CL QF 2nd leg chelsea (A) Thu Mar 27th 20:00

If we refuse to invest properly in a real attempt to compete this will continue to be the result as we are now learning from the men after a couple of inauspicious transfer windows. You simply cannot stand still whether you like or loathe the financial and corporate interests involved, and personally I'm beginning to side with the latter.
 
BBC coverage is full on…. No mention of City missing key players or only being only to muster 5 subs. As a few have said… game too far for a depleted squad who’ve played all four games, Chelsea have been able to rest players and rotate. Lessons have to be learned, a decent coach needs to be hired, but also we need a deeper squad and a manager capable of rotating a squad and getting the best out of them. Season pretty much over now - let’s just hope we can beat the Rags, although that would only mean the chance to lose to Chelsea again.
 
No disgrace losing to Chelsea, they are on a completely different level to City
 
blue whippet said:
Real were really poor, they didn't turn up at all, arsenal battered them really. Given our thread bare team I will be hopeful if we can get a goal. We might just hang on then, esp if we keep a clean sheet for 70+ mins.
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I was hoping we'd get the first that would put CFC under pressure, a resorting to strong arm and one sent off, but I never thought we'd have lost the tie inside 45 mins. I should think that any MCWFC manager would have Shaw and Hemp as his first picks. I wonder what Cushing would have done with the squad had he coached them for a season.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
I was hoping we'd get the first that would put CFC under pressure, a resorting to strong arm and one sent off, but I never thought we'd have lost the tie inside 45 mins. I should think that any MCWFC manager would have Shaw and Hemp as his first picks. I wonder what Cushing would have done with the squad had he coached them for a season.
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If's, buts and maybes. We definitely missed a few of the injured players Shaw, Hemp and Greenwood being the most obvious. It will be difficult for the remaining team members to put in an energetic performance on Sunday.
I can't help but wonder where we would be if the coach had changed at the start of the season either.
I feel like we have fallen further behind a few teams now, we have to make the right decisions in the summer regarding the team manager.
 
Not sure that wasnt anything we didnt expect tbh - Im surprised it was only 3-0 given our absences.

Lets look at the bare facts - we were down at least 5 who would have started that game in Hemp, Greenwod, Shaw, Yamashita, Fujino...and you could argue 6 with Knaak as well. Of that group 3 are generally accepted to be our very best players too in Hemp (5 months out), Greenwood (4 months), Shaw (in/out regularly now).

Weve sacked the manager at a really odd time so had a new man in managing on the fly at the business end. Chelsea are much better than us, sadly the truth but they have a deeper, better squad and are much more professionally run and committed to success than we are in the Womens game.

Forget the league this season - any chance of a top 3 finish disappeared last month. The season is on (hopefully) 2 FA Cup games. To have any chance in that comp we need some of the above mentioned players back. If some of those players arent back for the United semi-final then we will sadly get beat then too.
 
bluemoon32 said:
No disgrace losing to Chelsea, they are on a completely different level to City
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Yep - even with the injuries I think the last four games have shown that we cannot build a really top team with a midfield of Yui, Roord (who since her injury looks hesitant to make a tackle and drive forward), Park and Coombs.

Yui is quality.
Big call on Jill as her performances have been hit and miss since her ACL and her position is key to us controlling a game.
Jess is more of a forward thinking player and in the middle gets caught out of position time and again.
Laura is sadly not the player she once was which is why she has only had a few games.

Yes our defence looked so poor without Alex and Rebecca. I think Laia has her head in Spain and we don't have a quality left back at the club. But it really is in the middle we get exposed because you cannot expect Yui to be the only true midfielder to contain any of the best sides. Theresa has her work cut out to rectify that and it kind of shows that recruitment has been unbalanced.
 
Never going to happen but I’d love to see us get Olga Carmona for the left back position. Attacking quality left sided defender who would change our attack down the left side. Her and Hemp would be some duo
 
injuries have killed this team, it is unfortunate, but with Taylor gone the future looks a lot brighter.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Yet, I’m not hearing how boring the Women’s game has become with Chelsea winning everything and Arsenal doing so well every year and buying the top talent to get deep in the CL!

Hmmm…?!
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To be fair, your men's team has generally blitzed the league and set records left, right, and centre, including many you have taken from us. (Chelsea)

In contrast, our women's team has a chance to win this season's WSL by more points than the total combined winning points margins over the last five seasons. We have won those titles, but we have squeaked them by a combined margin of only 5.1 points, barely 1 point per season. The so called domination of CFCW is nothing compared to what Man City men have achieved. Also it's an undeniable factor that way, way, more people notice what City men are achieving, than is the case with CFCW.

P.S. Chelsea men once held many of the single season Premier League records including; total points, most wins, successive wins, and goals scored. I was proud of those records but all we have left now thanks to your lot are clean sheets and goals conceded. Mind you I'll be stunned if the goals conceded record of 15 is ever beaten.
 
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blue whippet said:
Real were really poor, they didn't turn up at all, arsenal battered them really. Given our thread bare team I will be hopeful if we can get a goal. We might just hang on then, esp if we keep a clean sheet for 70+ mins.
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I fully expected Arsenal to beat Real. We (Chelsea) played them in the group stages, played poorly in the home fixture and very poorly away, but won both games anyway. If the draw had been kinder there might have been three WSL teams in the semi-finals.
 
