President Trump

[The blue phantom]

The rise in the average overall temperature of the planet since the industrial revolution is undeniable. The reasons behind that are not fully understood, but all the data point towards manmade sources.

Nuclear, whilst a better option isn't an instantaneous solution. Nuclear power stations take upwards of 20 years from lying the foundations to full operating capability, and twice as long to decommission once they reach the end of their useful lives.

Rolls Royce SMR'S can be built inside 4 years. Big decision on who gets the Uk contract shortly. They are up against Three American company's

 

[PinkFinal]

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Rolls Royce SMR'S can be built inside 4 years. Big decision on who gets the Uk contract shortly. They are up against Three American company's

Buy British! Not everything is about “cheapest,” and it often isn’t cheaper, anyway!

 

[Streetsweeper]

Climate change is real because the climate changes all the time just as the weather does at least as far as empirical observation goes.

It wasn't that long ago we had an ice age in terms of the history of the planet we inhabit when C02 was much more prevalent in the atmosphere than it is now.

The issue is how do we respond to climate change as the planet has warmed around 1.1 C in the past 150 years at least according to some institutions that are paid big money to as best measure these things ( often disputed by other institutions mind you ) which is nothing compared to variations in temperature over shorter periods of time even in both human and pre human history.

Warmer weather is beneficial to better food production and less deaths on average than colder weather.

Looking at these points in reverse order. Warmer weather in some places is better for food production. If you’re growing grain in Quebec, it probably makes for a more reliable harvest. If you’re trying to grow sorghum or anything else in, say Chad or Mauritania, you’re fucked because what was once fertile land is now desert. As far as health is concerned, I’d be very interested in seeing the data behind that, if you mean hypothermia kills more people than heat illnesses, I’ll take your word for it, but then throw in Malaria, yellow fever, bilhazia, trypanosomiasis all of which are tropical diseases reliant on high temps to sustain vectors, and I seriously doubt it.

In the case of climate change, you make the entirely reasonable point that climate fluctuates and has fluctuated naturally throughout the history of the planet. It has, and the planet has coped just fine - if it can survive an asteroid strike, a 2 degree rise in global temperature isn’t going to send it careening into the sun. It’s a problem with how the issue is framed that you highlight neatly. You mention the recency of the last Ice age - which ended about 12,000 years ago - the blink of an eye in historic terms. If you go back 25,000 the last global ice advance was at its most southerly extent. the largest estimate of the human population for that period that I’ve seen in a peer-reviewed scientific paper for the whole of Europe, Africa and Asia is 8 million people. The current population of the three continents is 6 billion. 25,000 years ago, the Old World population was 0.013% of what it is today. Go back to 125,000 years ago, to the ipswichian interglacial, things were a lot warmer than they are today, and we know this because we found remains of monkeys, jungle cats, and tropical elephants in ipswichian gravel deposits in the middle of London. What we don’t have is any evidence of human occupation in Britain because, it is thought, sea levels rose so fast that human beings, having retreated south during the previous ice advance didn’t migrate north quickly enough to recolonise the UK before the channel and the North Sea cut it off again. All this in a world without New York, Dhaka, Hong Kong, Lisbon, London, Singapore or Tokyo.

Climate change won’t destroy the planet - history shows us that, but what history doesn’t tell us is what happens when climate change impacts a world with billions and billions of people on it and a complex, inter-connected global economy. We need to stop with the ‘we’re killing the planet’ shit and rephrase as ‘we’re probably going to kill a lot of ourselves and make a lot more destitute, homeless and sick’ instead. I remember seeing in the Reform UK manifesto before the last election a section on climate change which was so dumb it was almost satirical but my favourite bit was the inference that everything would be fine because during Roman times it was warm enough to grow grapes in Yorkshire. Of course it conveniently left out the fact that life expectancy in Roman Britain was around 35 and one of the contributors to that was fucking malaria!

