Bournemouth (A) - FA Cup | Post Match Thread

mancboy said:
Twatwell was just making it up as he went along, there was one incident when there was a clear pull bk on one of our players, he went to blow and then played advantage and then failed to go bk and book the player, its just flagrantly ignoring the rules
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Pretty sure that was Semenyo. Then the ref spoke to him later in the game after another foul from behind but still no booking
 
The ref was poor, Khusanov booked because a Bournemouth player tripped behind him out of his sight, then later the same player made a clear foul on Khusanov which deserved a booking but just a free kick. How poor have refs been recently?
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Played like a one off cup game and they were different to normal. Not knocking them for that, get amongst and all that. We obviously had our arses royally kicked at half time and were totally different second half. Thought we schooled them after the break. Subs were excellent
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Have admired Bournemouth very much this season.
But, today thought they dived on a regular basis, getting free kicks in potentially dangerous areas.
Also thought some of their challenges were deliberate fouls that didn't get the deserved bookings.
The challenge on Jack, by Adam's (?), was a late,, bad tackle that was intended but didn't get the yellow card it merited.
Thought the Kusanov booking was a joke.
Atwell was very poor and cannot fathom how he added 7 minutes ?
 
Ric said:
Yeah, that was really fucking annoying. Completely inconsistent refereeing.
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He booked Kusa for accidentally bringing down the winger and ten minutes later he brought Kusa down deliberately and he got away with a pat on the back. And who gives foul thrown ins, these days?
 
Really hard to analyse a game like today's because it was an afternoon full of contradictions and unexpected outcomes.

The first half proceeded as expected. City had most of the ball but created very little with it, barring the 1-on-1 Haaland put over the bar, and then we got caught napping in midfield and Bournemouth - who attacked with energy and speed whenever they got the ball - had it in the net within 10 seconds. Familiar story proceeding in a familiar manner that we all saw coming, except Pep who went with a first XI that's produced awful results time and time and time again this season. And it looked like that same group of players was going to produce another awful result in a game that could well have defined the outcome of the entire season. I was beginning to seriously question Pep during the first half because I genuinely just could not work out what he wanted in that first half, or what he expected that midfield to conjure. He's perplexed me a million times in the past but I could at least see what he was going for - today I just couldn't see what he wanted whatsoever and the half-time score suggested the players didn't either.

But then Pep did make two key changes that ultimately won the game. O'Reilly was a terrific outlet down the left wing and Marmoush buzzed around, helping us to win the ball back much higher up and keep the pressure on in their half. So you immediately think "Pep's seen the problem and changed it" and you start looking ahead to the rest of the season with a bit of confidence, because that second half did look like how we could work in the future. We were getting the ball forward more, winning second balls thanks to O'Reilly and Marmoush (and Kevin and Kovacic to be fair), and should have been out of sight by the last 10 mins. But then you stop and think and you realise both subs were forced by extenuating circumstances, which has left me feeling unsure as to whether Pep would have made them had Khusanov not been booked and had Haaland not been injured. Which has then left me wondering if Pep has learned anything from this game at all. I expect O'Reilly and Grealish to be "rested" on Wednesday.

What I will say is that today is a good example of why I'm happy with people criticising the quality of our players this season, but why I won't accept the narrative that they're not putting the effort in. I didn't give us a cat in hell's chance when the draw was made, and Bournemouth will definitely look at both of City's goals and think Huijsen and Kerkez would have made a difference in those marginal moments, but the lads out there in the second half scrapped hard for that. They made mistakes and stressed me out big time at points, but I could never fault the application. Even some lads who have been so, so poor this season (Bernardo, Kovacic, and Gundogan especially) really fought hard for 45 minutes to get us over the line. Grealish has been reduced to a cameo role this season but he took kick after kick after kick while winding the clock down. And I actually thought Dias and Gvardiol gave their best showings in ages as well - considering that was their first ever game as a CB pairing they looked like they'd partnered each other for years.

