Referees’ Performances | 2024/2025

I thought Madley was okay for both of us today. Credit where it's due.
Agreed been watching him lately not my favourite but credit to him he’s improved immensely lets the game flow now and wasn’t a difficult game today but but did very well would say he’s top 3 now
 
Dont think VAR are allowed to intervene in this instance! Ref already blew!!
That's where the system is a joke. They can change the game or do nothing, all based on whether the ref has blown or not rather than if it was an error or not.

In a situation like the Villa disallowed goal today, that's where it's needed. Had to feel for them on that basis. Didn't help that it was Diallo score for the rags shortly afterwards, he looks like a right cocky little twat. I know not many feel any sympathy for Villa but imagine if we had gone out like that?

Something wrong with the game though when Martinez gets sent off for stopping a clear and obvious goalscoring opportunity when the attacking player was heading closer to the corner flag than the net, whereas Haaland was completely in on goal on the edge of the D and virtually certain to score last week. If the Martinez incident is a certain sending off, it leaves the Henderson one beyond debate.

Point is, the way the standard of refereeing is going, it's a question of when rather than if. It cost us the FA Cup this year, it could cost us the title next year.
 
The rules...

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:
  • the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
  • holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
  • bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).

I think the ref. called it wrong because I don't think Utd keeper was in control of the ball under this definition.

However, Villa played an awful game and Emery should be receiving a lot of criticism for very negative play.
Yes but it's like the Henderson incident last week, it that had stood they probably win the match or at least get a point, which would have seen them through.
 
The red card for Martinez makes the Henderson non-red even more indefensible. Yesterday’s incident was about 10 yards further away from goal, about ten yards wider from the goal and the ball was travelling at a wider angle away from the goal even than after Henderson had knocked it wide.
 
Aston Villa can confirm the club has written to the PGMOL to raise concerns over the selection process of match officials following today’s game with Manchester United at Old Trafford.

With such high stakes surrounding today’s fixture, the club believe a more experienced referee should have been appointed. Of the 10 referees to officiate across the Premier League today, Mr. Bramall was the 2nd least experienced.

The decision to disallow Morgan Rogers’ goal, which would have given the club a 1-0 lead with 17 minutes remaining in the match, was a major contributing factor to the club not qualifying for the Champions League.

As per the standards that have been established over the course of the season, a decision to whistle early is clearly inconsistent with current refereeing guidelines. VAR exists to ensure that these types of situations receive the scrutiny they deserve. Unfortunately, the technology was not allowed to serve its purpose.

Ultimately, we acknowledge that the outcome for us will not change, but we believe that it is important to address the selection methodology to ensure that high stakes matches are treated as such with regards to officiating and to ensure that the implemented VAR technology is allowed to be effective.

 
We got away with the Dias handball today. Should have been a penalty.
Can’t give that when a direct shot on goal at Wembley against Forest (that was going in) isn’t given. You’re suffering from years of conditioning by uefa PL & Pigmol :) they normally save those for the big games…
I did wonder a while back, whether referees & VAR officials have a list of decisions that they’ve given (collectively) that they study before games, and have reference to in the VAR room, a bit like how courtrooms reference old cases/judgments, when a precedent is set in law
 
Aston Villa can confirm the club has written to the PGMOL to raise concerns over the selection process of match officials following today’s game with Manchester United at Old Trafford.

With such high stakes surrounding today’s fixture, the club believe a more experienced referee should have been appointed. Of the 10 referees to officiate across the Premier League today, Mr. Bramall was the 2nd least experienced.

The decision to disallow Morgan Rogers’ goal, which would have given the club a 1-0 lead with 17 minutes remaining in the match, was a major contributing factor to the club not qualifying for the Champions League.

As per the standards that have been established over the course of the season, a decision to whistle early is clearly inconsistent with current refereeing guidelines. VAR exists to ensure that these types of situations receive the scrutiny they deserve. Unfortunately, the technology was not allowed to serve its purpose.

Ultimately, we acknowledge that the outcome for us will not change, but we believe that it is important to address the selection methodology to ensure that high stakes matches are treated as such with regards to officiating and to ensure that the implemented VAR technology is allowed to be effective.


That’s absolute bullshit. Referees whistling straight away for fouls isn’t inconsistent with any current refereeing guidelines.
 
That’s absolute bullshit. Referees whistling straight away for fouls isn’t inconsistent with any current refereeing guidelines.

That's not why they are doing it. It's because they have lost revenue, to placate the fans and to get favourable treatment next season.

But they forgot they don't play in red.
 
So how come if the ref blows up VAR can’t get involved didn’t it get involved to give the rags a pen against Brighton when ref had blew up for FT ..
Ref blowing whistle stops play so VAR can't investigate
If a ref blows for full time but the incident occurs before the whistle and VAR is investigating then it is still in play and they can go back to take the pen even if the game has ended
 
To put such an inexperienced ref in a pivotal game was brainless by PGMOL, especially with Rob Jones getting the pointless Spurs v BHA fixture.

Convenient or just a massive misjudgement??????
 
To put such an inexperienced ref in a pivotal game was brainless by PGMOL, especially with Rob Jones getting the pointless Spurs v BHA fixture.

Convenient or just a massive misjudgement??????

That's just pathetic whingeing from Villa. They don't really believe that.
 

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