President Trump

[Grassland Blue]

After you expressing admiration for Katie Hopkins the other day and being hostile to people who don't like Trump today, who’s next on your list of heroes? Putin or Farage?

Netanyahu....

 

[Hgblue2]

Populism at its finest

It's interesting the way that populism is always used as a pejorative by the majority on here, gives a real insight into the mentality.

Populism is a response to the failure of the elite (politicians, media, legal etc) to address the concerns of the people.

Not only do they fail to address them, they mock and insult their fellow citizens who suffer from the policies they support.

For example, the so called free trade with China, and the off shoring of manufacturing, which has devastated communities across America, was cheered on by the coastal elites who were largely unaffected by the consequences.

The numerous wars pushed by the neocons and neolibs, to spread 'Western values' at the point of a gun, were largely fought by the sons and daughters of American patriots, who believed the bare faced lies the elite class told to get them there.

The repeated and consistent refusal by the elites to listen to and address the concerns of their citizens regarding the high levels of immigration being pushed on a reluctant and increasingly disgruntled population. Not just a failure to address them, but an active disdain and derision shown to their own voters, as they actively increase immigration numbers.

The many cultural assaults that have been pushed by the progressive types aimed at undermining the basic building blocks of most Western societies, family, faith, patriotism, the very existence of a common and unifying culture that brings us all together.

So people are rebelling against the system and are turning to politicians outside the mainstream because the mainstream politicians have failed them, this is populism.

 

[MouldensChippy]

Netanyahu....

Another one who surely has proof ?

Or is it just another hit and run because I don't happen to agree with one of your 'universal truths' ?

 

[flook]

Bet you'll all love it if you've paid hundreds of pounds for a ticket to the match when suddenly, at a throw in, a player turns around, grabs a microphone and starts lecturing you. :-)

You know what, if said player was to use that opportunity to speak out against fascism or any other form of erosion of democracy, or against genoside or ethnic cleansing or other such deeply significant occurrence, then yes I'd love it and I'd applaud the fucker too whichever team he played for.

Some things are more important than you being entertained princess

 

[ChicagoBlue]

That second paragraph is MAGA-like - so because I disagree with his actions (albeit not his sentiment), you make assumptions?

Even if my favourite artists did this, I'd have the same opinion.

What you don’t seem to understand is that Bruce is the very person he showed himself to be, which is why I said what I said.

“MAGA-like”? Give it a rest.

 

[MouldensChippy]

You know what, if said player was to use that opportunity to speak out against fascism or any other form of erosion of democracy, or against genoside or ethnic cleansing or other such deeply significant occurrence, then yes I'd love it and I'd applaud the fucker too whichever team he played for.

Some things are more important than you being entertained princess

I'm sure you would.... ;-)

Did you congratulate the guy who zip tied himself to the post at Goodison, or would have if you'd paid £100 notes for a ticket ?

Or how about the guy who threw the orange paint at the world snooker championship ?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Been to a few of them matey, love Springsteen, but this was crap.

Next thing you know he'll be thinking that he's Bono and pretending to phone the White House live on stage..... :-)

After all how many votes for the mid terms does he think he's going to raise in Manchester ?

It is a very current issue and Bruce is an outspoken political voice about America…the REAL AMERICA, as he called it…and it was apropos of this moment.

Hard to believe anyone who knows Bruce has anything negative to say about a couple of minutes of personal thoughts in a 3 hour show, but there’s whiny cunts everywhere, I guess!

 

[Grassland Blue]

Another one who surely has proof ?

Or is it just another hit and run because I don't happen to agree with one of your 'universal truths' ?

Tongue in cheek mate.
Tongue in cheek.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

It's interesting the way that populism is always used as a pejorative by the majority on here, gives a real insight into the mentality.

Populism is a response to the failure of the elite (politicians, media, legal etc) to address the concerns of the people.

Not only do they fail to address them, they mock and insult their fellow citizens who suffer from the policies they support.

For example, the so called free trade with China, and the off shoring of manufacturing, which has devastated communities across America, was cheered on by the coastal elites who were largely unaffected by the consequences.

The numerous wars pushed by the neocons and neolibs, to spread 'Western values' at the point of a gun, were largely fought by the sons and daughters of American patriots, who believed the bare faced lies the elite class told to get them there.

The repeated and consistent refusal by the elites to listen to and address the concerns of their citizens regarding the high levels of immigration being pushed on a reluctant and increasingly disgruntled population. Not just a failure to address them, but an active disdain and derision shown to their own voters, as they actively increase immigration numbers.

The many cultural assaults that have been pushed by the progressive types aimed at undermining the basic building blocks of most Western societies, family, faith, patriotism, the very existence of a common and unifying culture that brings us all together.

So people are rebelling against the system and are turning to politicians outside the mainstream because the mainstream politicians have failed them, this is populism.

Guess what.. that manufacturing is not coming back. It may move away from China into other cheaper countries but it's not coming back. Even China is now looking into replacing trivial jobs with high tech ones.

And as far as immigration goes.. who does the back breaking work in restaurants, fields, grocery stores, animal farms? Do you see Americans looking for that kinda jobs at $7.25 an hour? Well do you?

The problems exist but the solution isn't Maga fascism but instead UBS Socialism.

