Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

[dadnlad]

Why can't they build it else where in Trafford Park at less expense
I dont get it Trafford Park is full of tin huts easy to relocate

 

[yerwot?]

The canal has no purpose, no cotton industry, no chemical industry, no iron/steel industry, too shallow for container ships, the heavy metals in the silt prevents dredging. Leisure craft hampered by the fees for locks and moorings, To include it as a factor in the development is pure bullshit

 

[Gone for a Burton]

:D
I will post my questions once complete and will welcome suggestions I have over 30 already

Good man !!

 

[Gone for a Burton]

I'm convinced you're a UAE bot. Who from Manchester says math.

Ha ha to both*

In Denton we say 'bath, path, laff and math'.

You need to get out more.

* What the hell is a 'bot' ?

 

[Oldtraffordblue1]

Some else posted that the rags say the entire project has the potential to create 92,000 new jobs, will involve the construction of 17,000 homes and bring an additional 1.8 million visitors to the area annually. They add the project will be worth an additional £7.3bn per year to the UK economy." That's an additional £7.3bn per year which works out at approx. £140m per week, £20m per day.

Can someone breakdown how the figures will be achieved, where will the 92k jobs come from, will they be temporary or permanent and what has been the figure that the regeneration around the Etihad been worth to the region?

Also if no public money will be spent on the stadium how much will be spent on other areas of the project. Who will be paying for the land they want to build the stadium on?

The 92k is described as job opportunities whatever that means - post a job on Indeed one week post it again the next is that 2? What sectors coming to TP will produce half those jobs (AI more advanced in 5 years than now)? On their model are there 60 ish buildings holding say 250 apartments each to get to this 17,000 homes and is there space for all these along with all the work places to get to their 92k? Maybe the largest number of jobs will be abroad from low paid workers putting the lego set together, how many workers did it take to build the great pyramid!

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Ho much do we spend on illegal immigrants and asylum claims? Are there figures? How does that compare with cost of northern infrastructure? Is what you are saying real?

(Some of) the annual costs will be available on government sites.

For example, the guy who illegally entered the country in a bike rack on a camper van,is currently being 'housed' in a hotel and fed/watered by your tax pounds.

He may also be receiving other benefits (NHS treatment) at your expense in addition to incuring costs for administration and supervision, having contributed NOTHING !!

Meanwhile the couple whose van he illegally stowed/entered in have been sanctioned with a £1500 fine.

UTTERLY LUDICROUS !!

For him, multiply by 1000s & 10 years and it'll be very big number.

 

[jrb]

If you think how long it’s taken City and MCC to get the Etihad Campus, including the CFG, to where it is now, with the Collar site still not started, this model of the wider United and TBC proposal at MIPIM - Manchester is absolute pie in the sky.

 

[mexico1970]

If you think how long it’s taken City and MCC to get the Etihad Campus, including the CFG, to where it is now, with the Collar site still not started, this model of the wider United and TBC proposal at MIPIM - Manchester is absolute pie in the sky.




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[Oldtraffordblue1]

If you think how long it’s taken City and MCC to get the Etihad Campus, including the CFG, to where it is now, with the Collar site still not started, this model of the wider United and TBC proposal at MIPIM - Manchester is absolute pie in the sky.

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I know it's a pile of shit it's so accurate they haven't even got my block on the model!

 

[Mr Fraser]

(Some of) the annual costs will be available on government sites.

For example, the guy who illegally entered the country in a bike rack on a camper van,is currently being 'housed' in a hotel and fed/watered by your tax pounds.PLEASE PROVIDE A REFERENCE AND PROOF

He may also be receiving other benefits (NHS treatment) at your expense in addition to incuring costs for administration and supervision, having contributed DITTO

Meanwhile the couple whose van he illegally stowed/entered in have been sanctioned with a £1500 fine. THIS APPEARS INTHE PUBLIC DOMAGIN


For him, multiply by 1000s & 10 years and it'll be very big number. PLEASE PROVIDE EVIDENCE OR STOP POSTING RACIST LOW QUALITY STUFF

 

[cheekybids]

Calling it out for what it is!

 

[shnaghaicityfish]

(Some of) the annual costs will be available on government sites.

For example, the guy who illegally entered the country in a bike rack on a camper van,is currently being 'housed' in a hotel and fed/watered by your tax pounds.