I'm just hoping beyond hope that Pep saw how we played in the second half and sticks with those players going forward. O'Reilly, Marmoush, and Grealish have massive roles to play before the end of this season. He needs to trust them from the start more and more and more. It's been baffling in recent weeks to see them continually left out of the first XI. Bernardo, Gundogan, and Kovacic - they dug in hard today once Marmoush and O'Reilly were outt here, but the first half made it abundantly clear (once again) that their time is up. De Bruyne's not far behind either. It's time to start trusting the lads who've waited and waited and waited for their chances this season while watching some absolute dreck from the bench. The second half provided a proper platform, something to build on, and I really, really hope Pep sees it.
 
I thought we were Ok in the first half, prior to their goal we were aggressive and looked dangerous when we had the ball

The goal completely knocked us back

Second half , we didn’t give them a sniff and looked to be back to our usual dominant selves

Luckily Pep recognised when players were goosed and maded the correct subs accordingly

The players were also clearly not taking any stupid risks in possession and numerous times the were booting it down the line rather than playing the risky pass

Nunes obviously didn’t get that memo
 
mancboy said:
Twatwell was just making it up as he went along, there was one incident when there was a clear pull bk on one of our players, he went to blow and then played advantage and then failed to go bk and book the player, its just flagrantly ignoring the rules
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No it's not. Play advantage from what would have been a booking for stopping a promising attack and you only go back if the foul was reckless and worth a YC just for that. "If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play. However, if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour; if the offence was interfering with or stopping a promising attack, the player is not cautioned."
 
youngbob said:
Really hard to analyse a game like today's because it was an afternoon full of contradictions and unexpected outcomes.

The first half proceeded as expected. City had most of the ball but created very little with it, barring the 1-on-1 Haaland put over the bar, and then we got caught napping in midfield and Bournemouth - who attacked with energy and speed whenever they got the ball - had it in the net within 10 seconds. Familiar story proceeding in a familiar manner that we all saw coming, except Pep who went with a first XI that's produced awful results time and time and time again this season. And it looked like that same group of players was going to produce another awful result in a game that could well have defined the outcome of the entire season. I was beginning to seriously question Pep during the first half because I genuinely just could not work out what he wanted in that first half, or what he expected that midfield to conjure. He's perplexed me a million times in the past but I could at least see what he was going for - today I just couldn't see what he wanted whatsoever and the half-time score suggested the players didn't either.

But then Pep did make two key changes that ultimately won the game. O'Reilly was a terrific outlet down the left wing and Marmoush buzzed around, helping us to win the ball back much higher up and keep the pressure on in their half. So you immediately think "Pep's seen the problem and changed it" and you start looking ahead to the rest of the season with a bit of confidence, because that second half did look like how we could work in the future. We were getting the ball forward more, winning second balls thanks to O'Reilly and Marmoush (and Kevin and Kovacic to be fair), and should have been out of sight by the last 10 mins. But then you stop and think and you realise both subs were forced by extenuating circumstances, which has left me feeling unsure as to whether Pep would have made them had Khusanov not been booked and had Haaland not been injured. Which has then left me wondering if Pep has learned anything from this game at all. I expect O'Reilly and Grealish to be "rested" on Wednesday.

What I will say is that today is a good example of why I'm happy with people criticising the quality of our players this season, but why I won't accept the narrative that they're not putting the effort in. I didn't give us a cat in hell's chance when the draw was made, and Bournemouth will definitely look at both of City's goals and think Huijsen and Kerkez would have made a difference in those marginal moments, but the lads out there in the second half scrapped hard for that. They made mistakes and stressed me out big time at points, but I could never fault the application. Even some lads who have been so, so poor this season (Bernardo, Kovacic, and Gundogan especially) really fought hard for 45 minutes to get us over the line. Grealish has been reduced to a cameo role this season but he took kick after kick after kick while winding the clock down. And I actually thought Dias and Gvardiol gave their best showings in ages as well - considering that was their first ever game as a CB pairing they looked like they'd partnered each other for years.

