Away fans / tourists in home sections

[Manc Born & Bred]

Isn’t it all done digitally now so if someone does pass on a ticket the new ticket holder must have a supporter number so you can’t really blame the person passing it on. Even if they did know it was a Liverpool supporter all they’ll say to city is that they thought they followed city because they had a supporter number

And that is why if you do pass it on to someone then you should know who it is tough luck. You 'sell' your SC to a random person who turns out to be an away fan then you are responsible for their behaviour. But in many instances it's the club who are selling directly to anyone who has the money. Look at how many hospitality seats we have to fill, do they think that the club double checks their backgrounds, social media sites, who they work for, home address etc before they sell them an over inflated priced ticket?

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Not sure why people are surprised

We slagged Rags off for not having local fans for years but we have morphed into them

We are customers not supporters or fans anymore

The club, as do others, make more money on day trippers than they do on ST holders

I have followed City throughout the dark days but now do not feel that loyalty is appreciated

We are a different club now

The Football is so much better but the feeling of being a part is not

 

[paulchapo]

I had a similar conversation with a rag mate on Sat night. I think at some point the arse will fall out of the clubs support if that makes sense. The tourists will not turn up in sufficient numbers on a regular basis to compensate. Will be massively exacerbated with any prolonged downturn in performance/results. Matter of time regardless I suspect.

Even now with all the recent success we've had we can't sell tickets for the more mainstream games. Sure on paper we're sold out, but if you can't attend and put your ticket on the exchange it often remains unsold if the opposition aren't a top club.

 

[Winchester]

Not sure why people are surprised

We slagged Rags off for not having local fans for years but we have morphed into them

We are customers not supporters or fans anymore

The club, as do others, make more money on day trippers than they do on ST holders

I have followed City throughout the dark days but now do not feel that loyalty is appreciated

We are a different club now

The Football is so much better but the feeling of being a part is not

Correct

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Not sure why people are surprised

We slagged Rags off for not having local fans for years but we have morphed into them

We are customers not supporters or fans anymore

The club, as do others, make more money on day trippers than they do on ST holders

I have followed City throughout the dark days but now do not feel that loyalty is appreciated

We are a different club now

The Football is so much better but the feeling of being a part is not

Bang on the money. Was always going to happen and is the price of success and becoming one of the biggest clubs in the world.

 

[give it to gordon]

Even now with all the recent success we've had we can't sell tickets for the more mainstream games. Sure on paper we're sold out, but if you can't attend and put your ticket on the exchange it often remains unsold if the opposition aren't a top club.

Yet bizarrely at these mainstream games when buying tickets on the release date in June (I think) you still can't get seats together so from next season we won't be buying any. We haven't enjoyed being sat apart

 

[ell]

Yes they will but he sounds confident that won't happen so cancelling direct debit now will save some money in the short term but cost a lot more in the long term when he doesn't have a season ticket

Don't know his case but they are giving them out for everything nowadays, I know a lad who just got 3 years for calling Liverpool "Murderers"

 

[bert trout mask replica]

The number of tourists attending has increased significantly over recent years, particularly for Champions League games but yesterday it reached new levels - I’ve never seen so many half and half scarfs wearers in the East Stand for a league match and the number of those photographing the Liverpool fans celebrating at the end was absolutely galling.

 

[Bozzie]

Errrm this is not my recollection of 50yrs ago! Me and mates went to Anfield Boxing Day 1974 (age 14). Anfield Road end was carnage, City were shit (4 down at half time I think but could be wrong as I was concentrating on staying alive). 2 mates left at HT, one was cornered, battered to a pulp and hospitalised for a week. I managed to get back to Lime Street but then me and about 20 Blues were chased to a small hotel where we were barricaded in til Merseyside’s finest sent 2 policewomen in a mini to hold off the baying mob. Managed to get in the back gate of Lime Street to be met by a Blue with a compass (the drawing circle kind) embedded in his back. Made the train which lost most of its windows in the first 10 minutes. Nobody had a laugh.
For some reason I’ve never really like those Scouse scamps since (My prejudice obviously, not their fault)

Enjoyed reading your post Shanghai. Boxing Day 74 was also my first ‘Anfield Experience’. Fortunately, at age 15, me and my mate were far quicker off the blocks than we are today and managed to outrun the bastards. One of them knocked my mates Grandad over in the car park after the game. Despite trashing us they were still baying for blood and thus started my life long hatred of the red Scouse.

 

[pride in battle]

This season is the first time I've started to waiver on just how disillusioned I've become with the club. Going to every home game and seeing more and more tourists, and more and more away fans in our end, is getting all a bit...shit?

Winds me up.

Our fans are to blame as well, season ticket holders picking and choosing games

 

[blue44]

Even now with all the recent success we've had we can't sell tickets for the more mainstream games. Sure on paper we're sold out, but if you can't attend and put your ticket on the exchange it often remains unsold if the opposition aren't a top club.

