PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

cheekybids said:
“The game is the game.”




I think this is where the “non-legal” see it differently to the lawyers & obviously you are correct from a legal point of view. However it’s apparent that arbitration panels try not to criticise but summarise in a way that the ordinary man in the street reads it differently.
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You mean they talk different bollocks than we do?
 
Blue Theatre said:
Is one problem City have, that no one seems clear on the punishment for each charge ? They seem open-ended.
If it were clear that (say) 20 of the charges just carried minor fines, it might pay City to concede them & give the Premier League a way out ?

The other big problem City have, is how to live with the Premier League & all the other clubs post-judgement. Even (in fact, especially) if we are found innocent on every charge, there's going to be a lot of bad feeling between us & (almost) everyone else.
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City have always been adamant that they are guilty of nothing and as such will admit guilt to nothing. UEFA offered City a fine to avoid a hearing, City declined on the same basis.
It's not unusual in business to face someone in court but carry on as normal outside of that. Although in this case if we are found innocent on all counts I expect Masters position will become untenable.
 
Manchester1894 said:
Both sides are so desperate to get this over the line but they'll both appeal and it'll drag out till 2026 or something. Meanwhile we'll struggle to get the top players we need whilst Real hoover them all up. Feels like a few windows since the charges announced have set us back years. We can bounce back but I think we need this dinner by summer to turn it around quickly
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I'm not sure we can take for granted that both sides will definitely appeal it. Will depend on the determination and what it says.
 
Blue Theatre said:
Is one problem City have, that no one seems clear on the punishment for each charge ? They seem open-ended.
If it were clear that (say) 20 of the charges just carried minor fines, it might pay City to concede them & give the Premier League a way out ?

The other big problem City have, is how to live with the Premier League & all the other clubs post-judgement. Even (in fact, especially) if we are found innocent on every charge, there's going to be a lot of bad feeling between us & (almost) everyone else.
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1st - City wont accept a single charge that isnt deserved. We've learnt from that in the past. But I am not sure what makes you think it would pay City to accept them? And I am not sure we want to give the PL a way out tbh. ITs all out war.

2 - Its already all out war. There's a massive amount of bad feeling from the PL, which confuses me tbh. The PL seem to have gone out of their way to make this as ugly as possible. Leaks, the amount of charges, statements they have made, etc. Usually the organisation would lay the charges and let things take their course.... This whole process has been poisonous from the start. Makes me feel like we are fighting our rivals, not the organisation given the amount of poison that has come from them.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
1st - City wont accept a single charge that isnt deserved. We've learnt from that in the past. But I am not sure what makes you think it would pay City to accept them? And I am not sure we want to give the PL a way out tbh. ITs all out war.

2 - Its already all out war. There's a massive amount of bad feeling from the PL, which confuses me tbh. The PL seem to have gone out of their way to make this as ugly as possible. Leaks, the amount of charges, statements they have made, etc. Usually the organisation would lay the charges and let things take their course.... This whole process has been poisonous from the start. Makes me feel like we are fighting our rivals, not the organisation given the amount of poison that has come from them.
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I think it's clear, to me at least, that the club has treated this as a hostile investigation and has caused as much "trouble" for the PL as it could. Probably rightly. Imho.
 
mancboy said:
it doesnt carry much weight in a legal hearing , you are correct but ask yourself this when you are arguing the semantics of the pl acting in bad faith then surely the whole thing is how it looks because bar any emails showing them expressly saying they are doing this for malicious reasons then acting in good or bad faith would be entirely subjective and when something is entirely subjective then the optics are quite important.
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I suppose it may have some weight if the club were trying to cast doubt on the PL's allegations due to some sort of bias from the PL. Every little thing may help in that case. But I doubt they will be doing that, or that they will need to, tbh.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I suppose it may have some weight if the club were trying to cast doubt on the PL's allegations due to some sort of bias from the PL. Every little thing may help in that case. But I doubt they will be doing that, or that they will need to, tbh.
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Thats just for the netflix documentary…..

Anyway….. this secretary, you know the rules ;)
 
blueste41 said:
City have always been adamant that they are guilty of nothing and as such will admit guilt to nothing. UEFA offered City a fine to avoid a hearing, City declined on the same basis.
It's not unusual in business to face someone in court but carry on as normal outside of that. Although in this case if we are found innocent on all counts I expect Masters position will become untenable.
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.....along others, and an exposë of the red yank cabal who are front and centre of the attempt to destroy us.

"Once and for all".....City will not relent until we are cleared and the swamp is drained.

The stakes are high,there will be NO equiviation from City !!
 
halfcenturyup said:
You have almost convinced me to read it. Is it just a description of a football related shared services concept (which would be less interesting for me as I have seen so many of those non-football related in my lifetime), or does it address the development into a broader entertainment group (with things like Sony, for example, or Disney or whoever which would be much more interesting)? Could be worth a read if it's the latter because I reckon that's where the value will be.

What the hell, I'll get the book and read it. Hope it's better than the title :)
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Not read the book so don’t know how much he goes into the Disney stuff as opposed to just a group of football clubs but I think that’s where the phrase Disney of football clubs came from in some of his and other City Execs interviews came from
 
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