While this is true, it wouldn't hurt to look into the culture and customs of a country you're visiting simply for the fact that something that is perfectly acceptable in your own country may not be in another, and that goes for anything really not just for sports spectating.Thinking more about the actions of the american after the liverpool goal, I don't think the argument that he shouldn't have been taking photos of liverpool fans is a fair defence.
If I go to America and watch a hockey or American football game while I'm over there, I have no idea what the etiquette is when the home or away team do whatever the equivalent of score a goal is.
I'm guessing the American had never been to a football match over here before so would be a similar situation to me watching a tampa bay buccaneers match.
Joining a pile on of dozens against one or two is no integrity. Get your dictionary out.No I've got integrity instead. You should try that rather than sucking off the club while other Blues sre trying to help everyone.
Possibly but maybe he didn't.While this is true, it wouldn't hurt to look into the culture and customs of a country you're visiting simply for the fact that something that is perfectly acceptable in your own country may not be in another, and that goes for anything really not just for sports spectating.
Always better to be safe than sorry.
Yeah, it was a weird situation. There was a lot more to it.Thinking more about the actions of the american after the liverpool goal, I don't think the argument that he shouldn't have been taking photos of liverpool fans is a fair defence.
If I go to America and watch a hockey or American football game while I'm over there, I have no idea what the etiquette is when the home or away team do whatever the equivalent of score a goal is.
I'm guessing the American had never been to a football match over here before so would be a similar situation to me watching a tampa bay buccaneers match.
And when people insisting tourists are a problem creates a problem, those people conveniently forget they insisted tourists are a problem.You were insisting that tourists were a problem at City.
Did you report them ? I ain't got a problem if they don't celebrate but if they do they should be ejected.I can assure you that the many many surrounding me who cheered like lusty sailors when the scousers scored their first most definitely were not blues.
Weird blues having a pop at blues by supporting Liverpool supporting tourists.
Did you report them ? I ain't got a problem if they don't celebrate but if they do they should be ejected.
People complaining about scarfs ??? It's embarassing ! Banned ? WTF !This might seem a silly point, but I think City should stop the sale of half and half scarves on the stadium footprint. I have been following this discussion for a while and I have noticed that they are being sold by sole traders at places like the end of the bridge that approaches the stadium. On a FA Cup day, or CL night these sell like hot cakes because people want to be involved imo. It sows confusion. I want the Etihad to be a strongly identified with Manchester City so I know where people are coming from. But at the same time I am a bit concerned that the argument comes across as hostile to other communities in Manchester. There are certainly a lot more Asians coming to City than ever before which is a good thing, but I wish that they wouldn't buy up the half and half scarfs because that creates a barrier with City's existing fanbase. But children with families do this too. I have been watching closely. You see kids at an FA Cup game, we want them as fans for the future. Very often they have a half and half scarf but I love to see them happy when City win, as I hope they will come back again. The idea is to grow City's fanbase. Somehow something that is positive is being turned into a negative.
I like many of the posters who have a different point of view on this. We can disagree without insulting each other.
Fucking bullies...end offI don't think the reaction is that strange. If you aren't familiar with the tribal spectacle of football, even if your allegiances are for city, it feels like a fairly natural reaction. The club have been strangling season ticket numbers for years because they feel they can get more out of occasional fans than loyal ones. They are to blame, not the people who take them up for it.
He was asked why are you filming Liverpool fans in our end, are you a Liverpool fan ? He said no i like City but i like salah too.Yeah, it was a weird situation. There was a lot more to it.
It wasn’t a case of him getting his phone out then a lynch mob immediately formed and battered him.
He got his phone out, two blues called him out on it. He started arguing back, they were getting in each others faces. There was pushing and shoving. I couldn’t hear what was being said. Then after a good minute or two someone lamped him and then the gremlins came out for the easy pile on.
What happened was wrong, I’m not justifying what happened, but if I was in a situation where I don’t really understand the culture and I’m getting shit for something off ‘the locals’ I would take it on the chin, apologise and brush it off as a misunderstanding. He didn’t, he engaged and ended up in a really dangerous situation.
The pile on afterwards was disgusting and some of the idiots who hit him are little shithouses.
17.9% believe matchday ticket prices are just right?
Fucking hell.
I'm going to be a "tourist" at Dortmund in a few weeks and sitting with the Dortmund fans. I won't be filming Leverkusan players, wearing a Leverkusen shirt or celebrating if they score. I will be joining in with the Dortmund fans and celebrating if they score. I don't think tourists are an issue if they are happy to be part of the home fan experience, there needs to be a level of being able to visit another stadium and taking in a game without taking the piss.
The point of Flexi-gold was for people like you, and others I know, who simply can't do a significant number of games. You could keep your seat but only go to the games you wanted to, without the need to sell or list your ticket on the exchange.
The club could have made extra revenue by selling an increased number of seats at the full price if someone hadn't taken up their ticket. Instead they took the opportunity to be greedy and rip people off.
I felt quite betrayed by the way they corrupted my original proposal, which was designed to give them a better solution for no-shows, into a blatant money-making scheme that completely ignores the original objective. That's the point at which the scales fell from my eyes and I saw them for what they really are.
City are a growing club. We need more supporters, particularly as we will have a 62k stadium and we might not be so successful in the futureI think part of the tourist phobia comes from we know the club prefer them over us because they spend more and secondly we all know they will fuck off if we ever go back to being shite, the more tourists that come the more they increase the tickets because whilst we are successful they can always replace us but once you piss that supporter off enough he jacks it in it's gonna be very difficult to win him back if times go hard
Spot on. Most of us have been a football tourist at some point. I’ve done it myself a few times but one thing I wouldn’t do is go twerking for the opposition team. If the 4 of us - 3 blues and 1 red - who went to see 1860 Munich play Ingolstadt in 2008 then the chances are we would’ve got tuned in. That of course doesn’t excuse the incident against Liverpool - in any case I’m sure he didn’t get attacked because he was an American tourist and it was because people mistakenly thought he was a Liverpool fan (which of course doesn’t make it right either) because he was filming their fans celebrating - but it’s advisable to be aware of your surroundings.I'm going to be a "tourist" at Dortmund in a few weeks and sitting with the Dortmund fans. I won't be filming Leverkusan players, wearing a Leverkusen shirt or celebrating if they score. I will be joining in with the Dortmund fans and celebrating if they score. I don't think tourists are an issue if they are happy to be part of the home fan experience, there needs to be a level of being able to visit another stadium and taking in a game without taking the piss.
We've got our regular support squeezed by prices and a layer of new fans around us of varying levels of affinity. Instead of dealing with the ticket prices and availability we're getting distracted by ideas that can be hostile towards people perceived as foreign.And when people insisting tourists are a problem creates a problem, those people conveniently forget they insisted tourists are a problem.
The 1894 survey asked the question about what people thought the biggest problem was. It wasn't prices or availability of season tickets, but (and I quote) "away fans/tourists/non-City fans in home ends". And most people thought that was the biggest problem.
This is the result of the hysteria being whipped up and 1894 can't refuse to take responsibility for assisting that, by including that very loaded question.