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Buy British! Not everything is about “cheapest,” and it often isn’t cheaper, anyway!

Companies usually require a minimum of 3 fully costed quotes when tendering for a project. The company almost always tailors the requirements to ensure the lowest bidder wins the contract, and they almost never get full value for money.

 

[Damocles]

I am not the one who has dementia - meanwhile December 2024

TIME 2024 Person of the year

If what comes next is anything like what he promises, president-elect Donald Trump will reshape the nation and the world.

time.com

It's like watching the same idiots doing the same things over and over again and being genuinely shocked when it doesn't work this time either.

Trump is a power mad dictator who is also a puppet for either the Russian President or Israel or a cabinet or some meme guy while simultaneously having the guile to carefully plan a slow burn takeover of the country into fascism yet also the stupidest man in the world who has dementia.

He's truly everything to everybody. No wonder he won.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

It's like watching the same idiots doing the same things over and over again and being genuinely shocked when it doesn't work this time either.

Trump is a power mad dictator who is also a puppet for either the Russian President or Israel or a cabinet or some meme guy while simultaneously having the guile to carefully plan a slow burn takeover of the country into fascism yet also the stupidest man in the world who has dementia.

He's truly everything to everybody. No wonder he won.

Where were you when Biden was being accused of being both a criminal mastermind and a demented old fool? That’s right — nowhere to be found. So do you pick and choose your accusations of hypocrisy and stupidity as you see fit?

 

[WT86]

Is there a contradiction between being stupid and being dangerous? Pol Pot and Stalin weren't winning any scholarships.

 

[Koniec]

Is there a contradiction between being stupid and being dangerous? Pol Pot and Stalin weren't winning any scholarships.

Was Stalin stupid? He read extensively, wrote lots (Commie bollocks though) and was very politically aware and knew how to manipulate people. He was military inept though. As proven in 1920 and WW2.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Was Stalin stupid? He read extensively, wrote lots (Commie bollocks though) and was very politically aware and knew how to manipulate people. He was military inept though. As proven in 1920 and WW2.

Every podcast bro ’reads extensively.’ It doesn’t mean they’re coming up with the cancer cure any time soon.

 

[Koniec]

Every podcast bro ’reads extensively.’ It doesn’t mean they’re coming up with the cancer cure any time soon.

Depends on what they read I suppose, he definitely didn’t read The Art of the Deal or The DaVinci Code. And no one has come up with a cancer cure, books or not.

 

[WT86]

Was Stalin stupid? He read extensively, wrote lots (Commie bollocks though) and was very politically aware and knew how to manipulate people. He was military inept though. As proven in 1920 and WW2.

I'm sure Stalin was cunning enough but he wouldn't be the first person I'd sit next to on exam day. I remember reading somewhere his books were ghostwritten and the image of him as a thinker was largely propaganda.

Similarly Trump is a shrewd manipulator of people, but most of the time he's outfoxed by Congress and the courts. Most of what he tries to do is DOA.

 

[Koniec]

I'm sure Stalin was cunning enough but he wouldn't be the first person I'd sit next to on exam day. I remember reading somewhere his books were ghostwritten and the image of him as a thinker was largely propaganda.

Similarly Trump is a shrewd manipulator of people, but most of the time he's outfoxed by Congress and the courts. Most of what he tries to do is DOA.

The book The Red Czar is a worthwhile read. He wasn’t stupid but not a genius either. Total **** is my opinion.

 

[KS55]

Fellow loyal American citizens - today I'm pleased to announce that Bluemoon Forum has agreed to cease all fentanyl imports into our great nation. Furthermore, Bluemoon has promised that all American ships passing through the Bluemoon canal on their way to Europe, will traverse free of charge.

Due to these concessions, I am placing the 20% tariff on Bluemoon goods imported to the USA on a temporary pause.

