President Trump

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

I saw them several times, good live band

Quite interested to learn more about the other band mentioned;

'Boring moronic shite'............. :-)

 

[PinkFinal]

 

[Clevers]

Hitler's birthday - how appropriate,

 

[Ashton Moss Messi]

Stop generalising please.
I am 66yo and I would happily rejoin the EU, albeit on much reduced benefits.

We're similar ages and neither of us are in the blue rinse army, it's not an age thing.

 

[BlueRockape]

Early and late Mustangs (<'68/>'22) are where it's at. Anything outside of that is pretty much junk. I wouldn't take an 80's model if you gave it to me with a years supply of petrol, tryers and insurance included.

It was a 1971 model probably worth a few bob today but not a patch on the capri.
Especially when I had a 4.5 jag axel fitted and full rebore it would catch pigeons

 

[BlueRockape]

I really feel for the intelligent Americans my son is a solicitor in New York and has been for ten years and has his own firm but he is seriously thinking about bringing his family back to the uk.
That's how afraid he is of what this **** is going to do.
The thick red neck cunts can drownd in there own vomit

 

[PinkFinal]

I really feel for the intelligent Americans my son is a solicitor in New York and has been for ten years and has his own firm but he is seriously thinking about bringing his family back to the uk.
That's how afraid he is of what this **** is going to do.
The thick red neck cunts can drownd in there own vomit

I think they will try to spread this disease to Europe too
Where they've plenty of supporters of course

 

[BlueRockape]

I think they will try to spread this disease to Europe too
Where they've plenty of supporters of course

It's amazing how much support he has from other countries.
I go in a little Icelandic bar they have Trump jackets shorts cigarette boxes and even wrist bracelets they are mad for the ****

 

[Grassland Blue]

We're similar ages and neither of us are in the blue rinse army, it's not an age thing.

That's kind of what I was getting at.
It's a bit lazy to generalise without quantifying it though.

 

[SamTheGuru]

It's amazing how much support he has from other countries.
I go in a little Icelandic bar they have Trump jackets shorts cigarette boxes and even wrist bracelets they are mad for the ****

I think it creates a big divide as a lot of people respect him as a politician for doing what he says he is going to do even though he appears clinically insane. The one thing he is really doing is exposing the flaws in democracy. He is also exposing the flaws in some megalomaniac that thinks he knows everything trying to take charge.

 

[Slipper One]

'Downing Street has declined to officially back a "buy British" campaign in response to Donald Trump's tariffs.'

I can see Starmers stance on this as he tries to walk the tightrope, at least in public.

Over here we haven't waited for a government to direct us, many consumers do their best not to buy American wherever possible. It's difficult, because we buy so much bloody stuff off them.

Even the grocery stores are marking what is Canadian, but you have to be mindful of the sneaky buggers, because they'll mark things like "Packed in Canada", which implies America as the source.

The provinces have stopped purchasing American made alcohol (and Canada consumes a LARGE amount of American alcohol) and has companies like Jack Daniels squealing as it makes a huge whole in their sales.

Apps have been developed that can tell you the origin of the produce, especially if it's made south of the border and of course social media has gone into overdrive.
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There are two really positive things to come out of all this over here.

I didn't think Canada could be so united and Trumps rhetoric about Canada being a 51st state has really fired them up.

The second point is that some insignificant and obscure companies which produce quality products have now had their sales rocket as people have gone online and researched alternatives to their usual American made products.
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The UK (or any other country) doesn't need govt approval not to buy American, they can do it themselves if they feel inclined to.

The only way Trump and his cronies will be deposed will be by the people and if they are losing their jobs and homes because people (and countries) are refusing to buy their products, then that will help contribute all the more to that.

It's probably going to happen anyway when global trade gets reorganized and circumvents them, but any little bit helps along the way.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I think it creates a big divide as a lot of people respect him as a politician for doing what he says he is going to do even though he appears clinically insane.

Build a wall?

Lower prices on day one?

Stop the war in Ukraine?

He's done very little of substance apart from enrich himself and his cronies, and generally fuck shit up..

 

[Slipper One]

Apart from the native Indians all Americans are immigrants

....and where did the native indians come from?

 

[Slipper One]

Early and late Mustangs (<'68/>'22) are where it's at. Anything outside of that is pretty much junk. I wouldn't take an 80's model if you gave it to me with a years supply of petrol, tryers and insurance included.

You need to start picking up the lingo ol' chap.........tires.
The stuff you put into the car to make it go is..........gas.
Insurance..........well, that seems optional with many drivers.

BTW, you could always use 'soccer' on here and see how you get on. :)

 

[Grassland Blue]

Build a wall?

Lower prices on day one?

Stop the war in Ukraine?

He's done very little of substance apart from enrich himself and his cronies, and generally fuck shit up..

The thing that bothers me is that the checks and balances in place to reign in this type of individual, for the most part haven't worked.
Trump is above and beyond the reaches of the law it seems and his bullcrap is still repeated and believed by so many of the faithful.
He needs to be removed from office immediately.
There are only 2 options as I see it.
1. Kill him.
2. Have him certified.
Only after one of these solutions has been achieved can America begin to be rehabilitated.
A bully, a bulsh1tter, a narcissistic liar, conman, sex pest as President?
Who would have thought?
If the division in the general population continues to grow there will ultimately be more than peaceful protests.
If there is a god, then god help America.

 

[Slipper One]

If I moved to XYZ, I would do so because XYZ was attractive to me, be it job opportunities, culture, geography…and the last thing I would want to do is drag my old life along in an attempt to change people in my new life…with the exception of Hob Nobs, Lion’s Wine Gums, and a good meat pie, of course!

