Reform 2025 Limited new name same business

[bluethrunthru]

You really are scared aren't you? Why the fuck are you concerning yourself and running around like a blue arsed fly about the way other people who you don't even know are voting? Just chill and enjoy the results...

Far from it - I will welcome at least one Reform council win then sit back and giggle at the chaos and ineptitude that is the result

 

[BigJoe#1]

Far from it - I will welcome at least one Reform council win then sit back and giggle at the chaos and ineptitude that is the result

So why keep harping on about how everyone that votes Reform is a racist and that Labour and Keir Starmer is the best thing since sliced bread.

The public will register their votes and then you can reflect on the state of the country that has led to them voting that way. Maybe there needs to be more and better accountability eh?

 

[BlueHammer85]

can anybody planning on voting Reform tell me their plans for local govt? What are they going to do with your bins? Are they going to increase car parking costs or make it free? Any clue on bus routes?

You can't run local service on a philosophy of racism and a policy on immigration the latter being for national government

they only care about boat people, that is it.

 

[BigJoe#1]

they only care about boat people, that is it.

.... and you know this to be factual how? Or is it just another of your many vacuous assumptions and a personal opinion and an attack that is based on the fact that many people would prefer them to a Labour (or Tory) representation.... which when you think about it probably says more about Labour (and the Tories) and their policies than Reform.

 

[BlueHammer85]

.... and you know this to be factual how? Or is it just another of your many vacuous assumptions and a personal opinion and an attack that is based on the fact that many people would prefer them to a Labour (or Tory) representation.... which when you think about it probably says more about Labour (and the Tories) and their policies than Reform.

Because that is literally Reforms only 1 policy. What else about Reform is there to vote them on ??

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There’s nothing anyone can say to stop people voting Reform.

They have to experience the utter chaos before beginning to realise what they will have done.

Make sure you and your family and friends are okay and let the chickens come home to roost.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Because that is literally Reforms only 1 policy. What else about Reform is there to vote them on ??

I could have sworn I've heard them comment on Green Issues and law and order, to name but two. And you're right their policies are not well publicised or promoted, but then again, they don't need to do anything. Labour are as I've said before...the gift that keeps on giving. Why expose yourself unnecessarily to be challenged when you really don't need to?

I am not defending them - but I will vote them (for well listed reasons), I just think that people who as a defence mechanism feel the need to to attack the other side would do so in a more meaningful way instead of shouting Racist all of the time. You come across as the type of person that you yourself accuse Reform voters as being.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I could have sworn I've heard them comment on Green Issues and law and order, to name but two. And you're right their policies are not well publicised or promoted, but then again, they don't need to do anything. Labour are as I've said before...the gift that keeps on giving. Why expose yourself unnecessarily to be challenged when you really don't need to?

I am not defending them - but I will vote them (for well listed reasons), I just think that people who as a defence mechanism feel the need to to attack the other side would do so in a more meaningful way instead of shouting Racist all of the time. You come across as the type of person that you yourself accuse Reform voters as being.

Irony doesn't come close, all you've done from day 1 is attack Labour, and all you've done from day 1 is pretend you're only voting Reform as protest vote. No one believes you.

 

[BigJoe#1]

This tells us nothing apart from some words that in someone's opinion Reform did nothing when they had a council (I've not even bothered to look and see if it's true - because it doesn't matter)and created a mess. Well that is no shock.

I refer you to Birmingham City council.... is that Reforms mess too?

I refer you to record illegal channel crossings... is that Reforms mess too?

I refer you to the state of the economy... is that Reforms mess too?

We could go on forever pointing fingers and shouting our mouths off, but the harsh reality of life today is that we ARE in a mess and Reform have been nowhere near the levers of power that has got us here.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Irony doesn't come close, all you've done from day 1 is attack Labour, and all you've done from day 1 is pretend you're only voting Reform as protest vote. No one believes you.

Mark; you could argue ‘til kingdom come and get nowhere.

He thinks things are as bad as can be under Labour. He has to experience Reform destroying Wales entirely before beginning to feel buyer’s remorse.

