Away fans / tourists in home sections

[give it to gordon]

I agree with that. The difference is that Birmingham really were the real thing, an absolutely fearsome mob, who didn’t need to be attacking normal supporters. Villa have always wanted to be Birmingham in that sense, the epitome of wannabes, trying to prove something, hence you have always had a higher risk factor at Villa as a normal non hooliganism fan. Let’s not forget a Villa bloke in his forties assaulting a kid at Wembley after our League Cup win against them, sums them up.

Birmingham is the only time I have experience problems travelling to the Etihad. From Birmingham upwards we would get Birmingham fans in cars and coaches giving us hand signals and mouthing abuse at us. The only time I wished I had taken my City stickers of the car !.
We took of our City gear when using the service stations.
I remember the police helicopter flying around as the match was going on. Walking back to the car after the match, some Birmingham fans were covered in blood and seemed to be wanting to fight anyone even themselves lol.

Never had it that bad before or after when travelling to matches.

 

[Spurs quarter 69]

To be honest you're arguing against something that I haven't said, and I wouldn't disagree that Villa have usually boasted the bigger crowds apart from the mid 70s when Birmingham were relatively more successful

My original point was in response to somebody suggesting that Birmingham wouldn't bring thousands to the ETIHAD for a one-off cup match.

They would, because that's the exact nature of their support

A near relative of mine was a Govenor and veteran of battles with Chelsea,Millwall, Leeds etc. He always reckoned the top firms per capita were Middlesboro and especially Birmingham. Always found there fans sound when I've met them on holiday etc, however back in the early 90s they smashed Blackpool to pieces.

 

[TheGhost]

Birmingham is the only time I have experience problems travelling to the Etihad. From Birmingham upwards we would get Birmingham fans in cars and coaches giving us hand signals and mouthing abuse at us. The only time I wished I had taken my City stickers of the car !.
We took of our City gear when using the service stations.
I remember the police helicopter flying around as the match was going on. Walking back to the car after the match, some Birmingham fans were covered in blood and seemed to be wanting to fight anyone even themselves lol.

Never had it that bad before or after when travelling to matches.

The Zulus had a big day out at the Etihad a few years ago. A very big turn out of all their old ‘faces’. I think they tried to attack Mary Ds.

Apparently they were formed for a trip to Maine Road back in the 80s.

 

[TheGhost]

It's not point scoring to state facts.. regardless of what you say 39 people died because of the feral cunts.
It shouldn't ever be forgotten JFT39

I don’t think anyone can fail to forget Hillsbrough or Heysel. The real forgotten tragedy is Bradford in 85. But there isn’t the tribalistic rivalry with Bradford.

 

[TheGhost]

You could have a break from defending the indefensible. Chappie has introduced a bit of humour after you served up the opportunity

What are you accusing me of defending?

 

[Gone for a Burton]

The Zulus had a big day out at the Etihad a few years ago. A very big turn out of all their old ‘faves’. I think they tried to attack Mary Ds.

Apparently they were formed for a trip to Maine Road back in the 80s.

They got smacked all over ANR after the match.

It was some sort of anniversary.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

I don’t think anyone can fail to forget Hillsbrough or Heysel. The real forgotten tragedy is Bradford in 85. But there isn’t the tribalistic rivalry with Bradford.

A pure accident.

Sheffield & Hysel were causual !!

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Sounds like they're saying "shut up and go away"

The Sam Lee article that just came out was talking about how people wearing away colors in home areas were asked to cover them up and move elsewhere

So the club aren't even kicking these people out when they're identified. Pretty obvious they aren't taking it seriously

Plyms are well advised not to venture into home areas tomorrow.

City fans are well pissed off with it and will handle the ejections themselves if necessary.

Be warned Plyms.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

250 bought tickets...wow

.....saved em a slapping .

City fans are sick of this shit.

Plyms would be well advised not to try it ....it won't end well.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

They got smacked all over ANR after the match.

It was some sort of anniversary.

They were treating it as the 25th anniversary of the birth of the "Zulus"
It was 07/08 and according to their hooligan books it had all started at Maine Road after the goalless draw in 82-83

 

[Gone for a Burton]

I agree with that. The difference is that Birmingham really were the real thing, an absolutely fearsome mob, who didn’t need to be attacking normal supporters. Villa have always wanted to be Birmingham in that sense, the epitome of wannabes, trying to prove something, hence you have always had a higher risk factor at Villa as a normal non hooliganism fan. Let’s not forget a Villa bloke in his forties assaulting a kid at Wembley after our League Cup win against them, sums them up.

Zulus....the deal & fought with other mobs.

Villa...chickenshitters after kids women,oldies & scarfers !!

BC FC could be like City if they had development land and a multi billionaire owner with long term vision.

A bit of a comatose big club !!

 

[BringBackSwales]

A near relative of mine was a Govenor and veteran of battles with Chelsea,Millwall, Leeds etc. He always reckoned the top firms per capita were Middlesboro and especially Birmingham. Always found there fans sound when I've met them on holiday etc, however back in the early 90s they smashed Blackpool to pieces.

Who didn’t?

 

[BringBackSwales]

They were treating it as the 25th anniversary of the birth of the "Zulus"
It was 07/08 and according to their hooligan books it had all started at Maine Road after the goalless draw in 82-83

And funnily enough the 25 year anniversary one was goalless too (I only remember it cos it was my youngest’s first game, aged 2, got the Zulu reunion!)

 

[Gone for a Burton]

I think it’s pretty poor taste to use the death of 39 people in a shitty tribal football point scoring exercise on the internet.

Think what you will and the facts will speak for themselves.

136 people killed a dippers matches....let that sink in !!

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Strangely considering their hooligan reputation I have always found the Birmingham fans ok during numerous trips to St Andrews unlike their arrogant rivals at Villa.

Zulus would fight any mob.

Vanilla pick on kids,women, scarfers,oldies.....full weight chicken shitters !!

 

[mancityvstoke]

Zulus would fight any mob.

Vanilla pick on kids,women, scarfers,oldies.....full weight chicken shitters !!

and first to run away even numbers

 

[Gone for a Burton]

and first to run away even numbers

....only after the chicken shit rags.

As the ones on Bengal St !!

 

[mancityvstoke]

....only after the chicken shit rags.

As the ones on Bengal St !!

Utd only ever scrapped anyone if they outnumbered them 40 to 1 or it was blokes with kids or non scrappers.

 

[blue by birth]

I don’t think anyone can fail to forget Hillsbrough or Heysel. The real forgotten tragedy is Bradford in 85. But there isn’t the tribalistic rivalry with Bradford.

Bradford was a terrible tragedy.. accidental too..remember getting back from us winning promotion at Maine Road and it was showing the fire in the stands.
Couldn't believe what was happening..it's a day that should be remembered
R.I.P to all those that lost their lives

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I'm assuming that it's an age thing but for the benefit of those who don't fully understand why some of us older supporters despise the media narrative surrounding Liverpool and their previous misdemeanours

Just read the first few paragraphs

"In the absence of a complaint"