I'm just hoping beyond hope that Pep saw how we played in the second half and sticks with those players going forward. O'Reilly, Marmoush, and Grealish have massive roles to play before the end of this season. He needs to trust them from the start more and more and more. It's been baffling in recent weeks to see them continually left out of the first XI. Bernardo, Gundogan, and Kovacic - they dug in hard today once Marmoush and O'Reilly were outt here, but the first half made it abundantly clear (once again) that their time is up. De Bruyne's not far behind either. It's time to start trusting the lads who've waited and waited and waited for their chances this season while watching some absolute dreck from the bench. The second half provided a proper platform, something to build on, and I really, really hope Pep sees it.
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great analysis

hope we dont lose haaland for long
 
Blue Mist said:
Shit and I bet they put the semi final as a 5.30 kick off so I won't be going.
Wouldn't be going anyway, shouldn't be at Wembley.
The trains will be £150 if they even run and as for the car parks for coaches, don't get me started.
The Green Man's shit as well.
I bet we dont sell out either, sick of fans just wanting tickets for the final.
Mind you the tickets that are left after supporters clubs have grabbed the best just go to tourists.

The above is just in case I don't have time to post in the next few weeks. I think I've covered everything
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Thank fuck for that.

Miserable bastards like you aren't needed when thecteam needs support.

What a fucking attitude !! .
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
Have admired Bournemouth very much this season.
But, today thought they dived on a regular basis, getting free kicks in potentially dangerous areas.
Also thought some of their challenges were deliberate fouls that didn't get the deserved bookings.
The challenge on Jack, by Adam's (?), was a late,, bad tackle that was intended but didn't get the yellow card it merited.
Thought the Kusanov booking was a joke.
Atwell was very poor and cannot fathom how he added 7 minutes ?
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TV said Adams did get yellow card but I don't think he did.
 
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Platt Lane 59 said:
Have admired Bournemouth very much this season.
But, today thought they dived on a regular basis, getting free kicks in potentially dangerous areas.
Also thought some of their challenges were deliberate fouls that didn't get the deserved bookings.
The challenge on Jack, by Adam's (?), was a late,, bad tackle that was intended but didn't get the yellow card it merited.
Thought the Kusanov booking was a joke.
Atwell was very poor and cannot fathom how he added 7 minutes ?
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You know why 7 minutes was added.....time for Bmouth to equalise. I mean where the feck did 7 come from???
 
Vic said:
No it's not. Play advantage from what would have been a booking for stopping a promising attack and you only go back if the foul was reckless and worth a YC just for that. "If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play. However, if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour; if the offence was interfering with or stopping a promising attack, the player is not cautioned."
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The player pulled bk a player who had gone past him on the attack by any metric thats a yellow surely?
 
pavelsrnicek said:
On Haaland, wasn’t at his best but at least he scored. I’m convinced that whenever that the longer he takes over a penalty the greater the chance he misses it. Hopefully he won’t be out long and the boot is precautionary.
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I was musing to myself whether Haaland should let someone else take the penalties.
He has missed 3 out of 7 this season (according to today's commentator )
I know he likes to score goals and it is a boost to his confidence but he's not the greatest penalty taker.
Having said that, I don't know have we any better penalty takers.
 
St.Pauli support said:
B'mouth put in a brutal shift 1st half and had nothing left in the 2nd.

Our lads finally had a good attitude and effort. Nice to see!
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They did put everything into the first 45 minutes. But our ability to keep possession in the 2nd and regain it time after time deflated them especially after our second goal. Best performance since our loss of form at the end of October.
 
LongsightM13 said:
Ludicrous to blame Eddie for the goal imo, it was all on Nunes. Gave the ball away with a suicidal pass across the field and then compounded that by being totally switched off for Semenyo behind him
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Yes Nunes pass was awful. But how did two defenders Dias and Gvardiol let the Bournemouth player cross the ball for the goal ?
 
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