He’s justified his vote in his head. No amount to logical debate will change that.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Mark; you could argue ‘til kingdom come and get nowhere.

He thinks things are as bad as can be under Labour. He has to experience Reform destroying Wales entirely before beginning to feel buyer’s remorse.

He’s justified his vote in his head. No amount to logical debate will change that.

I know, completely pointless.. all he will ever say is 'It can't be any worse can it ??!' or 'Labour have destroyed everything'' , hyperbolic cliche shite that comes out of all Reform followers mouths.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I know, completely pointless.. all he will ever say is 'It can't be any worse can it ??!' or 'Labour have destroyed everything'' , hyperbolic cliche shite that comes out of all Reform followers mouths.

I don’t disagree, but it’s a cyclical argument.

Some people have to experience the consequences of their actions before realising they’ve made a mistake.

See posters U-turning on voting for Brexit and the Johnson government.

Reform would be even more of a disaster, but for people who can’t anticipate the harm they will do, they are the vote to bloody the status quo.

There’s 334 pages of the same debate on here. If they haven’t realised by now, they will have to by experience. No amount of online debate will change their view.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Irony doesn't come close, all you've done from day 1 is attack Labour, and all you've done from day 1 is pretend you're only voting Reform as protest vote. No one believes you.

You don't believe me? Do I care? Errrr... No!

You are just the opinionated know it all typical Pub bore that stands in the corner spouting off all night is there anything that are you not a subject expert in?

Yes I'll attack Labour because they're hypocrites of the highest order and are nowhere near representing the working people - what the party is supposed to stand for, and yes I do want them out of power in Wales, they have destroyed this country. And if using mt protest vote to Reform achieves that single objective that is what I will do. If it was the Greens or Plaid Cymru or the Tories or Lib.Dems that stood the best chance of achieving that then that is where my vote would be cast.

BTW it means less than nothing to me if you choose to believe me.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Yes I'll attack Labour because they're hypocrites of the highest order and are nowhere near representing the working people - what the party is supposed to stand for, and yes I do want them out of power in Wales, they have destroyed this country.

There it is , Wales is a beautiful country and doing well overall, it has some challenges and always will.

Reform always shout at liberals for not being flag waving nationalist yet they are the ones that play the country down the most.

 

[BigJoe#1]

There it is , Wales is a beautiful country and doing well overall, it has some challenges and always will.

Reform always shout at liberals for not being flag waving nationalist yet they are the ones that play the country down the most.

You clearly don't read what people post.... then again the kind of people that already know everything hardly ever do, it's only their opinion that matters.

 

[bluethrunthru]

recipe for disaster

 

[hampshireblue]

Yes one can't help being delighted about something that could possibly happen.

It's the pinnacle of joy.

Tell it to the poster who referred to it.

 

[hampshireblue]

This tells us nothing apart from some words that in someone's opinion Reform did nothing when they had a council (I've not even bothered to look and see if it's true - because it doesn't matter)and created a mess. Well that is no shock.

I refer you to Birmingham City council.... is that Reforms mess too?

I refer you to record illegal channel crossings... is that Reforms mess too?

I refer you to the state of the economy... is that Reforms mess too?

We could go on forever pointing fingers and shouting our mouths off, but the harsh reality of life today is that we ARE in a mess and Reform have been nowhere near the levers of power that has got us here.

I think you are forgetting the roles Tice and Farage played in getting us where we are now. 4% off GDP-now I wonder what that would do for the economy of Wales. Wales benefitted to the tune of £5bn + from EU money including major trunk roads. Maybe if it wasn't for the 2 Reform grifters, you may just have got something towards the M4 relief road you so desperately want.

 

[hampshireblue]

You really are scared aren't you? Why the fuck are you concerning yourself and running around like a blue arsed fly about the way other people who you don't even know are voting? Just chill and enjoy the results...

Probably because most of us don't understand the logic.

But isn't it the case that the next council elections in Wales are not until 2027, and you've already decided on Reform.

Isn't it also the case that the next Senned election is in 2026 and there will be a form of PR introduced by the very Labour government that, according to you, has done nothing good except give free prescriptions?