the vulture with the poisonous snakes lurking behind every root and branch, what does the club do……..
a) have a completely passive PR/media response and let us fans Suffer all the time
b) take the absolute piss with ticket prices
Khaldoon is the main man and I’m not impressed as of late. Really hope he proves me wrong.
c) a non coherent recent transfer policy and squad planning that seems to have had no scenario planning at all. FFS we are lucky Erling has played through.
Of course I will always love the club and always go when I can and want but if we are completely abandoned to market forces then I’m afraid the love can never be as deep as before because something fundamental/that made us what we are over 120 years of history will be gone and that’s sad.
But it will be okay because me and many, many thousands and thousands of others have done our time so that the guy with the selfie stick, twin scarf, mobile phone on constant Whatts app, up and down the aisle 3 or 4 times and his dinner complete with Ramen noodle soup and trays of dumplings from his Waitrose carrier bag (it happened next to me recently) can pay his £70 for a ticket.
Oh and he never bloody offered me a dumpling.
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Agree with a lot of your points but to be fair, Brugge tickets start at £25, same as Feyenoord and Prague.
 
Originally posted by Damocles.

Revenue Segment: Matchday​


Matchday revenue increased from £71.9m to £75.6m (+5.1%)

Matchday revenue increased from £71.9m to £75.6m (+5.1%) despite four fewer paid home matches and one less neutral venue match.

As an aside, the club’s strategic report states that City played 31 home matches in 2022/23 (and therefore 5 fewer home matches), but by my count the 2022/23 total is 30 (PL: 19; UCL: 6; FA Cup: 3; EFL Cup: 2)

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I’ll repost the link if anyone wants to read the financial results breakdown. It’s really well set out.

gregcordell.substack.com

Manchester City FC: 2023/24 Financial Results

Overview of P&L, Investment, Cash Flow, and Debt
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