The Labour Government

metalblue said:
I know when Mrs MB moved departments in her last trust it took something like 5 months for HR to do it all. They’d (HR) manufactured a process where they didn’t look at the job offer (to formalise it) for 3 months. They’d manufactured this bottleneck/delay but the CEO looks at that and thinks HR are incredibly busy and can’t lose anyone. So the budget cut focus moves elsewhere. There are undoubtedly huge inefficiencies in some parts of every trust and some parts deeply underfunded/under staffed. This is where the argument that the NHS is properly funded comes from.

In her current department I understand the trust gets paid a little extra for every patient contact. That’s extra revenue there for the CEO. A B5 on a ward doesn’t “generate” extra trust revenue. Now when they review the budget for that department later this year she might not continue in her job if the money she brings in doesn’t cover her role. We seem to be at a junction where money not patients are the primary driver. It’s a bit of a mess really.

As I’ve said before Streeting does appear to be a politician across his brief (refreshingly) so once he gets a handle on it I do expect some rethinks (assuming he can persuade Reeves anyway). As it’s now in the mainstream press they won’t have any excuses if they don’t.
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lol.

You are correct, the trust gets paid for each CNS contact in the clinic. The kicker is…..
14 months into the 2 year fixed contract the IT system is not set up to record them, nor the 2014 phone calls I have received either!
 
west didsblue said:
Another re-write of history.
I simply pointed out she had educational and work experience in the field for which she is responsible for which is unusual for most politicians.

Not really sure what you expected of her in her first job in her 20’s. I would have thought that being sent to work abroad in Washington would not be a role given to someone useless. Also taking voluntary redundancy is hardly being booted out but I’m sure you know that.

Like I say, keep digging.
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Like turning up as a consultant surgeon with a St John's ambulance First aid certificate, its experience of a sort .
She is way out of her depth, it's only a matter of time, Starmer would pull the trigger now if the politics didn't look so bad.
 
west didsblue said:
Always makes me laugh the “Rachel from accounts” slur when she has a bachelors degree in PPE (E for Economics) and a masters degree in Economics. She’s educationally the most qualified chancellor we’ve had in years and she actually has worked for the BoE and HBOS picking up valuable experience. She’s someone who actually has an in depth understanding of her brief which is rare for a politician.
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Don't disagree about the nature of the slur but I'm not sure I'd be holding that degree up as a badge of honour. A PPE degree rattles along and covers just enough ground at just about enough depth to convince the often already highly ambitious students that they actually have a firm grasp of proceedings and therefore do in fact know best, when in reality they know enough to sound plausible but lack any substantive depth. If you wanted to build a way of creating an over confident political class you'd design this qualification. In a competition on which of late has fucked up our country more, Eton and the Oxford PPE are probably in a photofinish !
 
threespires said:
Don't disagree about the nature of the slur but I'm not sure I'd be holding that degree up as a badge of honour. A PPE degree rattles along and covers just enough ground at just about enough depth to convince the often already highly ambitious students that they actually have a firm grasp of proceedings and therefore do in fact know best, when in reality they know enough to sound plausible but lack any substantive depth. If you wanted to build a way of creating an over confident political class you'd design this qualification. In a competition on which of late has fucked up our country more, Eton and the Oxford PPE are probably in a photofinish !
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Honestly, after the last 15 years or so, I'd say a PPE degree from Oxford should disqualify you from any political office in the land.
 
west didsblue said:
Always makes me laugh the “Rachel from accounts” slur when she has a bachelors degree in PPE (E for Economics) and a masters degree in Economics. She’s educationally the most qualified chancellor we’ve had in years and she actually has worked for the BoE and HBOS picking up valuable experience. She’s someone who actually has an in depth understanding of her brief which is rare for a politician.
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Yeah yeah but Maggie Thatcher ran her grocery shop she had to buy and sell carrots and potatoes... She actually knew the price of a cauliflower :)
 
threespires said:
Don't disagree about the nature of the slur but I'm not sure I'd be holding that degree up as a badge of honour. A PPE degree rattles along and covers just enough ground at just about enough depth to convince the often already highly ambitious students that they actually have a firm grasp of proceedings and therefore do in fact know best, when in reality they know enough to sound plausible but lack any substantive depth. If you wanted to build a way of creating an over confident political class you'd design this qualification. In a competition on which of late has fucked up our country more, Eton and the Oxford PPE are probably in a photofinish !
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Have you done a PPE degree? Because my brother is doing one at the moment and of all the things I'd accuse the syllabus of, "lacking substantive depth" isn't one of them.
 
Damocles said:
Have you done a PPE degree? Because my brother is doing one at the moment and of all the things I'd accuse the syllabus of, "lacking substantive depth" isn't one of them.
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No I haven't but I've known, worked and socialised with people who have. Though I haven't seen him in years I also used to know a Master at Eton who was very familiar with the degree.

The curriculum is extremely demanding and unless it's changed the students write a huge number of essays on an extensive number of subjects. Imo that's part of the problem, for a certain type of student it creates an illusory level of confidence when in practice it should create a level of critical thinking and understanding of complexity that should ultimately encourage intellectual (and to some degree practical) humility. Of the two people I know well enough to comment on this one exhibits the latter but the other displays a degree of intellectual arrogance that blinds them to their own biases and sometimes quite faulty logic. Do you want to guess which of the two went into public life? My point is that that degree combined with a certain type of person who is attracted to that degree is a dangerous combination.
 
west didsblue said:
Agree they’re not always good at putting across their vision which is important. But it’s more important that they know what they’re doing.
I know a Treasury civil servant who can vouch for the fact that she is very capable.
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I’ve no reason to think she’s not well versed in her subject matter or doesn’t understand her brief, but it’s the distinction between being technical astute and being political astute that makes or breaks a politician. We’ve yet to see much of the later, but in her defence she’s new at it - and that goes for much of the government so isn’t singling her out.

I do like they are not afraid to reconsider previous policy such as the way WFA was implemented. That gives me hope.
 
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