And FFS stop blaming coastal elites. The Nevada, Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri elites like Koch, Adelson, Favre are equally if not more guilty with their FYGM attitudes and moving manufacturing overseas.

 

[MouldensChippy]

It is a very current issue and Bruce is an outspoken political voice about America…the REAL AMERICA, as he called it…and it was apropos of this moment.

Hard to believe anyone who knows Bruce has anything negative to say about a couple of minutes of personal thoughts in a 3 hour show, but there’s whiny cunts everywhere, I guess!

So tell us, how many votes for the mid terms did he pick up in Manchester UK ?

How many of those people were shamed for voting Trump, oh no, that's your game in REAL AMERICA where you all voted the **** in.....

What does he expect those people to do about it ?

Are you counting Bruce in as one of the whiny cunts ? ;-o

 

[ChicagoBlue]

So tell us, how many votes for the mid terms did he pick up in Manchester UK ?

How many of those people were shamed for voting Trump, oh no, that's your game in REAL AMERICA where you all voted the **** in.....

What does he expect those people to do about it ?

Are you counting Bruce in as one of the whiny cunts ? ;-o

Stop showing your ignorance and dragging straw men through the room.

 

[Grassland Blue]

You know what, if said player was to use that opportunity to speak out against fascism or any other form of erosion of democracy, or against genoside or ethnic cleansing or other such deeply significant occurrence, then yes I'd love it and I'd applaud the fucker too whichever team he played for.

Some things are more important than you being entertained princess

The whole idea of sport, theatre etc. is to distract us from our miserable real lives.
I would prefer if politics , religion, etc. were kept well away from the circus I happen to be attending.

 

[noseve]

What you don’t seem to understand is that Bruce is the very person he showed himself to be, which is why I said what I said.

“MAGA-like”? Give it a rest.

This is your second paragraph, which I referred to as MAGA-like:

Or, you could just stay home with your AirPods in and listen to your Kid Rock album if you don’t want the Bruce experience!

Why would you assume that I don't like him, simply because I didn't agree with one aspect of his behaviour?

I treat each action on its merits, as I do each post on here, irrespective of who created it. I've probably 'liked' some of your posts in the past (I tend to read them without looking at the poster's identity).

I wasn't trying to be offensive, but your all-or-nothing approach is different to mine and reminds me of the MAGA approach to any difference of opinion, that's all.

 

[MouldensChippy]

Stop showing your ignorance and dragging straw men through the room.

Now that's funny.....

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I though Chyyna paid the tariff's?

 

[TinFoilHat]

He'll want the US to be in Eurovision next year.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

Springsteen has access to a mike - or prime-time chat - any time he wants it.

He doesn't need to - and is wrong to - force it down the throats of a captive audience. That audience didn't pay serious money because of his powerful political rhetoric. They wanted to hear his songs.

Of course, if he brings out a single of his speech and it reaches the charts, I'll happily agree that I'm wrong.

Saw U2 a number of years ago, and Bono's political rants, lasted that long they could have played 3 more songs.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

It's interesting the way that populism is always used as a pejorative by the majority on here, gives a real insight into the mentality.

Populism is a response to the failure of the elite (politicians, media, legal etc) to address the concerns of the people.

Not only do they fail to address them, they mock and insult their fellow citizens who suffer from the policies they support.

For example, the so called free trade with China, and the off shoring of manufacturing, which has devastated communities across America, was cheered on by the coastal elites who were largely unaffected by the consequences.

The numerous wars pushed by the neocons and neolibs, to spread 'Western values' at the point of a gun, were largely fought by the sons and daughters of American patriots, who believed the bare faced lies the elite class told to get them there.

The repeated and consistent refusal by the elites to listen to and address the concerns of their citizens regarding the high levels of immigration being pushed on a reluctant and increasingly disgruntled population. Not just a failure to address them, but an active disdain and derision shown to their own voters, as they actively increase immigration numbers.

The many cultural assaults that have been pushed by the progressive types aimed at undermining the basic building blocks of most Western societies, family, faith, patriotism, the very existence of a common and unifying culture that brings us all together.

So people are rebelling against the system and are turning to politicians outside the mainstream because the mainstream politicians have failed them, this is populism.

So Donald Trump — a billionaire from New York — isn’t a coastal elite?

So then the real issue is . . . those who support populism in the face of no recession for a decade and a half, no stagflation for 50 years, low unemployment, high incomes, one of the worlds highest standards of living, the world’s greatest university system (including hundreds of colleges which can be attended free or at low cost via the CC route or, if one works hard in school, the state university systems), near record low unemployment and near record high job openings, access to nearly any good or service imaginable, no war that directly involves Americans, freedom inside to law to say what one pleases, and access to technology in hundreds of thousands of free locations . . . elected a coastal elite (who is also a pathological lying convicted felon, mind) because he told them their lives were actually shit and it was immigrants, judges and democrats to blame? They BELIEVED a coastal elite?

Huh.

 

[Blue Mist]

He'll want the US to be in Eurovision next year.

Well Israel are so why not let Trumpland join?

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Saw U2 a number of years ago, and Bono's political rants, lasted that long they could have played 3 more songs.

If someone went to a U2 concert and didn’t know that was going to happen, that person should have a cranial CAT scan like yesterday.