Incident at Liverpool Title Parade May 26th

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The fact that Liverpool fans were able to attack a team coach, in full view of the police, and noone be arrested at the time, or after an investigation, didn't exactly send out a strong signal that this sort of behaviour was unacceptable and justice would prevail. It may not have prevented yesterday but it was an awful signal to send out.

Not sure why the coach attack has anything to do with it, it’s completely different, those tosspot fans throwing stuff at the Man City coach and what happened was mindless thuggery and some doing it for a laugh and totally agree they should have clamped down and made some arrests that day, no debate there at all.

That however is the complete opposite to what i saw in the clip, it looks like those attacking the car were doing so as they felt the car was being reckless and endangering others, I am speculating here as don’t know the full picture, just the point was I don’t feel those hitting the car were doing it for a laugh, felt there was some purpose as the car driver was being reckless and it tipped over the edge when he reversed back into that guy - also highlight no other cars were being hit, smashed or attacked and there was one ahead of him.
 
Not sure why the coach attack has anything to do with it, it’s completely different, those tosspot fans throwing stuff at the Man City coach and what happened was mindless thuggery and some doing it for a laugh and totally agree they should have clamped down and made some arrests that day, no debate there at all.

That however is the complete opposite to what i saw in the clip, it looks like those attacking the car were doing so as they felt the car was being reckless and endangering others, I am speculating here as don’t know the full picture, just the point was I don’t feel those hitting the car were doing it for a laugh, felt there was some purpose as the car driver was being reckless and it tipped over the edge when he reversed back into that guy - also highlight no other cars were being hit, smashed or attacked and there was one ahead of him.
Righty-ho
 
You never accept anything do you? You said the driver must have been reckless because the behaviour of the mob. I said (a) that’s speculation and (b) our team coach and fans coaches were smashed up by the fanbase and weren’t being reckless. So you were wrong, you should accept your wrong, but you won’t because you’re a stupid tit. I can’t help that

Edit - and actually you’ve never posted anything half sensible, including your shite about Southgate, so I’m doing what I should have done ages ago and blocking you, you crashing bore

Ok good for you.
 
Not sure why the coach attack has anything to do with it, it’s completely different, those tosspot fans throwing stuff at the Man City coach and what happened was mindless thuggery and some doing it for a laugh and totally agree they should have clamped down and made some arrests that day, no debate there at all.

That however is the complete opposite to what i saw in the clip, it looks like those attacking the car were doing so as they felt the car was being reckless and endangering others, I am speculating here as don’t know the full picture, just the point was I don’t feel those hitting the car were doing it for a laugh, felt there was some purpose as the car driver was being reckless and it tipped over the edge when he reversed back into that guy - also highlight no other cars were being hit, smashed or attacked and there was one ahead of him.
How unlike you.

The poster eloquently explains why he mentions our coach attack.
 
Not sure why the coach attack has anything to do with it, it’s completely different, those tosspot fans throwing stuff at the Man City coach and what happened was mindless thuggery and some doing it for a laugh and totally agree they should have clamped down and made some arrests that day, no debate there at all.

That however is the complete opposite to what i saw in the clip, it looks like those attacking the car were doing so as they felt the car was being reckless and endangering others, I am speculating here as don’t know the full picture, just the point was I don’t feel those hitting the car were doing it for a laugh, felt there was some purpose as the car driver was being reckless and it tipped over the edge when he reversed back into that guy - also highlight no other cars were being hit, smashed or attacked and there was one ahead of him.
The example is proving they have previous, without being provoked and a mob mentality. It wasn't a couple with our coach. There is footage which shows it all.

That doesn't mean yesterday was ok, doesn't even hold much relevance. You have decided a narrative based on speculation, rather than from the information and footage we all know/ have seen. They wouldn't have attacked his car for a laugh as you say, him speeding up trying to get away in that manner also wouldn't have happened for a laugh would it.
 
Fucking King Charles now expressing shock at the events of yesterday. While I think we all on here agree our well wishes to those innocents impacted I don't think a single one of us would claim to be "shocked" that a terrible incident occurred while the pissed up, aggressive , blame absolving Liverpool fans act in a way that creates a situation where many innocents are hurt due to their reckless behaviour. If anything I would be shocked if the day passed without incident.
 
