9 | Erling Haaland - 2024/25

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ProofMCFC said:
Still can’t believe we’ve got this guy for the next 10 years, no one would have predicted that 2 years ago. Did I hear that if he carries on at this rate he will score 520+ for City when the 10 years is up, crazy. All timer.
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You’ve got to be realistic and factor in injuries.

Only 519, I’m afraid.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Read some thing today that i couldnt help agree with. Shearer isnt the top flight top scorer. Hes the prem top scorer.
The real title goes to jimmy greaves. 347 top flight goals.
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Dialog said:
That’s a remarkable feat for Greavsie. With Haaland’s extended stay, I want to be here to witness Haaland overtaking him.
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I love Jimmy Greaves but he barely played the same sport. He played in an era that averaged 4 goals a game, compared to 2.7 now which makes comparing them like for like impossible and kinda irrelevant.

Goals were cheaper and less important because there were almost twice as many.

If the point of comparing goal scoring numbers is to judge how good and how dominant a goal scorer someone is then you have to account for that. In his 41 goal season in 1961, Greaves scored 2.4% of the total goals scored in the league that year.

In 20/21 (the season Haaland scored 36) that would be 25 goals.

Or if you wanted to go the other way, Haaland scoring 3.3% of the total goals like he did in his first season would be the equivalent of scoring 59 in 1961.

Same thing with Dixie Deans 61 goal season. It’s not a coincidence that of the 20 top individual goals scoring seasons in English football history that 14 of them were int he 20s and 30s. The best strikers back then weren’t better than the best goalscorers now, they just played in an era when everyone scored a lot more goals.


More generally that’s why drawing a line at 1992 for statistics is useful. A few years either side of 92, a bunch of things happened that add up to the start of the modern game. The offside law came in, back pass law changed the number of goals scored considerably, 3 subs brought in big tactical changes, and the group format European cup established the 60ish game calendar we have today. Maybe most importantly the old foreign player quotients were removed, so the quality of players went up considerably now teams were hiring from all over the world and not just the UK plus 3. The Bosman ruling amplified that again in 95.

So you can just about compare what Shearer and co were doing in the early 90s to what Haaland is doing today. Goals were worth about the same as they are today (2.65/game in 1992 vs 2.7 in 2022) you can’t compare Haaland to Greaves or Dean unless you remove absolutely all context and strip away any meaning from what those accomplishments meant compared to the players around him.
 
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domalino said:
I love Jimmy Greaves but he barely played the same sport. He played in an era that averaged 4 goals a game, compared to 2.7 now which makes comparing them like for like impossible and kinda irrelevant.

Goals were cheaper and less important because there were almost twice as many.

If the point of comparing goal scoring numbers is to judge how good and how dominant a goal scorer someone is then you have to account for that. In his 41 goal season in 1961, Greaves scored 2.4% of the total goals scored in the league that year.

In 20/21 (the season Haaland scored 36) that would be 25 goals.

Or if you wanted to go the other way, Haaland scoring 3.3% of the total goals like he did in his first season would be the equivalent of scoring 59 in 1961.

Same thing with Dixie Deans 61 goal season. It’s not a coincidence that of the 20 top individual goals scoring seasons in English football history that 14 of them were int he 20s and 30s. The best strikers back then weren’t better than the best goalscorers now, they just played in an era when everyone scored a lot more goals.


More generally that’s why drawing a line at 1992 for statistics is useful. A few years either side of 92, a bunch of things happened that add up to the start of the modern game. The offside law came in, back pass law changed the number of goals scored considerably, 3 subs brought in big tactical changes, and the group format European cup established the 60ish game calendar we have today. Maybe most importantly the old foreign player quotients were removed, so the quality of players went up considerably now teams were hiring from all over the world and not just the UK plus 3. The Bosman ruling amplified that again in 95.

So you can just about compare what Shearer and co were doing in the early 90s to what Haaland is doing today. Goals were worth about the same as they are today (2.65/game in 1992 vs 2.7 in 2022) you can’t compare Haaland to Greaves or Dean unless you remove absolutely all context and strip away any meaning from what those accomplishments meant compared to the players around him.
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Now that you’ve laid out just how absurd it is to compare players across different eras, I find myself even more intrigued by the idea of Haaland attempting this ridiculously unrealistic feat. It’s made me even more invested in seeing if he can actually pull it off within the next nine years, with the way the game has evolved. Lol ;)
 
Just can't really understand how he has games where he can dominate CBs and bully them, ones you'd class as big physical lads too. Then go through other games and not get near a single ball played up to him. Needs to work on the consistency of his hold up play and lay offs.
 
sarcastico said:
Took his goal well and seemed hungry in a team that doesn't care anymore.
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FFS we have no fullbacks , one fast attacking player a geriatric midfield. At times his first touch is worse than Eden! We will never get the best out of him without true quality at full back. We need real speed speed, we need real quality.
 
Games like tonight is where we have to be using the different attributes Haaland has. We played the ball into the channels for him once the entire game. He got on the end of that ball, held it up, brought others into play and it lead to one of our better chances all game.

Why did we see how well it worked and how easy it was to do and decide the best option would be not to do that again for the entire game?

Us the elite tools we have instead of ignoring them.

Not Haalands fault. On the manager to instruct the players to use him.
 
We have the most potent striker in years at our club and we don’t know how to play to his skills ha ha only at Man City this could happen .
 
Paul1970 said:
We have the most potent striker in years at our club and we don’t know how to play to his skills ha ha only at Man City this could happen .
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So we totally change the way we play to suit him?
He is part of the problem. His contribution in open play is poor.
His touch and ability to play in tight spaces is not up to it.
 
bluedreamer said:
Better change the manager too then.
Is Sam Allerdice still alive
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Very much so, he’s just about to go back to Bolton. No sign of Pep not playing Erling every week anyway so i don’t see how that has a barring on anything
 
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