PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Chris in London]

It drags on and on and on....

Probably looking for a 'Get out' for Masters.

He'll be unemployable without one.

I think we all agree there should be a “get out” for Masters.

 

[johnny crossan]

But that’s logically correct but the problem isn’t following logic. People dismiss it nudging their glasses with a smirk on their face saying hah, maths says it can’t happen because of a limitation,but fundamentally missing the fact that in an infinite amount of time an infinite amount of beings will do literally everything that could ever happen. It’s not logical nor conclusive because infinite has no conclusion. They’re just as likely to type gibberish as they are Shakespeare because In an infinite amount of time both will happen

When you last picked up your mug of tea that was indeed a factual event. There is no logical reason you will ever repeat this action - i.e. it is not logically 'necessary'. Willard Van Orman Quine has a lot to answer for but unfortunately he's dead.

 

[CoventryBlue]

Maybe. So what?

"Following orders" - deary me

Call it what you want. In the era of click-bait journalism, of course people like Conn write to a narrative. You seem to see good faith in all their work and maybe have a very high bar for "proof" of them writing untruths

 

[slbsn]

1. No. If you live in such ratified air where you can be coy about things you dont want on a public forum then you can extend that privilege to others. We know many of the same people in this fanbase, I'm sure they'll fill you in if youre interested enough

2. Anti-City means you are negative towards the club. Selling them up the river means you are performatively against the club when it is financially or socially prudent for you to do so. These are absolutely not the same thing. One is a permanent state of being, another is a temporary state of being for personal benefit.

As the example I originally gave in myself. Im clearly not anti-City. But if Sky Sports want to pay me a million quid a year to sit in a Sky studio and do the Uncle Tom routine of how we've lost our soul since Hughesey left and the evil Arab cheaters corrupted us then I'd do that because I'd quite like to be paid a million quid a year.

There's a fundamental difference between those two things.

Didn't realise it was some confidential story - apologies.

The issue with this generally is that, in my view/experience, nobody is offering any City fan any money to be anti City for pay. So as I say paranoid nonsense. Taking all the media coverage far too seriously.

 

[johnny crossan]

(1/27)^n where n is the number of characters in your text of choice if we assume English and include spaces and exclude all other grammar symbols

Appreciate the definition of n but I'm afraid the significance of (1/27)^ escapes me.

 

[chiswick blue]

Strikes me that a good annoucement time is post the international matches but before the next PL round of games (if the verdict is available). Nice gap post tonight for fall out to be absorbed

 

[CoventryBlue]

Didn't realise it was some confidential story - apologies.

The issue with this generally is that, in my view/experience, nobody is offering any City fan any money to be anti City for pay. So as I say paranoid nonsense. Taking all the media coverage far too seriously.

Not in the sense of "here is £1 million quid, jump ship" but if you're someone like Conn or Pitt-Brooke and are looking to write a book, they'll be making a commercial decision of what to write and who to target. It's no secret there's more anti-city punters out there than pro

Not a city fan but Delaney has done it with his state-owned book, he's completely uninformed but knows what sells

 

[slbsn]

Is it true?

I think you'll find I was the first person to explain it wasn't but he doesn't have to believe me. Other views are possible.

 

[TheGhost]

Right.......wtf is going on in here? Is everyone off work?

This is a common mistake made by many blues, in fact I heard someone quoting Godel incorrectly last week in the bogs at Mary Ds. The fact is, mathematics provides many ways to describe infinity (e.g., set theory, ordinal numbers, cardinal numbers). Gödel’s results do not prohibit the study of infinity but rather show that within a given formal system, there will always be undecidable statements about infinite mathematical structures. This naive misrepresentation of Godel probably started around the time of the ADUG takeover, circa 2009.

The bloke on the mic in D’s…

“If you can’t do infinity proper shut yer mouth”

 

[slbsn]

Not in the sense of "here is £1 million quid, jump ship" but if you're someone like Conn or Pitt-Brooke and are looking to write a book, they'll be making a commercial decision of what to write and who to target. It's no secret there's more anti-city punters out there than pro

Not a city fan but Delaney has done it with his state-owned book, he's completely uninformed but knows what sells

Delaney and Harris believe this stuff as much as Conn does. Being a City fan as a child is irrelevant and money is not the driver to their views. They really believe this stuff. It is really not that hard to believe they believe this stuff.