Efforts continue, however, to deport all Bluemoon criminals from our land. To that end, I've now signed an executive order to activate all state militias to cooperate in expelling the Bluemoon criminal element from our sacred land.

Some of them are US citizens now. Nudge nudge.

 

[KS55]

Which part of "you-have-no-idea-whatsoever about climate change" do you not understand?

Let's just for a wild second admit that you nor I are expert in this field - I think we can both agree on this fact.

Then what should we do?

Why - we should consult experts on the matter, of course. Scientists. And we should be careful to apply critical thinking to what we read. What are the motivations of those experts who publish? In what journals do they publish? Were their results peer reviewed? And so on and so forth.

I have a brother who is much like you. Always in doubt of climate change and skeptical of vaccines. He's done extensive "research" into both fields and so he knows what he's talking about. But you know what? He's not a scientist. Not an expert. He's some dude that spends about half his life plugged into Twitter, lapping up story after story by supposed experts that back up his opinion.

And yet, asked to provide a single scientific paper in support of his opinions, he's unable to do so.

Worse yet, my brother is all too ready to spread irresponsible rumor. He sent me some bullshit paper of seemingly scientific credibility about why polar bears are actually expanding in number and that David Attenborough had better brush up on reality - FFS! I was able to quickly google the origin of the paper, and found that it was backed by some right-wing think tank. And I quickly countered with numerous actual science-based articles disproving the paper's assertion. It was all water over a duck's back to my brother.

Hell, he even posted a video on his Twitter account supposedly showing how Georgia election officials were rigging the 2020 election in favor of Trump by tampering with votes. Jesus.
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Look - I'm up for a healthy debate on policy. But I have zero tolerance for denial of fact. And, that's one of my major issues with MAGA - facts do not matter. Science does not matter. Expert opinion does not matter. Make up your own mind, folks on these issues - after all you're just as qualified as scientists/doctors who have spent their entire life studying their field to gain expertise, who are unbiased and who will to change their opinions based on proven data. They're not political, and have no dog in the hunt, except for fact-based truth, wherever that may lead.

And you, mancity111, somehow, magically know better than the experts. In fact, climate change is good. Bring it on. Burn more coal. Only good will come of this - expert opinion be damned!

Laws requiring vaccination are unfair/unnecessary/harmful/whatever. You mancity111 are the one to turn to for truth in this regard as you are much more expert than doctors and health officials.

Btw, the UK used to have compulsory vaccination for children. It was enforced by vaccination commissioners. It was abandoned as not worth the trouble it caused.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Companies usually require a minimum of 3 fully costed quotes when tendering for a project. The company almost always tailors the requirements to ensure the lowest bidder wins the contract, and they almost never get full value for money.

This is why China has been winning. “Tailoring” requirements to help push production away from the home market has a much greater cost to that society than merely paying a pound/Euro/dollar more for that production.

 

[KS55]

And in developing news, he is set to ban paper drinking straws as “they just don’t work” and will be ordering that plastic straws be reintroduced.

Jeez, he’s only been President for a few weeks - we’ve got four years of this madness to look forward to.

What do we NEED straws for?

 

[Vic]

This woman is a breath of fresh air and well worth listening to, I have her book and it’s a compelling read

Sadly I didn't hear that much that brings comfort. "Channel fear into something positive" - e.g. post in a British football forum to try and persuade a couple of American Trumpers that he is a clear and present danger to the world.

And he is. Whether or not you think he's a fascist, what's clear is that no-one could now not understand how Hitler came to power.

 

[Vic]

Just like this. Writing to your local Idaho newspaper ain't enough.

 

[Vic]

I'm sure Stalin was cunning enough but he wouldn't be the first person I'd sit next to on exam day. I remember reading somewhere his books were ghostwritten and the image of him as a thinker was largely propaganda.

Similarly Trump is a shrewd manipulator of people, but most of the time he's outfoxed by Congress and the courts. Most of what he tries to do is DOA.

Most of what he wants to do he's doing.