The example is proving they have previous, without being provoked and a mob mentality. It wasn't a couple with our coach. There is footage which shows it all.

That doesn't mean yesterday was ok, doesn't even hold much relevance. You have decided a narrative based on speculation, rather than from the information and footage we all know/ have seen. They wouldn't have attacked his car for a laugh as you say, him speeding up trying to get away in that manner also wouldn't have happened for a laugh would it.

My only point was it didn’t seem like some of those attacking the car were doing it out of mindless thuggery or for a laugh, that really was my only point.
 
INSANE if true. Obviously we know how fucking useless them cunts are, but govt enquiry needed into Merseyside and council imo.

Part of the Strand and Water Street from above.

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Looking down water Street to the junction with the Strand. The parade finished further down the Strand to your left, but the whole of the Strand would have been full of Liverpool fans.

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Looking up Water Street where the incident would have occurred. I could pin point the exact location by finding the adjacent buildings.

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Castle Street meets Water Street where Liverpool Town Hall is. Aerial picture.
 
Fucking King Charles now expressing shock at the events of yesterday. While I think we all on here agree our well wishes to those innocents impacted I don't think a single one of us would claim to be "shocked" that a terrible incident occurred while the pissed up, aggressive , blame absolving Liverpool fans act in a way that creates a situation where many innocents are hurt due to their reckless behaviour. If anything I would be shocked if the day passed without incident.

plenty of shock and surprise on the opening first few pages.
 
That however is the complete opposite to what i saw in the clip, it looks like those attacking the car were doing so as they felt the car was being reckless and endangering others, I am speculating here as don’t know the full picture, just the point was I don’t feel those hitting the car were doing it for a laugh, felt there was some purpose as the car driver was being reckless and it tipped over the edge when he reversed back into that guy - also highlight no other cars were being hit, smashed or attacked and there was one ahead of him.
Yep, agree with this. I've seen some videos that seem to vindicate the driver to some extent, but then like the previous narrative, you have to ask what came before the clip you're seeing. It seems like from both the driver and a few of the pedestrians were keen to escalate whatever happened previously rather than calm the situation down and it escalated to a tragic end. But one thing that is common between this and the City coach attack is the failure of policing. Why was there even a situation where cars were driving on a road with a bunch of people who you know are going to be pissed up after enjoying the parade?
 
My only point was it didn’t seem like some of those attacking the car were doing it out of mindless thuggery or for a laugh, that really was my only point.
Maybe, so we can only go off what we can see. Which is a driver slowly navigating around a crowd. I didn't see anything that justifies smashing the fuck out of his car. That isn't to say something didn't happen to make them react like that. With the fans involved having previous it doesn't allow as much grace as maybe with others. For now we can only comment on what we know and see and that is an incident that could have been avoided by both fans and the driver.
 
The trouble is Liverpool don't have an amazing fan base, they have exactly the same fan base as every other club in the world; some good fans, some noisy fans, some quiet fans, some old fans, some young fans, some fans from the local area and some from further afield.
What they do have though is a much, much larger contingency of knob heads following them than other fan bases, in large part due to the way they refused to take any responsibility for Heysel and the way the club dodged any and all allegations for their fans involvement.
This lack of accountability or remorse from the club then attracts the type of people who think that bricking opposition coaches, jibbing in to games to the point they're overcrowded and fans wirh tickets are locked out (Istanbul, Paris, etc), spitting at opposition managers, throwing pint pots full of coins into random crowds, etc, etc, ad nauseum is part of what it means to be a 'real' Liverpool fan. The fact that all these incidents are either enabled, covered up, minimised or dismissed by the club, the Merseyside Police and the media attracts the kind of people who enjoy doing this shit with impunity. At any other ground in the country would a fan spitting and throwing things at opposition managers be escorted to another part of the ground? Not a chance, they'd be rightly banned from the stadium.
Every club has its share of knobheads, we've got plenty of coked up fuckwits following us and plenty of people have jibbed in to games before but it isn't on a scale where it's a defining characteristic of the support of the club, or any other club in fact, as that kind of behaviour is either kept quiet so it's in small numbers like jibbing in or violent fans get removed and banned thus squashing this behaviour before it starts.
The problem Liverpool have is they need the club and the media to start calling out this behaviour but they're all so terrified if being accused of using the H word that they won't do it and so the behaviour continues attracting more fuckwits which makes the behaviour worse which then attracts more fuckwits continuing rhe whole sorry cycle.
What happened in Liverpool yesterday could quite literally have happened anywhere though but if the incident is as it appears, caused by alcohol, drugs and violence, then it was always more likely to happen at a Liverpool event due to the nature of the people they attract and the way they're taught to be 'real' Liverpool fans. The actual normal, nice people who follow them are powerless to change this though, it has to come from the club, the police and the media saying enough's enough.

