President Trump

Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Absolutely no way I'm even logging in for them. They can (politely) fuck off.

They either require a warrant, or probable cause that you have either committed or are in the process of committing a crime to be able to carry out a search of your electronic devices.
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There's an exception for searches at the border, in the US and in many other countries. They don't need a warrant, and the general consensus is that they don't even require reasonable suspicion. That policy predates Trump but I'm sure he's ramped it up.
 
WT86 said:
There's an exception for searches at the border, in the US and in many other countries. They don't need a warrant, and the general consensus is that they don't even require reasonable suspicion. That policy predates Trump but I'm sure he's ramped it up.
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In the 10 years I've been travelling to the USA (and now temporarily living here) I've not once been asked to see any of my tech, bar one time I was asked to prove my laptop turned on. I suspect since Jan 20th 'inspections' have gone through the roof.

I just presume they know everything anyway. If you are fearful of reprisals from the government for expressing an opinions, you are no longer in a free country.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
In the 10 years I've been travelling to the USA (and now temporarily living here) I've not once been asked to see any of my tech, bar one time I was asked to prove my laptop turned on. I suspect since Jan 20th 'inspections' have gone through the roof.

I just presume they know everything anyway. If you are fearful of reprisals from the government for expressing an opinions, you are no longer in a free country.
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When I traveled more for work I would take an older, factory reset phone with me so I didn't have to worry about explaining anything to Chinese border control or whatever. I might start doing that again not because I'm concerned about X foreign country, but because I don't want to get into it with some guy at the TSA about why I have so many texts about wanting Trump to drop dead.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
By all mean's I'll turn it on to prove it works, but the data on it is mine, and they have no reason to see it.
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But then you don't get in the country.
If you go to Australia and they ask to see your messages in any form, email, texts whatever, if you refuse to show border staff your messages you will not be allowed entry.
Obviously they do not ask every single passenger but if they suspect you are there to work etc you can refuse all you want, right until you are boarding the next flight back to where you came from
America is the same.

It's always gone on, this isn't a Trump thing.
 
Blue Mist said:
But then you don't get in the country.
If you go to Australia and they ask to see your messages in any form, email, texts whatever, if you refuse to show border staff your messages you will not be allowed entry.
Obviously they do not ask every single passenger but if they suspect you are there to work etc you can refuse all you want, right until you are boarding the next flight back to where you came from
America is the same.

It's always gone on, this isn't a Trump thing.
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The difference is Australia won't throw you into a concentration camp without any legal representation and let you stew for weeks in a hellhole.

Increasing numbers of countries are advising their citizens to avoid travelling to the USA. The UK is one of them.

I'm sorry to piss on your chips, but it is a Trump thing. The world is turning its back on the USA, and it matters not one jot if you can't see the reasom why? We can.

The USA is rapidly turning into a facist state, and I don't know of any other free nation in the world that would refuse entry into their country because their border force officials deem any slight criticsm of their Glorious Leader on mobile devices a terrorist threat.
 
The Head of the Department of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, is running DHS adverts warning migrants to leave now, before they get caught and they’re still eligible to come back, but if caught and deported they’re never coming back. That’s the premise, but it’s really a “Trump is our Fearless and Glorious Leader” Infomercial paid for by taxpayer dollars!!




Talk about waste, fraud and abuse!!!
 
Blue Mist said:
But then you don't get in the country.
If you go to Australia and they ask to see your messages in any form, email, texts whatever, if you refuse to show border staff your messages you will not be allowed entry.
Obviously they do not ask every single passenger but if they suspect you are there to work etc you can refuse all you want, right until you are boarding the next flight back to where you came from
America is the same.

It's always gone on, this isn't a Trump thing.
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As I said earlier, in the 10 years I've been coming here, I've not once been asked by a border official if they can inspect my electronic devices apart from one time when I was asked to prove my work laptop would turn on. None of my friends and colleagues have either.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The Head of the Department of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, is running DHS adverts warning migrants to leave now, before they get caught and they’re still eligible to come back, but if caught and deported they’re never coming back. That’s the premise, but it’s really a “Trump is our Fearless and Glorious Leader” Infomercial paid for by taxpayer dollars!!




Talk about waste, fraud and abuse!!!
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“If you are considering entering America illegally, don’t even think about it.”

Surely if you’re considering it, then you are already thinking about it ffs.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
So far, there has been a lot of “cause,” discussed, but not a lot of “effect” being felt. Sure, there are pockets of people here and there, but not a NATIONAL issue that has been felt across the country. It’s so deviously brilliant to pick people off in small groups across a massive nation.

Towards this end, I have yet to have a single friend or acquaintance tell me they are personally directly affected by the fuckwittery yet. The closest is a guy who works for the National Academy of Science, who is concerned about grant monies, but not yet heard of any withdrawal of grants. His wife works at the World Bank and they live in DC, so he’s probably closest to ground zero. In addition, both teachers I know as close personal friends recently retired…because the school system/administration became too bad to deal with! But, that was a local control issue, not DoEd.

It feels a little bit like a neutron bomb is being dropped, but the blast radius hasn’t hit “America” yet…but we know it’s coming!
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I was just in the US for a couple of weeks and two people I know told me they have a friend or family member fired from the federal government. Plus my in-laws have members of their extended family who will be affected by the loss of TPS for Haitians. And my parents-in-law will be vulnerable to social security and/or medicare cuts, and my brother-in-law, who is disabled, to cuts in Medicaid. I think the effects of his bullshit are already mounting.
 
WT86 said:
There's an exception for searches at the border, in the US and in many other countries. They don't need a warrant, and the general consensus is that they don't even require reasonable suspicion. That policy predates Trump but I'm sure he's ramped it up.
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Yep, including the UK too unfortunately.
 
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