Thats where the ticket prices come in, a lot of our local fans can't afford or they're not prepared to fork out the high price of a ticket, if i didn't have a seasoncard,i wouldn't pay the ticket price for most games,excluding the fa cup and league cup.

 

[beehive_bob]

Saw an older guy with a half and half scarf getting a few choice words directed at him near the toilets in the concourse of SS1. The seat next to me was taken by a lad who started filming the Liverpool fans celebrating their first goal. It's getting worse, sadly.

 

[Bantamgaz]

Sorry but these tourists shouldnt be anywhere nesr a game or the very least have there own plastic sections .......... if you dont get that sitting in a home end and celebrating a goal for the other team is wrong then you deserve all you get

 

[pride in battle]

Bang on the money. Was always going to happen and is the price of success and becoming one of the biggest clubs in the world.

So you want us to get to back being shit ? Unfortunately that's the price of success...

 

[Franny 1234]

What us English fans xant get our heads round is tourists who don't support any individual premier league team. But spend fortunes on attending any premier league games.
Their premier league football fans with no attachment to any club.
My Turkish barber chooses a different team to watch each gameweek.
It's bat shit crazy I know. CTID

 

[bluemooncas]

I’ve been thinking a lot about the situation with City recently, and it’s becoming clear that the rise in tourist fans and away supporters filling up the home end is starting to have a real impact. The cost of season tickets and match tickets keeps rising, and it's making it harder for the traditional supporters—those who have been with the club through thick and thin—to afford to attend games. It feels like the atmosphere is changing, and it’s not for the better.

The problem is, if the team ever experiences a decline, there might be no one left to fill the stands. Tourists and casual fans who are only there for the spectacle are less likely to keep coming if City’s results take a dip. Meanwhile, long-time supporters who have been priced out or feel alienated by the shift in the fanbase could decide to stop coming altogether.

What happens then? The stadium could be left three quarters full, with a disinterested crowd, which would really hurt the overall atmosphere. It’s not just about the winning—it’s about the energy, the connection between the fans and the club, and the history that’s built into every match. If those traditional fans aren’t there, and the tourists leave when the team struggles, where does that leave us?

It feels like the club needs to find a way to balance the global appeal that comes with success with keeping its roots intact. Otherwise, we risk losing what makes the matchday experience so special in the first place.

 

[Citi-leaks]

Look I know what’s going on is shite. But in my opinion if we were going into yesterday’s game 8pts clear at the top there would have been less tickets floating about for tourists and Liverpool fans to pick up. I bet a lot fucked the game off because of what’s going on,on the pitch.

Before Pep and before ticket exchange we had loads of season card holder on tickets that were priced very reasonable and they wouldn’t turn up to the less fashionable games and seats were left empty and that’s how we got the piss taken out of us with the emptihad.

Real Madrid and Liverpool home games turned out more like a day out at Alton Towers or the Trafford Centre. Once that happens, there's no turning back. As we saw with the Prawn Sandwich brigade 20 years ago. The hardcore fans were replaced by corporate packages and day trippers who will pay a 100 quid for a seat. No club in the world is turning that money down.

Maybe the peaks and troughs of success and failure is what retains a fan base identity, as the tourists drop off and the hardcore re-claim their seats again.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Why don’t City sell their own scarves for matches like the half-n-halfers do? Just have a normal City scarf with the date of the game and the name of the opponent printed on it. They could sell shirts printed with the details on too, like an FA Cup final memorabilia shirt.

They’re missing out on a massive income stream here. £25 scarf, £150 shirt in a nice box.

 

[Franny 1234]

Not sure why people are surprised

We slagged Rags off for not having local fans for years but we have morphed into them

We are customers not supporters or fans anymore

The club, as do others, make more money on day trippers than they do on ST holders

I have followed City throughout the dark days but now do not feel that loyalty is appreciated

We are a different club now

The Football is so much better but the feeling of being a part is not

I've said many times in different threads.
Fans don't exist anymore were customers from the clubs point of view.
Every premier league club is the same.
Successful ones are popular so obviously exploit us more. CTID

 

[adopted_manc]

On the back of threads re whole rows of non City fans attending games................Sat in my usual seat in the Colin Bell stand and saw the bloke in the picture with an Arsenal hoodie on! Me and my son are getting increasingly fed up of the amount of tourist fans attending games! They rock up at about a minute before Kick Off, stand around blocking your view taking selfies, then can't find their seat! Seems the club are increasingly more interested in revenue than die hard, born and bred View attachment 147809fans that stuck with the club through the dark times!

The fact that they show up just before the match starts (or even later) and that they don't even have basic skills (like recognising letters of the alphabet on the stairs, despite having expensive mobile phones) annoys me to no end.

Sadly, the club seems to think they ought to have a place in the stadium (they certainly bring more money than I do), so it's rapidly going downhill...