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Vic said:
"From what I understand" seems to be your usual excuse for not understanding.

People weren't to be removed to Rwanda to have their British asylum case processed, but forcibly deported to claim asylum in Rwanda.
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Same difference, if they were claiming asylum they would be sent to Rwanda to have "their cases" processed... which is quite proper in my opinion as they had laned on our shores in the words of your beloved leader... unlawfully.

If they're claiming asylum.... does it matter where their case is dealt with provided it is a "safe" country?

Do you always have this much difficulty understanding?
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Same difference, if they were claiming asylum they would be sent to Rwanda to have "their cases" processed... which is quite proper in my opinion as they had laned on our shores in the words of your beloved leader... unlawfully.

If they're claiming asylum.... does it matter where their case is dealt with provided it is a "safe" country?

Do you always have this much difficulty understanding?
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The Rwanda scheme meant that people who were successfully recognised as refugees would still stay there.

Third country processing would mean that asylum seekers who were processed and given refugee status, would then be allowed to come to the UK as refugees.

The Rwanda scheme involved leaving them in Rwanda whatever the outcome (which is why it was considered a breach of the law).
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Whoooppppeeee... the economy is turning a corner.... so says Rachel Reeves

Now where have I heard that before.....? what could possibly go wrong?
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It’s good news. But lot of headwinds (some home made others global) so let’s see where it goes this year. I fear she’s made a bit of a political gaff when she says the growth is because “her policies are working” it’s going to be hard to distance her policies when it doesn’t go so well… but there is always the Trump card.

At the end of the day I want this government to do well as it’s in all our interests.
 
metalblue said:
It’s good news. But lot of headwinds (some home made others global) so let’s see where it goes this year. I fear she’s made a bit of a political gaff when she says the growth is because “her policies are working” it’s going to be hard to distance her policies when it doesn’t go so well… but there is always the Trump card.

At the end of the day I want this government to do well as it’s in all our interests.
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I have to confess, of course I want the country to do well too regardless of who was in power, though I do think her announcement was/is a bit premature but in hard times you have to clutch at any straws available... but when I heard she declared we've turned a corner.... well, I just couldn't resist.
 
bluenova said:
The Rwanda scheme meant that people who were successfully recognised as refugees would still stay there.

Third country processing would mean that asylum seekers who were processed and given refugee status, would then be allowed to come to the UK as refugees.

The Rwanda scheme involved leaving them in Rwanda whatever the outcome (which is why it was considered a breach of the law).
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Correct - people still after all this time seem to think that the people being sent to Rwanda would have their claim heard and if approved come back to the UK, which is wrong. They would stay in Rwanda, a country that was deemed unsafe by the Supreme Court due to the risk of refoulement. The courts believed there was a real risk that we would effectively be sending genuine fleeing refugees to their deaths, as Rwanda's own asylum systems were flawed and resulted in people being incorrectly sent back where they came from.

People also seem to forget, the Rwanda policy involved us taking a lot of their most vulnerable refugees back here in return, plus we'd pay them hundreds of millions (indeed we already have). So what was even the point?

The cruelty was the point. If the idea seemed nasty enough, then people might think twice about coming here. Except in the world of reality it made no difference, because many asylum applicants are trafficked, desperate, not informed or just don't care. If you're willing to come over the channel at risk of drowning in a patched up dinghy, a flight to Africa isn't exactly a deterrent.

I would be shocked if whatever asylum processing policy Labour cooks up can be half as bad as that - it's a high bar to clear something that is ineffective, pointless, expensive, and results in us actually taking in more refugees... But if it is somehow that bad, then I'll be the first one on here calling it out.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Christ, an actual fan of Katie Hopkins. Don’t think there’s a grifter lower than her - which should be applauded really.
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I said some of her stuff is funny. On another point do you ever have a day off this forum, try and get out once in a while. Had a lovely day at Sale golf club, couple of pints, curry and back home watching the PGA.
Just accept that people may have an alternative view to yours.
 
tweety said:
I said some of her stuff is funny. On another point do you ever have a day off this forum, try and get out once in a while. Had a lovely day at Sale golf club, couple of pints, curry and back home watching the PGA.
Just accept that people may have an alternative view to yours.
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This is the Bluemoon politics forum, that's never happening!
 
tweety said:
I said some of her stuff is funny. On another point do you ever have a day off this forum, try and get out once in a while. Had a lovely day at Sale golf club, couple of pints, curry and back home watching the PGA.
Just accept that people may have an alternative view to yours.
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I have a flight to Sweden very shortly, off to do the Gothenburg Half Marathon Saturday and more importantly some beers after. Sure I’ll squeeze in some time for Bluemoon at some point though.
 
tweety said:
I said some of her stuff is funny. On another point do you ever have a day off this forum, try and get out once in a while. Had a lovely day at Sale golf club, couple of pints, curry and back home watching the PGA.
Just accept that people may have an alternative view to yours.
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Shes an odious wretched horrible spiteful hate filled **** of a woman. Your day sounds great though, hope you enjoyed sounds like my time off
 
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