Lee the Blue said:
Not sure that wasnt anything we didnt expect tbh - Im surprised it was only 3-0 given our absences.
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Maybe it would have been if it wasn't for our absences. :)

In his pre match conference, Nick Cushing made the absolutely fair point that you were without your starting centre forward, your starting left winger and your leading centre back. Nick spoke the truth, and in doing so was perhaps building the messaging he wants club executives to hear and do something about. The thing is however that Chelsea were also without our starting centre forward, our starting left winger, and our leading centre back, for these games.

Granted, Girma has only played a few minutes for us but the player who would have started at CB instead of her is also out with an ACL injury. Worse, the two young CBs aiming to develop into WSL players also missed these fixtures through injury, one long term and one short, so we are currently down to just two fit CBs.

It isn't known if Hannah Hampton would have played these matches or not. She and 'Zee' Musovic were rotating in goal until Zee announced her pregnancy which ruled her out. The club brought in a senior keeper to replace Zee but that keeper promptly got injured too and is out of contention. This is why we needed to bring in Spurs' backup goalie as emergency cover. In midfield, Sophie Ingle would certainly have played a part in these four games if it wasn't for her knee injury.

I think City fans are fully entitled to bemoan their bad luck with injuries. City's manager is too but City's executives are not. Despite an almost equally tough injury list, Chelsea seem to have better cover for Sam Kerr, Guro Reiten, and Natalie Girma, than City do for their absent stars. There is no good reason for that.
 
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Lee the Blue said:
Not sure that wasnt anything we didnt expect tbh - Im surprised it was only 3-0 given our absences.
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I think your players have to find the motivation to give everything for the remainder of the League season. Achieving Champions League qualification is essential for the standing of the club and for the prospects of recruiting the calibre of player you are all saying you hope to see brought in. If necessary, this concentration on a top three finish should include resting players in the FA Cup semi-final.

The seven point gap between you and United looks bigger than it probably is. Beating them yourselves is essential and non-negotiable. Winning that game cuts the gap to four. You, and more importantly your squad, have to believe that United are at risk of dropping at least four points in their fixtures against Arsenal and Chelsea. I suppose it's possible that we (Chelsea) might field a rotated side against United but Arsenal could very well need to go full strength in that game.

If you take 15 points from your remaining games you have a very good chance of making the top three. Failure will demotivate your existing players, might dissuade any who are thinking of joining you, and boosts United's chances of getting the recruits they want in the summer. Champions League qualification has to be priority number one for City now.
 
Bridgejunky said:
Maybe it would have been if it wasn't for our absences. :)

In his pre match conference, Nick Cushing made the absolutely fair point that you were without your starting centre forward, your starting left winger and your leading centre back. Nick spoke the truth, and in doing so was perhaps building the messaging he wants club executives to hear and do something about. The thing is however that Chelsea were also without our starting centre forward, our starting left winger, and our leading centre back, for these games.

Granted, Girma has only played a few minutes for us but the player who would have started at CB instead of her is also out with an ACL injury. Worse, the two young CBs aiming to develop into WSL players also missed these fixtures through injury, one long term and one short, so we are currently down to just two fit CBs.

It isn't known if Hannah Hampton would have played these matches or not. She and 'Zee' Musovic were rotating in goal until Zee announced her pregnancy which ruled her out. The club brought in a senior keeper to replace Zee but that keeper promptly got injured too and is out of contention. This is why we needed to bring in Spurs' backup goalie as emergency cover. In midfield, Sophie Ingle would certainly have played a part in these four games if it wasn't for her knee injury.

I think City fans are fully entitled to bemoan their bad luck with injuries. City's manager is too but City's executives are not. Despite an almost equally tough injury list, Chelsea seem to have better cover for Sam Kerr, Guro Reiten, and Natalie Girma, than City do for their absent stars. There is no good reason for that.
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Agree but if Taylor was still in charge do you think he would have got away with that excuse.
I'm not a Taylor fan by the way.
The defending was shocking in the first half.Nothing to do with players being out no matter how good they are.
 
Bridgejunky said:
To be fair, your men's team has generally blitzed the league and set records left, right, and centre, including many you have taken from us. (Chelsea)

In contrast, our women's team has a chance to win this season's WSL by more points than the total combined winning points margins over the last five seasons. We have won those titles, but we have squeaked them by a combined margin of only 5.1 points, barely 1 point per season. The so called domination of CFCW is nothing compared to what Man City men have achieved. Also it's an undeniable factor that way, way, more people notice what City men are achieving, than is the case with CFCW.

P.S. Chelsea men once held many of the single season Premier League records including; total points, most wins, successive wins, and goals scored. I was proud of those records but all we have left now thanks to your lot are clean sheets and goals conceded. Mind you I'll be stunned if the goals conceded record of 15 is ever beaten.
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Also it simply isn't true that people haven't voiced concerns about Chelsea's dominance. People are very bored of it and worried about it being too predictable year in year out.

I think the main difference is though that in the men's, the narrative is "city outspend everyone, it's not fair, it has to be stopped" (which is entirely untrue anyway). Whereas in the women's I think people are less critical of Chelsea because they feel it's the other clubs who ought to be stepping up and matching Chelseas investment in the game.
 
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