I think immigrants who emigrate with the intention of NOT CHANGING and attempting to assimilate do their new host country a disservice, can alienate themselves in the eyes of locals, and can lead to prejudice where none previously existed.

Assimilating is a big factor Chicago, but I think there's more to it than that. Up here in the great white north, the Chinese for instance don't tend to assimilate too much, yet there are rarely issues with them. They just work, look after the family and keep themselves to themselves.

I have a friend who moved here from Egypt and I remember discussing with him some Muslim issues and that was pretty much his reply, assimilate and become Canadian. Although a devout Muslim, he said he left Egypt to have a better life in Canada. His two boys were born here and consider themselves Canadian. Of course they still enjoy the Egyptian culture, but totally embrace the Canadian culture as well.

Some others are from Bangladesh and have been here a number of years and as with my Egyptian friend, enjoy life here and they embrace both cultures. Their children are fully integrated with friends, school, sport.......and apparently really like Christmas. Can't think why.

Although both groups are from other countries, they all assimilated and became part of Canadian society. Their issue is with others in the greater Muslim community who seem intent on changing Canada to reflect more the culture that they all came from.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

You need to start picking up the lingo ol' chap.........tires.
The stuff you put into the car to make it go is..........gas.
Insurance..........well, that seems optional with many drivers.

BTW, you could always use 'soccer' on here and see how you get on. :)

I went to the 'pharmacy' today to pick up my 'meds'. The girl on the counter asked me what I was expecting to pick up, and when I said 'antihistamine' she was dumbfounded. It turns out I should have said 'ant-I' not 'ant-E'.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

The thing that bothers me is that the checks and balances in place to reign in this type of individual, for the most part haven't worked.

Turns out this is what happens when when your constitutional democracy's foundations are based on a 237 year old document.

 

[ROCKET80]

I respect that, I really do, but an idea of multiculturalism does not make it so.

Multiculturalism is defined as the acceptance of different cultures in a society and the active support of these cultural differences by both the majority and minority group members.

In other words there is no prevailing culture, just a potpourri of cultures, no melting pot, just a collection of distinct cultural identities co-existing with one another.

In other words when you visit China and modify your behaviour in order to accommodate the prevailing culture, every time you do this, you are endorsing the idea that despite China's ethnic and cultural diversity, there is a prevailing culture and that you accept this and modify your behaviour accordingly.

That is the opposite of multiculturalism.

But of course China is a communist one party state, Britain is not. Britain, on the surface at least, embraces multiculturalism yet at the same time wants different cultures to integrate into mainstream British life, but if a country denies the existence of a mainstream British culture what is there to integrate with?

What has this to do with Trump?

Trump is a one trick pony, he's been elected again, despite his obvious shortcomings, because he speaks to a distinct American cultural identity, one that feels threatened and is sufficient in number to propel him to the White House.

That's why, even now, while his poll numbers plummet, on cultural issues his head is still above water.

I respect your take, but I think you've misrepresented what multiculturalism is. It doesn’t mean there’s no shared culture or national identity, it means people from different backgrounds can maintain aspects of their cultural heritage while also participating in the wider society.

The UK has always been a product of multiculturalism, it's been shaped by centuries of migration and cultural exchange. The national identity has never been fixed, it evolves through diversity.

In fact, studies have shown that immigrants often display higher levels of patriotism and attachment to their new country than the general population. That speaks volumes about the strength and success of integration in a truly multicultural society.

Bringing this back to Trump, his appeal taps into deeper identity struggles in the US. A country built on both colonialism and migration, yet reluctant to fully acknowledge either. The idea of a singular, dominant American culture ignores the reality that the US has always been a mix of influences; Indigenous, European, Latin American, African, and more. Instead of embracing its complexity, parts of the US cling to a narrow, idealised version of America shaped by old Puritan values and rigid moral beliefs.

Trump offers a simplified identity rooted in nostalgia and exclusion, not because people feel unsafe with change, but because acknowledging America’s true, complex identity means confronting uncomfortable truths about its past and present. For some, that’s harder to accept than holding onto a myth.

Multiculturalism, whether in the UK or the US, isn’t about erasing identity, it’s about broadening it to reflect the people who actually live there. The question is whether we’re willing to live with that complexity or retreat into myths of cultural uniformity that never really existed.

 

[Blue and true]

I respect your take, but I think you've misrepresented what multiculturalism is. It doesn’t mean there’s no shared culture or national identity, it means people from different backgrounds can maintain aspects of their cultural heritage while also participating in the wider society.

The UK has always been a product of multiculturalism, it's been shaped by centuries of migration and cultural exchange. The national identity has never been fixed, it evolves through diversity.

In fact, studies have shown that immigrants often display higher levels of patriotism and attachment to their new country than the general population. That speaks volumes about the strength and success of integration in a truly multicultural society.

Bringing this back to Trump, his appeal taps into deeper identity struggles in the US. A country built on both colonialism and migration, yet reluctant to fully acknowledge either. The idea of a singular, dominant American culture ignores the reality that the US has always been a mix of influences; Indigenous, European, Latin American, African, and more. Instead of embracing its complexity, parts of the US cling to a narrow, idealised version of America shaped by old Puritan values and rigid moral beliefs.

Trump offers a simplified identity rooted in nostalgia and exclusion, not because people feel unsafe with change, but because acknowledging America’s true, complex identity means confronting uncomfortable truths about its past and present. For some, that’s harder to accept than holding onto a myth.

Multiculturalism, whether in the UK or the US, isn’t about erasing identity, it’s about broadening it to reflect the people who actually live there. The question is whether we’re willing to live with that complexity or retreat into myths of cultural uniformity that never really existed.

Sensational post. I for one aren't just willing to live with it, I embrace it wholeheartedly. In the context of our nation, I can't think of anything worse than being insular and reproachful.