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[bluethrunthru]

I see a new WUM has joined the thread

 

[blueinsa]

Someone doesn’t agree with me…right, where is my internet forum playbook….

Call him a wum….

Didn’t work? Call him a racist…

Still there? Call him thick as well as a racist…

Nope? Tell him you won’t engage with him ever again….

Rinse and repeat.

 

[law74]

Another typically ignorant comment from you I see. What exactly are these "perks" in the public sector? Surely you're thinking of the private sector, with its bonuses, 20% discounts and trips to concerts, sporting events etc?

It might work in your local 'Spoons but people aren't daft on here.

And just out of interest, what are you employed as since you seem to think everyone is somehow beneath you?

Not to mention most senior managers would be over 55 and many will have paid off the mortgage and have a tidy nest egg saved up.
Early retirement will certainly be an option for many

 

[bluethrunthru]

France doesn't put any migrants in tents. I look forward with relish as to how they intend to get around International Law. They seem intent on wasting a lot of local tax payers time and money on legal cases.

 

[west didsblue]

I’m 54 now and I’ve lived a lot of my life with I might add a lot of European friends as my history is dual nationality so I’m not racist by any stretch . As I said earlier I’m not racist but I’m sick of seeing fucking Rona gypsies Turning neighbour hoods into shitholes .

South Yorkshire has one of the highest proportions of Roma of anywhere in the country (and it’s still less than 2%) so using your local experience to generalise for the whole of Britain is far from an accurate perception.

As you are only second generation British it’s a bit hypocritical to moan about foreigners. Maybe you should go back to your roots and live in Hungary. They’ve got a leader and government who seem to be on your wavelength.

 

[Paul1970]

I didn't imply you were racist. I'm sure you're not, as most on this forum won't be.

But you haven't answered my question.

Sorry mate . Little things like you can’t even do a nativity at school for fear of upsetting certain sections of groups and flying of the st George is not favoured either . Little things to most but to me it hurts .

 

[babyape]

Sorry mate . Little things like you can’t even do a nativity at school for fear of upsetting certain sections of groups and flying of the st George is not favoured either . Little things to most but to me it hurts .

And you can’t call it Christmas or sell poppies anymore. 2 others things that are totally made up to add to your list

 

[Blue and true]

Sorry mate . Little things like you can’t even do a nativity at school for fear of upsetting certain sections of groups and flying of the st George is not favoured either . Little things to most but to me it hurts .

Fair enough, my missus is a teacher so I'd be interested to hear what she says about the nativity situation. As for the flag thing, I imagine that's paranoia as opposed to legitimate concern. You still see plenty of St George flags around the country, particularly in London.

Thanks for answering the question.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Morning mate . I’m in Doncaster and it’s got terrible . Always been multi ethnic with Indian and Pakistani residents who have always worked and contributed but now even they are now are getting upset at what’s coming now . Every 3 shops is either a Turkish hairdressers European food shop and iPhone repair shop and full of Roma begging and harassing residents. Sorry if I offend people on here but it’s my opinion .

You don’t offend me, mate. This seems to be genuine issue across the country that needs to be addressed. We do need open debate and it’d be interesting to see the change in demographics. We’ve got the same here with barbers, repair shops, and those begging are Brit’s, who may sound like foreigners, but that’s just because they’ve fallen that far down the well.

Ps. The barbers near me are always busy, and the town itself looks more like a service support centre rather than the once bustling town it would’ve been. I suppose this has happened across the country. Closure of mining, mills, industry, and other forms of manual labour, filled by services taken over by people who have seen the gap in the market where once local people no longer want to fill.

 

[Paul1970]

I’m mo

South Yorkshire has one of the highest proportions of Roma of anywhere in the country (and it’s still less than 2%) so using your local experience to generalise for the whole of Britain is far from an accurate perception.

As you are only second generation British it’s a bit hypocritical to moan about foreigners. Maybe you should go back to your roots and live in Hungary. They’ve got a leader and government who seem to be on your wavelength.

Im moaning about them not working and just sponging which is a big difference to what my family did . As for orban he puts his country first which isn’t so bad .

 

[stonerblue]

The problem is the ordinary folk who live in normal areas are getting fed up with the country being overrun and are looking for change I mean at this rate can you imagine what it will be like in 5 years . Immigration as always been here and it wasn’t a problem but now Britain is not even Britain anymore and that is why people are turning .

I'm an 'normal' bloke living in an ordinary area that, without immigrants starting business', would have been a ghost town 50years ago.

 

[mackenzie]

And you can’t call it Christmas or sell poppies anymore. 2 others things that are totally made up to add to your list

Look up Norwood Primary school in Hampshire.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Sorry mate . Little things like you can’t even do a nativity at school for fear of upsetting certain sections of groups and flying of the st George is not favoured either . Little things to most but to me it hurts .

