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west didsblue said:
I’m sure a few will be designated for Slovakia as well ahead of a new alliance forming comprising the US, Russia, North Korea, Belarus, Hungary and Slovakia, with Iran joining the group soon.
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It seems bizarre to ask but Trump's treachery means it must be asked. Was that a serious thought?
 
Vic said:
It seems bizarre to ask but Trump's treachery means it must be asked. Was that a serious thought?
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One of my first memories of "news" was the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956. What's happened in Hungary to see them elect a pro-Russian leader? (If it's immigration you'd think there would be people there who had been Hungarian refugees in 56 - maybe they never went back.)
 
Vic said:
It seems bizarre to ask but Trump's treachery means it must be asked. Was that a serious thought?
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Not totally serious but the fact that it’s almost plausible would have been seen as absolutely ridiculous not too long ago.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
That’s the primary reason Dax voted for Trump but he won’t say it publicly for fear of ridicule. You do not want to read his anti-abortion posts.
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I'm not entirely sure Dax does support Trump.
If you can leave the emotions aside, his posts come across as somebody using this forum to practice his job.
He has mentioned his past history in politics. So i'm sure he is well aware what Trump is and his intentions.

So at least for me, i feel he is just using people here to "learn" how to defend the impossible. Trump is just a useful tool.
Part of the reason he has been on ignore from the start.
 
Vic said:
One of my first memories of "news" was the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956. What's happened in Hungary to see them elect a pro-Russian leader? (If it's immigration you'd think there would be people there who had been Hungarian refugees in 56 - maybe they never went back.)
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I have no idea why but the four Hungarian lads in work are all pro Putin, rabbidly so.
Arguments have very nearly turned physical a few times.
Very different to the Polish people i work and socialise with
 
fulabeer said:
I'm not entirely sure Dax does support Trump.
If you can leave the emotions aside, his posts come across as somebody using this forum to practice his job.
He has mentioned his past history in politics. So i'm sure he is well aware what Trump is and his intentions.

So at least for me, i feel he is just using people here to "learn" how to defend the impossible. Trump is just a useful tool.
Part of the reason he has been on ignore from the start.
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If this were true, he would be active now defending the impossible, but he has gone to ground and is posting on football threads only.
P.S. He has managed to start a bit of a row about Haaland. Quelle surprise.
 
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I'm not the biggest fan of Seder... nonetheless I found this video, in which Sender debates 20 MAGA supporters, quite interesting.


Among the debates, we see MAGA fanatics argue that:
* Government agencies pay taxes
* Climate change is A-OK, and we'll be easily able to cope with the consequences
* America was founded by whites and white nationalism is both ideal and aligns with the intent of America's founding fathers.
 
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bluethrunthru said:
fucking deranged

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Amongst all the chaos and lies it's becoming increasingly difficult to work out what their endgame is. What the f**k does this cast of crazies and criminals want?

Trump has pissed off Mexico, Canada, most of Europe and now Australia, to what end? Six weeks in is America stronger? If not what is the path to this stronger America? Seriously, if these are the first steps on a longer journey I can't see it.

Trump babbles on about globalists and forcing them to bring production back to the USA, threatening them with tariffs one day, then "temporarily" backing down the next. Another day, another day of manufactured crisis and uncertainty, it's a madness, it's all becoming a blur.

Where is he going with this?
 
The perfect fumble said:
Amongst all the chaos and lies it's becoming increasingly difficult to work out what their endgame is. What the f**k does this cast of crazies and criminals want?

Trump has pissed off Mexico, Canada, most of Europe and now Australia, to what end? Six weeks in is America stronger? If not what is the path to this stronger America? Seriously, if these are the first steps on a longer journey I can't see it.

Trump babbles on about globalists and forcing them to bring production back to the USA, threatening them with tariffs one day, then "temporarily" backing down the next. Another day, another day of manufactured crisis and uncertainty, it's a madness, it's all becoming a blur.

Where is he going with this?
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>> Where is he going with this?
This is trivially easy to answer.
* Trump thinks that tariffs are great, especially so because tariffs against Chinese imports during his first term in office still stand
* So Trump's baseline solution to any perceived economic slight (he looks at trade imbalances as his sole metric) is going to be tariffs. If the US has a trade imbalance with any foreign nation, boom! Tariff.
* Trump is a narcissist. He thrives on adoration and success. If the stock market and opinion polls take a dive due to his tariffs, he'll quickly retreat. Only to try another round of tariffs a little while later.
* So where is he going with this? - easy. Tariffs and more tariffs, quickly withdrawn as the market and polls react. In other words, complete economic chaos, since no company/enterprise can reliably plan for the future.
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
I'm not the biggest fan of Seder... nonetheless I found this video, in which Sender debates 20 MAGA supporters, quite interesting.


Among the debates, we see MAGA fanatics argue that:
* Government agencies pay taxes
* Climate change is A-OK, and we'll be easily able to cope with the consequences
* America was founded by whites and white nationalism is both ideal and aligns with the intent of America's founding fathers.
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That woman. "Isn't it better to be xenoohobic?"

My God, I feel for you, mate. You're dealing with some serious fruit loops over there.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
>> Where is he going with this?
This is trivially easy to answer.
* Trump thinks that tariffs are great, especially so that his tariffs against Chinese imports during his first term in office still stand
* So Trump's baseline solution to any perceived economic slight (he looks at trade imbalances as his sole metric) is going to be tariffs. If the US has a trade imbalance with any foreign nation, boom! Tariff.
* Trump is a narcissist. He thrives on adoration and success. If the stock market and opinion polls take a dive due to his tariffs, he'll quickly retreat. Only to try another round of tariffs a little while later.
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I get why he does it, he does it because he can, he gets a slap and backs down, then after a bit he does it again.

So there's no destination, just wired in chaos.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Amongst all the chaos and lies it's becoming increasingly difficult to work out what their endgame is. What the f**k does this cast of crazies and criminals want?

Trump has pissed off Mexico, Canada, most of Europe and now Australia, to what end? Six weeks in is America stronger? If not what is the path to this stronger America? Seriously, if these are the first steps on a longer journey I can't see it.

Trump babbles on about globalists and forcing them to bring production back to the USA, threatening them with tariffs one day, then "temporarily" backing down the next. Another day, another day of manufactured crisis and uncertainty, it's a madness, it's all becoming a blur.

Where is he going with this?
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He doesn’t know. He hasn’t the foresight to see the endgame. He has a planning horizon of two days.
 
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