PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Bluewonder]

But it is a technical term

Sure.

I don't mean it in a technical manner, I just think the PL is out to get City and has been for several years. Hence the APT findings.

Thanks for replying.

 

[jrb]

Is this the longest ever thread on BM, 8000 pages atm?

Obviously it will have to go in the Classics thread when it is finally locked, if that ever happens?

 

[eastlandsblue]

This is true in all litigation - you'd focus on your strong claims and not dilute them with loads of noise from other matters. The PL chose a kitchen sink approach which I think is a mistake. But I don't think it necessarily signals that they expect to lose the serious ones. It really would be a strange move to pursue a case of this nature without confidence in the core of the case.

The non cooperation charges will recoup some of they’re cost

I’m still of the opinion. If they had a magic bullet, they’d have instantly fired it

 

[Goodlove]

2000 pages in 6 months. Result expected January/February? I’m predicted it topping out at 11k if the result isn’t appealed.

If it’s appealed fuck knows

 

[halfcenturyup]

optics are everything and you know that as well as i do tbf

To you and me, yes. Not sure it carries much weight in the hearing, though

 

[mancboy]

To you and me, yes. Not sure it carries much weight in the hearing, though

it doesnt carry much weight in a legal hearing , you are correct but ask yourself this when you are arguing the semantics of the pl acting in bad faith then surely the whole thing is how it looks because bar any emails showing them expressly saying they are doing this for malicious reasons then acting in good or bad faith would be entirely subjective and when something is entirely subjective then the optics are quite important.

 

[Damocles]

Is this the longest ever thread on BM, 8000 pages atm?

Obviously it will have to go in the Classics thread when it is finally locked, if that ever happens?

They've been playing the Music Association game in Off Topic since 2009 and it's now at 13,000 pages.

 

[mancboy]

2000 pages in 6 months. Result expected January/February? I’m predicted it topping out at 11k if the result isn’t appealed.

If it’s appealed fuck knows

@halfcenturyup accounts for about 1500 of those, one of these days he'll get a proper job ;)

 

[KS55]

City can't be paying to towards the costs of charging City !

The PL will try, claiming all costs are shared by 20 clubs.

 

[halfcenturyup]

@halfcenturyup accounts for about 1500 of those, one of these days he'll get a proper job ;)

Retired, matey, so all the time in the world. Here's to another 1500 pages ;)

 

[mancboy]

Retired, matey, so all the time in the world. Here's to another 1500 pages ;)

lucky bastard

 

[halfcenturyup]

They've been playing the Music Association game in Off Topic since 2009 and it's now at 13,000 pages.

A challenge. I better up my game :)

 

[xgorton]

optics are everything and you know that as well as i do tbf

Optics top shelf whatever,I need a stiff drink all too much for me.

 

[halfcenturyup]

lucky bastard

Retired after 26 years slaving over a hot secretary. So, yes, lucky bastard :)

 

[Blue Theatre]

Is one problem City have, that no one seems clear on the punishment for each charge ? They seem open-ended.
If it were clear that (say) 20 of the charges just carried minor fines, it might pay City to concede them & give the Premier League a way out ?

The other big problem City have, is how to live with the Premier League & all the other clubs post-judgement. Even (in fact, especially) if we are found innocent on every charge, there's going to be a lot of bad feeling between us & (almost) everyone else.

 

[mancboy]

Retired after 26 years slaving over a hot secretary. So, yes, lucky bastard :)

lol ur good lady wife does not frequent the forum one would assume

 

[mancboy]

Optics top shelf whatever,I need a stiff drink all too much for me.

vodka if you're getting em in lol

 

[cheekybids]

The bottom line is if she works for the PL she’ll be a **** of the highest order.

“The game is the game.”

But your premise is simply not true - certainly the APT Tribunal said nothing of the sort. I do think that there is some risk of severe criticism of the PLby the IC if they lose this case because if you bring such serious allegations you tend to be criticised if you fail and often penalised by a big costs order (FWIW).

I think this is where the “non-legal” see it differently to the lawyers & obviously you are correct from a legal point of view. However it’s apparent that arbitration panels try not to criticise but summarise in a way that the ordinary man in the street reads it differently.

 

[cheekybids]

You're the lawyer, and perhaps you're coming at the term 'good faith' from a technical point of view, but I fundamentally disagree that a party is acting entirely in good faith if it is found, on seven occasions, to have acted unreasonably, unfairly and unlawfully (against its own legal advice, no less!) against a member club.

I agree but don’t let me represent myself if I go to court ;)

 

[Chappie]

Is one problem City have, that no one seems clear on the punishment for each charge ? They seem open-ended.
If it were clear that (say) 20 of the charges just carried minor fines, it might pay City to concede them & give the Premier League a way out ?

The other big problem City have, is how to live with the Premier League & all the other clubs post-judgement. Even (in fact, especially) if we are found innocent on every charge, there's going to be a lot of bad feeling between us & (almost) everyone else.

If you are innocent of all chargeses how can there be bad feelings from everyone else.
They should be apologising !!!