You are Darren Grimes and I claim my Five Euro's prize

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

As for orban he puts his country first which isn’t so bad .

'Orban has transformed Hungary into an illiberal democracy, using nativist campaigns against asylum seekers to marginalize his remaining political opponent Jobbik, while intensifying an antisemitic campaign against...George Soros to curtail civil society.'

'With his [Orban's] recent move to create a parallel, partisan judiciary, overpowering the nominally independent judiciary, Hungary is no longer liberal or democratic.'

'Today, with the exception of one TV station (RTL Klub), and a few websites, the Hungarian media are completely under Orban's control.'

'It [Hungary] has become a competitive authoritarian state, which allows an increasingly embattled and harassed opposition to exist only on the political margins.'

Fidesz has won all national and European elections since 2009 by 'using an enormous amount of public financial resources, constraining public opposition parties' access to media, and manipulating electoral rules.'

'Orban has reduced parliament to a partisan rubber-stamping institution, which does little else than uncritically introduce and pass government- initiated legislation.'

'He has weakened non-majoritarian institutions, from courts to tax offices, by limiting their power and stacking them with cronies.'

All the above quotations [with some slight edits] are taken from either Cas Mudde's acclaimed study The Far Right Today or Zadia Marzouki, Duncan McDonnell and Olivier Roy (eds) Saving the People: How Populists Hijack Religion.

Additionally, Orban also espouses the baseless 'Great Replacement' conspiracy theory. The bogus demographics which support it have been comprehensively debunked (years ago by John Bowen in his study Blaming Islam if anyone needs to know), and the theory is also logically fallacious (it commits the 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' error).

 

[west didsblue]

'Orban has transformed Hungary into an illiberal democracy, using nativist campaigns against asylum seekers to marginalize his remaining political opponent Jobbik, while intensifying an antisemitic campaign against...George Soros to curtail civil society.'

'With his [Orban's] recent move to create a parallel, partisan judiciary, overpowering the nominally independent judiciary, Hungary is no longer liberal or democratic.'

'Today, with the exception of one TV station (RTL Klub), and a few websites, the Hungarian media are completely under Orban's control.'

'It [Hungary] has become a competitive authoritarian state, which allows an increasingly embattled and harassed opposition to exist only on the political margins.'

Fidesz has won all national and European elections since 2009 by 'using an enormous amount of public financial resources, constraining public opposition parties' access to media, and manipulating electoral rules.'

'Orban has reduced parliament to a partisan rubber-stamping institution, which does little else than uncritically introduce and pass government- initiated legislation.'

'He has weakened non-majoritarian institutions, from courts to tax offices, by limiting their power and stacking them with cronies.'

All the above quotations [with some slight edits] are taken from either Cas Mudde's acclaimed study The Far Right Today or Zadia Marzouki, Duncan McDonnell and Olivier Roy (eds) Saving the People: How Populists Hijack Religion.

Additionally, Orban also espouses the baseless 'Great Replacement' conspiracy theory. The bogus demographics which support it have been comprehensively debunked (years ago by John Bowen in his study Blaming Islam if anyone needs to know), and the theory is also logically fallacious (it commits the 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' error).

I was just going to say Orban’s a **** and anyone who admires him is clearly a wrong un, but you’ve explained why which is probably more helpful.

 

[babyape]

Look up Norwood Primary school in Hampshire.

Right. One school in Hampshire cancelled its Easter bonnet party of its own choosing with no pressure from anyone to do so.

That’s me outraged. I’m voting reform from now on. This madness has to end.

 

[mackenzie]

Right. One school in Hampshire cancelled its Easter bonnet party of its own choosing with no pressure from anyone to do so.

That’s me outraged. I’m voting reform from now on. This madness has to end.

It's not made up though is it.
And the Easter service was cancelled too.

 

[west didsblue]

Look up Norwood Primary school in Hampshire.

Just did.
Seems there was a lot of frothing by right wing commentators about the school deciding not to hold an Easter bonnet parade this year. It did, however, hold a Christmas carol service in December in a local church so it would appear Christmas was recognised as Christmas. Not sure if they sold poppies but I doubt there was any change to what they usually do.

 

[bluethrunthru]

It's not made up though is it.
And the Easter service was cancelled too.

at one school in Hampshire - I detect the razor thinnest edge of a wedge which can be seen under a powerful microscope

 

[mackenzie]

Just did.
Seems there was a lot of frothing by right wing commentators about the school deciding not to hold an Easter bonnet parade this year. It did, however, hold a Christmas carol service in December in a local church so it would appear Christmas was recognised as Christmas. Not sure if they sold poppies but I doubt there was any change to what they usually do.

In her initial letter to parents, head teacher Stephanie Mander said the decision had been made "in the spirit of inclusivity and respect for the diverse religious beliefs represented" in the school's community.

This isn't inclusivity or respecting different faiths at all.