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It's no surprise that trouble follow lfc.

We can all see it but as you say the press/media are shit scared to tell the truth. If the do they lose their jobs.

The only trouble in the last decade at a CL final, yep you guessed it dippers with fake tickets. Something the club asked for instead of electric tickets. Why ?

Yet again the innocent liverpool fans get hurt because of their behaviour. Buy will the innocent fans named them and report them to the police ? Doubt it.
Did the innocent fans call out the ones with fake tickets ?
Did the innocent fans report the fans involved in the coach attack ?
Did the innocent fans report the thug that throw the pint pot ?.

Yes I feel really sorry for the innocent fans who again have been hurt by the actions of fellow liverpool fans.

What will it take for the innocent liverpool fans to stand up and report the thugs.

Hopefully the police have the names of the thugs that attack the car as they played apart in this
 
Fucking King Charles now expressing shock at the events of yesterday. While I think we all on here agree our well wishes to those innocents impacted I don't think a single one of us would claim to be "shocked" that a terrible incident occurred while the pissed up, aggressive , blame absolving Liverpool fans act in a way that creates a situation where many innocents are hurt due to their reckless behaviour. If anything I would be shocked if the day passed without incident.
Not sure why people are bothered about the well wishes being bestowed on the victims and commenting on the incident as a whole. Regardless of how this incident has come about, the fact that 65 people were hospitalised or treated at the scene shows the scale of it. Of course well wishes are going to be given by a whole range of people, including those in power.
 
plenty of shock and surprise on the opening first few pages.

I was shocked and surprised when I thought it was possibly terrorism-related initially. As it came to look less likely that was the reason, and more to do with idiotic behaviour, I became less shocked and surprised.
 
Arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, reckless and dangerous driving and driving whilst high on drugs.

****.

Makes sense. I can imagine a coked-up (speculation) dickheads getting annoyed if people were banging on their car. And reacting badly one way or another.
 
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It's no surprise that trouble follow lfc.

We can all see it but as you say the press/media are shit scared to tell the truth. If the do they lose their jobs.

The only trouble in the last decade at a CL final, yep you guessed it dippers with fake tickets. Something the club asked for instead of electric tickets. Why ?

Yet again the innocent liverpool fans get hurt because of their behaviour. Buy will the innocent fans named them and report them to the police ? Doubt it.
Did the innocent fans call out the ones with fake tickets ?
Did the innocent fans report the fans involved in the coach attack ?
Did the innocent fans report the thug that throw the pint pot ?.

Yes I feel really sorry for the innocent fans who again have been hurt by the actions of fellow liverpool fans.

What will it take for the innocent liverpool fans to stand up and report the thugs.

Hopefully the police have the names of the thugs that attack the car as they played apart in this
Illegally gathered when they last won the league, set fireworks off at the liver building and there was a stabbing. Only two CL finals have been delayed in starting and one club was involved in the two ( I believe that is true) It follows them and sadly their innocent fans get caught up in the thuggery of the others.
 
Makes sense. I can imagine a coked-up (speculation) dickheads getting annoyed if people were banging on their car. And reacting badly one way or another.
Also confirmed an ambulance had access to that road to help someone in distress, and the driver of the S-Max followed it in.
 
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