We’re not on our own here. Most fans of all prem teams are pretty similar. Palace are a bit of a one-off though, so Why are they a one off? I reckon it’s because that group of fans must have some massive extraordinary personalities to organise what they do. That is not to say 1894 group don’t have totally dedicated blue bloodied fans dedicating their time to create the best atmosphere which must be some task. But I’m sure hundreds of fans at City would love to be part of a more ultra experience? And yes you’re right , those that don’t join in singing can pi55 right off with their opinions on improving the atmosphere.