PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[RodneyRodney]

Soon..

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

Sorry, thought this was the PL Charge City for Alleged Breaches of Financial Rules thread.

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[invisibleandalone]

Gives me shivers down my back bone every time I hear that !!!!

 

[oakiecokie]

But how do you know that was the case, that we stopped working with the PL?

He doesn`t chester he`s just chatting shit and wants to be noticed.He`s been asked to prove it and he can`t.

 

[halfcenturyup]

He doesn`t chester he`s just chatting shit and wants to be noticed.He`s been asked to prove it and he can`t.

Tbf to the guy, nobody can prove anything because it's all been heard second or third hand. We should all just take it that way.

Of course, it would be better to say "I've heard the club stopped co-operating" rather than "the club stopped co-operating" and "I've heard the club doesn't have the judgment yet" rather than "the club doesn't have the judgment yet". But we are where we are with social media these days.

Personally, I think the most interesting thing we have heard recently is the shift in opinion from @slbsn from (paraphrasing) "we will hear the liability judgment and then wait for any sanction" to this: "I'd say the only outstanding question on this is whether we get the liability decision released before any sanction hearing (if any) and if so whether it has any redaction of note. There is a chance that the reasoned decisions are both held back to be released upon the conclusion of the sanction decision. I think this is what the FA did in the recent Nottingham Forest case."

If that is right, and it makes sense to me, we all still have a very long wait.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Every time you post I think of Kenny Senior.

Pseudologia Fantastica (Pathological Lying):

Pathological Lying: Telling elaborate and often fantastical lies, not for any apparent gain, but for the sake of the story itself.

Outlandish and Unbelievable Stories: Creating narratives that are highly improbable or impossible.

Difficulty Distinguishing Truth from Fiction: Struggling to separate reality from the fabricated stories they create.

Portraying Themselves as Hero or Victim: Often presenting themselves as someone of great importance, or as a victim of circumstance in their stories.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I think you need to check your maths

On a constantly moving set of numbers? I’ll pass, but regardless, the “point” stands…we are rapidly approaching 10,000 pages and 100,000 posts, are we not?

 

[HelloCity]

"We're shit, and we're sick of it" used to get sung regularly. Hardly the stuff of fans and club being bonded.

But during Pearce, Pellegrini's last two years, and this season, people have become indifferent. Apathetic. Which is arguably worse than toxic.

Can’t believe the Pearce time just got ranked alongside Pellegrini and the year after winning 4 in a row under Pep with comment that it’s even worse than the toxic time of Maine Road…

Haha!!

 

[cheekybids]

Pseudologia Fantastica (Pathological Lying):

Pathological Lying: Telling elaborate and often fantastical lies, not for any apparent gain, but for the sake of the story itself.

Outlandish and Unbelievable Stories: Creating narratives that are highly improbable or impossible.

Difficulty Distinguishing Truth from Fiction: Struggling to separate reality from the fabricated stories they create.

Portraying Themselves as Hero or Victim: Often presenting themselves as someone of great importance, or as a victim of circumstance in their stories.

I knew fellas like that when I was in Nam ;)

I got an idea though from the Kenny Senior clip. When Pep has his press conference we just need someone sat with him reading a paper saying Daniel did it.

 

[PaulPowerScreamer]

Every time you post I think of Kenny Senior.

"Bonnie Langford, nearly broke her back!" - Nick L, probably

 

[Damocles]

As of today the club have not been given the verdict.

Are you calling FBloke a liar who invented inside information for social media clout?

 

[Gazza]

What the fuck do you know about it, motherfucker ? Spill.

In the latest development we entered 1970s US cop World.

 

[slbsn]

But that doesn't mean we will be found guilty.
If the PL asked for city to give them access to every email ever sent, every text message sent and every piece of paper stored at the club, city would have been well within their rights to say no and the IC would back city up on that

I doubt we “stopped cooperating” whatever such definitive statement means. It’s also the case that any disclosure requests would still have to have been related to documents in City’s possession, relevant and proportionate. I don’t believe any PL rule compelled the production of literally every item relating to any broad “fishing expedition” request. But we will see how it dealt with in the decision. For those really interested the Nottingham Forest decision sets out what is considered exceptional cooperation so you can work back from that. The relevant rule book for City will be 2018/19 (ie the one when the investigation started).

 

[DJBusinesscake]

It’s you stating a fact. But either way it’s a poor post, because what you should write is “in my opinion it’s definitely a barm”, to make it clear to everyone you’re talking shite.

Btw, what about the other question I asked you earlier on? I case you’ve forgotten it, it was “how do you know?”

How do I know what? Think you've replied to the wrong person lol, I know nothing, proudly I might add.

 

[Damocles]

I was told by a few people, but it's not to hard to accept that, that would be the case, whether that's enough to classed as non cooperating remains to be seen, either way if that's all they have on us then it's happy days.

To be clear, you were "told by a few people" that City purposely decided to break Premier League rules that would knowingly get them sanctioned?

Yeah alright mate

 

[slbsn]

I was told by a few people, but it's not to hard to accept that, that would be the case, whether that's enough to classed as non cooperating remains to be seen, either way if that's all they have on us then it's happy days.

"Stopped" implies the club were complying and then stopped. When did the "few people" say the position changed? Because the PLs allegation is City never cooperated.

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

I’m not gonna say how. But @slbsn knows how.

Morning @slbsn does Billy’s claim about City not being in possession of the verdict tally with what you’ve heard in recent days?

 

[Coatigan]

Tbf to the guy, nobody can prove anything because it's all been heard second or third hand. We should all just take it that way.

Of course, it would be better to say "I've heard the club stopped co-operating" rather than "the club stopped co-operating" and "I've heard the club doesn't have the judgment yet" rather than "the club doesn't have the judgment yet". But we are where we are with social media these days.

Personally, I think the most interesting thing we have heard recently is the shift in opinion from @slbsn from (paraphrasing) "we will hear the liability judgment and then wait for any sanction" to this: "I'd say the only outstanding question on this is whether we get the liability decision released before any sanction hearing (if any) and if so whether it has any redaction of note. There is a chance that the reasoned decisions are both held back to be released upon the conclusion of the sanction decision. I think this is what the FA did in the recent Nottingham Forest case."

If that is right, and it makes sense to me, we all still have a very long wait.

If that were the case, the wait would then by default mean charges were viable.

 

[.db.]

So we either know or we don’t know
Who knows

I reckon about half a dozen people in the world know.

 

[DJBusinesscake]

Is the idea now that us nobody's won't know anything until a suitable 'sanction' or 'punishment' has been decided upon? So we'll get the news of the verdict and punishment at the same time however this will ages away? And if so does this blow any chance of us 'completely clearing our name'?