PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[cheekybids]

In badly run companies these rights and roles are often found in several systems and sites therefore making it very hard to gauge which accounts someone has used. In more mature environments these rights are assigned using formal procedures with roles which can and should be revoked whenever someone leaves the company.

In this case someone left City, but their account was still there. Even worse, it was still active. A big nono. Therefore City should have had a better procedure for leaving users where all rights and roles are automatically revoked on the last day.

That didn’t happen.

 

[KS55]

Khaldoon needs to create his own media operation.

Paper
Tv
Report it on the socials.

Soon enough the information would get balanced against the legacy media.

On all seriousness, we need to be spreading our innocence on the socials. The rest no one cares about anymore.

I think he already has one. There is an English language newspaper in AbuDhabi, called the National. It is State owned. Nick McGeehan who has written about City very critically once wrote for it. Then he was not bothered about Human rights but changed his tune when the paper dispensed with his services.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The fans of other clubs believed we were cheats long before the charges. The media made sure that was the case. The majority of people have a belief system created by the media. The outcome of a tribunal won't change that, the media will continue to manipulate, cajole and ultimately decide the truth.

He who controls the media, controls the minds of the people
N oam Chomsky

That’s not true at all. The “cheats” narrative started properly at the beginning of last season when the other clubs were deducted points.

 

[johnnytapia]

All I am saying is that there are very naive people in City from owners to fans if you think that strong PR is not needed to take this club forward and make it ti this super club they want it to be.
We have been very lucky to win so much and the moments Aquero, Gundo to promote us but we cant trust that we will be winning all the time, look at this season.

Alot if Liverpool fans went to the CL final without tickets and tried to go insite the statium , thats why the france police did what they did.
The PR macine for Liverpool went into overtime and today it was all on the france police and UEFA.

There are alot of Liverpool fans in Scandanavia, Ireland,UK even though they have only 1 PL title .
It is becouse of PR .

“even though they have only 1 PL title .
It is becouse of PR .” Nah, it’s because of City.

 

[decmancity]

Cr


But…. That’s not what happened. The Liverpool employee when he left City acquired someone else’s login details and used those - not his old City credentials. Demonstrates clear evidence of wanting to hack the system by using login details never issued to them and Liverpool FC were clearly comfortable accessing and using data that clearly wasn’t theirs.

So City did all they could then?

City can't account for the employee guessing that his old mate at City is using Password123.

 

[hammocity]

I have encountered lots that weren't interested and had no clue about it, they spent their time gushing over Rodri, KDB and Haaland.

2-1 to the "average international punter knows little or nothing about 115"

Only the ones we encountered in Dortmund and Amsterdam, I can't speak for anyone else, my post was based on empirical evidence.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The Liverpool one involved the former City employees using an existing enployee's login credentials. I don't know how they got that password (although I'm sure City does) but I do know that the City employee involved was still there a few years later, and may still be. So he wasn't sacked, suggesting he wasn't actively involved in whatever happened. It still puzzles me why we didn't go to the police over this, as it was a clear criminal offence under the Computer Misuse Act.

It’s a slight aside, but to me, that makes the actions of those two individuals far more reprehensible. I think using someone’s login details is such a violation of that individual and exposes them to consequences in way that using another means to nefariously access the database does not.

I expect that individual felt very betrayed and understandably affronted by such a personal breach of trust.

To deploy a workplace analogy, stealing from your employer is one thing, but stealing from your fellow employees when they are at work is another, at least in my eyes.

Absolute fucking lowlife cunts.

 

[Cityfan1977]

“even though they have only 1 PL title .
It is becouse of PR .” Nah, it’s because of City.

what I mean is they are still as popular despite only 1 title

 

[cheekybids]

It’s a slight aside, but to me, that makes the actions of those two individuals far more reprehensible. I think using someone’s login details is such a violation of that individual and exposes them to consequences in way that using another means to nefariously access the database does not.

I expect that individual felt very betrayed and understandably affronted by such a personal breach of trust.

To deploy a workplace analogy, stealing from your employer is one thing, but stealing from your fellow employees when they are at work is another, at least in my eyes.

Absolute fucking lowlife cunts.

To think we settled that left those individuals still employed & then promoted showed piss poor negotiating. They should have been sacked by the Dippers & their reputations in tatters.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

To think we settled that left those individuals still employed & then promoted showed piss poor negotiating. They should have been sacked by the Dippers & their reputations in tatters.

Yes, the club definitely rolled over and had their tummy tickled there.

 

[chocovla]

Only the ones we encountered in Dortmund and Amsterdam, I can't speak for anyone else, my post was based on empirical evidence.

