Southport attacker pleads guilty to murdering three girls | Sentenced to 52 years in prison

That’s factually incorrect. Sentences have on average been getting progressively more severe for a long time now.

Prison is considered soft by many of the ethnic minority inmates. Much easier than their own countries.

Sentences handed down by UK courts very rarely fit the crime in my, and I suspect many others, opinion. They are rarely completed thanks to 'good behaviour', Starmer, etc.

Weak policing by in the main underfunded and disenchanted officers, is largely down to the Court's failue to apply the full force of the law.
 
No, to permanently remove the offender from society.

The punishment should fit the crime. At the rate our society is changing for the worse, history will see the abolishment of the death penalty and increasingly over-lenient sentencing as a huge mistake.
You know that sent and has empirically been increasing for the last thirty years or so? So how does that tally with it becoming ‘increasingly’ over-lenient?
 
I know you're fretting over the murderers you protect, but it shouldn't be for too long. As I said you could always move to a country where like minded moral cowards hold sway.

You keep dreaming away about the death sentence , I’ve seen this topic pop up every few years since I joined here 15 years ago, we’re nowhere closer and you’ll be salivating about the prospect in a few years time on here. It isn’t happening buddy.
 
You know that sent and has empirically been increasing for the last thirty years or so? So how does that tally with it becoming ‘increasingly’ over-lenient?

Life should mean life, not 15 years or so.

All sentences should be fully served. 10 years should mean 10 years to the day.

Knife and gun crime should carry a mandatory life sentence for juvenile and adult offenders.

Proceeds from fraud / robbery etc, should be repaid in full by the criminal via sale of personal assets, or

Reducing sentences for early 'guilty' pleas should be scrapped completely.

'Illegal immigants' found guuilty oof commiting any offence should be deported on the day their sentences are completed.

Prisons should be places where only very basic rights are given. No TV, Internet, sports/games etc, just three meals a day, a bed, a toilet, and access to library for educational study. Prisoners should be responsible for all cleaning and decoration of their accommodation.

I know you'll pick holes out of everything I've said GDM, it may be unrealistic, but it's just my opinion, and what would be in force if I ruled the world!
 
Life should mean life, not 15 years or so.

All sentences should be fully served. 10 years should mean 10 years to the day.

Knife and gun crime should carry a mandatory life sentence for juvenile and adult offenders.

Proceeds from fraud / robbery etc, should be repaid in full by the criminal via sale of personal assets, or

Reducing sentences for early 'guilty' pleas should be scrapped completely.

'Illegal immigants' found guuilty oof commiting any offence should be deported on the day their sentences are completed.

Prisons should be places where only very basic rights are given. No TV, Internet, sports/games etc, just three meals a day, a bed, a toilet, and access to library for educational study. Prisoners should be responsible for all cleaning and decoration of their accommodation.

I know you'll pick holes out of everything I've said GDM, it may be unrealistic, but it's just my opinion, and what would be in force if I ruled the world!
You’ve conspicuously not addressed the point I responded to, namely your false claim that sentences are increasingly over lenient when they manifestly are not.
 
Go on then , set up a vote instead of all your meaningless babble on here, I’m sure a few of your fellow racist reform heroes will be up for that.

Why is he a racist? That's a very cheap shot.

If our shithouse politicians had the guts to hold a referendum on capital punishment in cases like the Southport murders, the vote wouldn't even be close.

No doubt you'd be there crying with your wet lefty liberal friends trying to overturn democracy again.
 
Why is he a racist? That's a very cheap shot.

If our shithouse politicians had the guts to hold a referendum on capital punishment in cases like the Southport murders, the vote wouldn't even be close.

No doubt you'd be there crying with your wet lefty liberal friends trying to overturn democracy again.

Reform
Brexit
Farage
Racist
Trump

When someone calls your stupidity out then resort to babble.
 
Liberal
Leftie
Moral signallers
Do gooder
Woke

Works both ways, but i'd rather be in the leftie woke camp.

Would you fight for your country in the event of a war?

Would you volunteer, wait for conscription, or simply give up and try to hold meaningful discussion with the enemy?

This country is closer to civil war than you may think, and it's weak liberals like yourself who will allow it to happen and then cry about it.
 
You’ve conspicuously not addressed the point I responded to, namely your false claim that sentences are increasingly over lenient when they manifestly are not.

Apologies. I iintended to say that the whole legal system is over-lenient. My view on their being increasingly over-lenient was based on Starmer's decision to allow early release to large numbers of 'low risk' prisoners, simply to save money.

Our legal system was effectively 'overruled' and thereby weakened for financial reasons, and it won't be the last time.

Like the police, the judiciary will eventually see the futility of trying to do a 'proper' job.
 

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