Russian invasion of Ukraine

Long but very informative thread on overall front line situation.

Short version: Most of the frontline is fairly stable and likely to remain so.

 
Germany have seized a Russian tanker with €40m worth of oil on board.
Norway to send $8 billion worth of aid,including military aid to Ukraine.
Huge step up from Norway.

Slava Ukraini.
At what point does it mean war between these countries too, or even the EU? Genuine question.
 
At what point does it mean war between these countries too, or even the EU? Genuine question.
Russia has been killing Russian Oligarchs who have fled Putin (does folks falling downstairs or falling out of windows ring any bells?)
They have poisonined folks on British streets with Polonium and Novichok.
They've paid for arson to be committed all over Europe - there is evidence thst they were responsible for burning down a warehouse on East London with supplies to Ukraine. Warehouses in Poland Germany and elsewhere too.
There is also evidence they tried to kll the CEO of Getman defence giant Rhinemetal.
They commit cyber attacks all the time on our infrastructure and businesses.
The reality is we are already at war with Russia - to a far, far, far higher level than we ever were in the Cold War.
 
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Most major incidents around (re Heathrow, remember the Buncefield fire?) are caused by cockup, not sabotage. We know nothing whatever about the cause of this yet AFAICT, speculation is pointless.
Pointless... but fun.
I wonder if it's aliens They are testing our resilience.

If we can't cope without Heathrow, how would we cope with a Mothership hovering over London ?

Am I right ?
 
Russia has been killing Russian Oligarchs who have fled Putin (does folks falling downstairs or falling out of windows ring any bells?)
They have poisonined folks on British streets with Polonium and Novichok.
They've paid for arson to be committed all over Europe - there is evidence thst they were responsible for burning down a warehouse on East London with supplies to Ukraine. Warehouses in Poland Germany and elsewhere too.
There is also evidence they tried to kll the CEO of Getman defence giant Rhinemetal.
They commit cyber attacks all the time on our infrastructure and businesses.
The reality is we are already at war with Russia - to a far, far, far higher level than we ever were in the Cold War.
Appreciate the response and context.
 
their much awaited meeting will be in flames ;}

"When the president (Trump) was wounded, Putin went to his local church, met with the priest, and prayed for the president.Putin had a friendship with him, and that’s why he prayed for his friend.Putin gifted Trump a personalized portrait created by russia’s finest artist.The U.S. considers the recognition of territories occupied by russia a 'key issue.'Donbas and Crimea, both russian-speaking regions, held referendums where the majority expressed their desire to be under russian governance.Ukraine has agreed to hold presidential elections with a confirmed schedule." - Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special representative for russia relations.
 
their much awaited meeting will be in flames ;}

"When the president (Trump) was wounded, Putin went to his local church, met with the priest, and prayed for the president.Putin had a friendship with him, and that’s why he prayed for his friend.Putin gifted Trump a personalized portrait created by russia’s finest artist.The U.S. considers the recognition of territories occupied by russia a 'key issue.'Donbas and Crimea, both russian-speaking regions, held referendums where the majority expressed their desire to be under russian governance.Ukraine has agreed to hold presidential elections with a confirmed schedule." - Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special representative for russia relations.

Trump just a mouthpiece for Putin's propaganda at this point.

"Referendums" btw that Trump intends to learn from when future US elections are held.
 
their much awaited meeting will be in flames ;}

"When the president (Trump) was wounded, Putin went to his local church, met with the priest, and prayed for the president.Putin had a friendship with him, and that’s why he prayed for his friend.Putin gifted Trump a personalized portrait created by russia’s finest artist.The U.S. considers the recognition of territories occupied by russia a 'key issue.'Donbas and Crimea, both russian-speaking regions, held referendums where the majority expressed their desire to be under russian governance.Ukraine has agreed to hold presidential elections with a confirmed schedule." - Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special representative for russia relations.
What’s all that about, some parody chat?

Trump ‘wounded’?
 

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