Dutch media is a joke. Nothing but sycophantic journo’s up United and Liverpool’s bum. All about istree and tradition. Compounded by having pundits like Jaap Stam, Dirk Kuyt etc. Also journo’s like Sjoerd Mossou cozying up to Ten Hag because he got inside access for a diary about United’s road to recovery(sic)

It’s always been an uphill battle , and probably won’t change until we get more Dutch players in. One of the idiots at the Volkskrant newspaper even had an entire bit about all Dutch players who play in the Premiership. The complete idiot, Patrick Ijzendoorn, forgot current Dutch international Aké. Not making it up.

 

[asahartford1]

That’s not true at all. The “cheats” narrative started properly at the beginning of last season when the other clubs were deducted points.

In my experience that is not true.

Unless you refer only to the widespread use of the word "cheat"

To use one example I had a conversation with the finance director of WBA at least 5 years ago, he was confident City had fiddled the books consistently since the takeover. He had no personal knowledge, so where do you believe he constructed his truth.

 

[bluemonkey71]

I have been in IT my entire career, working at billion dollar companies and in our most recent round of phishing training. The head of IT security got caught out.

Shit happens, nothing is infallible.

I hope he got reprimanded.
My company turned over 54 billion last year and cloud security is paramount. (No I don’t own it sadly ;) )

If someone has shared their password then they are just plain daft and would be fired on the spot

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Dutch media is a joke. Nothing but sycophantic journo’s up United and Liverpool’s bum. All about istree and tradition. Compounded by having pundits like Jaap Stam, Dirk Kuyt etc. Also journo’s like Sjoerd Mossou cozying up to Ten Hag because he got inside access for a diary about United’s road to recovery(sic)

It’s always been an uphill battle , and probably won’t change until we get more Dutch players in. One of the idiots at the Volkskrant newspaper even had an entire bit about all Dutch players who play in the Premiership. The complete idiot, Patrick Ijzendoorn, forgot current Dutch international Aké. Not making it up.

It’s the same here though and that definitely sets a direction.
Carragher, Neville, Warner, Souness, Keane, Merson, Smith, Wright, Ferdinand, Redknapp, Murphy, Hargreaves, Dublin, Keown, McManaman, Dixon.

All of them played for the 3 red shirted clubs and they push the narrative whenever possible.

 

[hammocity]

Dutch media is a joke. Nothing but sycophantic journo’s up United and Liverpool’s bum. All about istree and tradition. Compounded by having pundits like Jaap Stam, Dirk Kuyt etc. Also journo’s like Sjoerd Mossou cozying up to Ten Hag because he got inside access for a diary about United’s road to recovery(sic)

It’s always been an uphill battle , and probably won’t change until we get more Dutch players in. One of the idiots at the Volkskrant newspaper even had an entire bit about all Dutch players who play in the Premiership. The complete idiot, Patrick Ijzendoorn, forgot current Dutch international Aké. Not making it up.

Great post, validates exactly what I said about the anti City rhetoric outside of the UK, the Ajax fans we spoke to were great lads tbf, a lot younger than us but we had a good chat on the train to Amsterdam, they lived about an hour away but always go to the game or go into Amsterdam to watch their team in a bar.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

The process is the punishment.

Always was. Aided and abetted by by the clickbait media.
Feels like it’s been prolonged as long as possible.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Always was. Aided and abetted by by the clickbait media.
Feels like it’s been prolonged as long as possible.

I think they thought it would break us, or at the very least severely disrupt us.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

are we know doxxing City security staff? what the actual LOL

 

[xgorton]

Dutch media is a joke. Nothing but sycophantic journo’s up United and Liverpool’s bum. All about istree and tradition. Compounded by having pundits like Jaap Stam, Dirk Kuyt etc. Also journo’s like Sjoerd Mossou cozying up to Ten Hag because he got inside access for a diary about United’s road to recovery(sic)

It’s always been an uphill battle , and probably won’t change until we get more Dutch players in. One of the idiots at the Volkskrant newspaper even had an entire bit about all Dutch players who play in the Premiership. The complete idiot, Patrick Ijzendoorn, forgot current Dutch international Aké. Not making it up.

It's all Double Dutch to me.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

You're actually largely incorrect on this.

The Liverpool one involved the former City employees using an existing enployee's login credentials. I don't know how they got that password (although I'm sure City does) but I do know that the City employee involved was still there a few years later, and may still be. So he wasn't sacked, suggesting he wasn't actively involved in whatever happened. It still puzzles me why we didn't go to the police over this, as it was a clear criminal offence under the Computer Misuse Act.

My understanding of the Pinto hack is that it involved an phishing email designed to look like it came from UEFA, which was opened by a senior club official. You can warn people all you like and carry out regular phishing tests, but there's pretty well no way you can guarantee security if someone doesn't carefully check an email address every time before they open it or click on a link.

It showed a big weakness in security. Misusing the scouting data, including that of very young players, is very serious. It would get you sacked in many organisations.