 

[mexico1970]

I think you'll find I was the first person to explain it wasn't but he doesn't have to believe me. Other views are possible.

Journalists should check the shit they write or they are not journalists, you'd agree with that mate.

If a journalist checks something and writes in good faith that they researched what they wrote instead of subjectively smearing a target then we should assume they are doing it for a reason.

 

[searsleftpeg]

I’d reduce that to 3 minutes, just to be safe.

Sorry mate I replied in the wrong place. (94977).
It always seems rude not too.

 

[slbsn]

Journalists should check the shit they write or they are not journalists, you'd agree with that mate.

If a journalist checks something and writes in good faith that they researched what they wrote instead of subjectively smearing a target then we should assume they are doing it for a reason.

They are entitled to have another view and to write it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I think you'll find I was the first person to explain it wasn't but he doesn't have to believe me. Other views are possible.

For your own sake, never go into the media thread on here.

Any journalist that isn’t Martin Samuel is 100% anti-City and the rest of the thread is who can make the nastiest name for them.

 

[M18CTID]

Maybe. So what?

"Following orders" - deary me

To be fair, when the Der Spiegel stuff first came out Conn was on record as saying he didn't think there was much to it but then dramatically changed his tune as time went on, to the point that he was utterly scathing of the club and doubling down even in the wake of the CAS verdict going our way.

Conn's nowhere near as thick as some other journalists when they're spouting shit about our club and as such I doubt such negativity towards us would've been purely down to his own views. In other words, I reckon he was being paid by his employers to write negative articles about us.

 

[HelloCity]

Didn't realise it was some confidential story - apologies.

The issue with this generally is that, in my view/experience, nobody is offering any City fan any money to be anti City for pay. So as I say paranoid nonsense. Taking all the media coverage far too seriously.

Nobody has said individuals are specifically being paid to be negative about City. It's more a case that as part of someone's existing employment and pay package, someone may be asked to put a negative spin on something relating to City.

I don't think that's stretching in any way. Nearly all media outlets have their own agendas - it's not paranoid nonsense. It's literally how media works across all walks of life. Do you not think Fox News has an agenda to promote MAGA and demonise any opposition?

You only have to look at the Sky Sports app half the time to see it used as a promotional tool for United. By that same token, there may be some outlets which are more negative about City than others - I'm sure at some point a City fan has been asked to put out something or say something they'd rather not.

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

Strikes me that a good annoucement time is post the international matches but before the next PL round of games (if the verdict is available). Nice gap post tonight for fall out to be absorbed

Have you not heard ? No announcement will be made until we hit 10k pages on this thread, so we need everyone to chip in... how about Eccles cakes v those wretched sickly insipid looking Chorley cakes, invented when someone wanted to make Eccles cakes but didn't have enough ingredients....

 

[City Raider]

Didn't realise it was some confidential story - apologies.

The issue with this generally is that, in my view/experience, nobody is offering any City fan any money to be anti City for pay. So as I say paranoid nonsense. Taking all the media coverage far too seriously.

So, in your experience, compared with other clubs, the coverage of city is fair? Not a loaded question.

 

[mexico1970]

They are entitled to have another view and to write it.

But if that view is based on no research whatsoever it deserves nailing to a wall, if they are pushing a biased narrative then people have every right to call them out and not be labeled conspiracy theorists surely?

 

[mancboy]

Didn't realise it was some confidential story - apologies.

The issue with this generally is that, in my view/experience, nobody is offering any City fan any money to be anti City for pay. So as I say paranoid nonsense. Taking all the media coverage far too seriously.

Tbf its not about offering money to be explicitly anti city for pay its more about journalists knowing what drives website traffic and clicks, many journalists have openly admitted that negative city stories drive more website traffic and create more clicks and as a famous wrestling promoter and tv exec once said controversy creates cash, so while there may be no implicit monetary incentive for journalists to create anti city narrative they will know what moves the needle and creates the cash and will write and publish accordingly.

I think even the most balanced city fan and ardent media supporter would struggle to create an argument where the media take on this over the last two years hasnt been overwhelmingly slanted towards the narrative of city are guilty and what will happen when they are punished.