He may also be receiving other benefits (NHS treatment) at your expense in addition to incuring costs for administration and supervision, having contributed NOTHING !!

Meanwhile the couple whose van he illegally stowed/entered in have been sanctioned with a £1500 fine.

UTTERLY LUDICROUS !!

For him, multiply by 1000s & 10 years and it'll be very big number.

I though we agreed, when you couldn’t work out how many seats were needed for 3000 away fans, that you weren’t very good at mathS?!

 

[surrounded by idiots]

The 92k is described as job opportunities whatever that means - post a job on Indeed one week post it again the next is that 2? What sectors coming to TP will produce half those jobs (AI more advanced in 5 years than now)? On their model are there 60 ish buildings holding say 250 apartments each to get to this 17,000 homes and is there space for all these along with all the work places to get to their 92k? Maybe the largest number of jobs will be abroad from low paid workers putting the lego set together, how many workers did it take to build the great pyramid!

I believe the max number of workers on our North Stand extension is about 700, so to then imagine 92,000, I'm sensing complete and utter bollocks

 

[kismet]

How much did the Manchester City council get out of Moss side area and ground plus Platt lane that City owned and used as a deal, Then City had to build a completely new stand and drop the playing service by lifting the running track,

We never got it for free ? did we, and a deal is a deal and not a gift

Sport England wanted it built for the games, for a cost of £110m. Sport England paid £77m. We gave them Maine Road and Platt Lane whose value was roughly £45m so we paid the balance effectively. The council paid £30m towards help convert and we paid similar at the time. Subsequently we must have paid £500m in maintaining it, building 2 new stands and the Sheikh has paid another £1 billion enhancing the whole area. Glazers have paid zero and now are hoping Burnham and the Govt will bail them out .

We didnt get given a new stadium, it was 3 sided stands with a fields events in the middle for javelin, shot put, long jump etc .It was essentially a running track and no north stand. We paid for it to be converted. The council have received circa £80 m in rent so they have done very well and we have helped maintain the mini running track stadium near the co-op arena, the indoor track, the indoor tennis centre, and other facilities when nationwide they are being closed down eg at Don Valley Sheffield.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Calling it out for what it is!

Stop the world I want to get off.

All the points made on here. Another one who is reading Bluemoon, these days.

I won't repeat all the points again, but it's up to people like us to make sure we keep these politicians and billionaires, and their management consultants, honest. Although as we can't even speak with one voice on ticket prices I suppose there isn't much hope of that happening.

 

[kismet]

This is a valid question that they are glossing over one that I will included in my FoI request

Burnham the shit has announced the removal of the Freight Terminal at a cost of approx £300m and that is paid for from public funds. Expect the whole area transformation to get close to £1billion......incredible

 

[kismet]

Greater Manchester Spatial Project had plans for hundreds of thousands of new homes in the area.
To actually hijack part of the plans to claim that this project will create 17000 new homes is again manipulation of the truth.

Charlatans

 

[BlueTG]

“The community and economy of Manchester has significantly benefited from Manchester City’s lease of the stadium” would have been more accurate.

 

[cheekybids]

Stop the world I want to get off.

All the points made on here. Another one who is reading Bluemoon, these days.

I won't repeat all the points again, but it's up to people like us to make sure we keep these politicians and billionaires, and their management consultants, honest. Although as we can't even speak with one voice on ticket prices I suppose there isn't much hope of that happening.

They think the general public are thick but the numbers are astounding & when you have to lie so badly then you know it doesn’t stack up. It’s fraud.

1st thing is the comparison with the regeneration of East Manchester. A 60k stadium, 24k arena, Etihad campus, 4star hotel. Surely the wise investment would be to piggy back on that than try & build the same in another location a few miles away. You’d at least ask how many billions are they making?

The government should be looking & saying good idea but why there? Why not North East or midlands?

 

[Gray]

(Some of) the annual costs will be available on government sites.

For example, the guy who illegally entered the country in a bike rack on a camper van,is currently being 'housed' in a hotel and fed/watered by your tax pounds.

He may also be receiving other benefits (NHS treatment) at your expense in addition to incuring costs for administration and supervision, having contributed NOTHING !!

Meanwhile the couple whose van he illegally stowed/entered in have been sanctioned with a £1500 fine.

UTTERLY LUDICROUS !!

For him, multiply by 1000s & 10 years and it'll be very big number.

If that had happened to me there is no way In would pay the fine.