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This is fucking ghoulish - whilst we debate assisted dying the USA is at the stage of "fuck 'em they are poor they are disabled they are worthless let them die anyway"

 
JASR said:
I thought on that day (ish) they did rise up against the tyrannical govt and stormed Congress. Just they went under different names … proud boys, oath keepers, maga complete fuckwits…
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They rose up against the incoming democratically elected government because Mango Shitgibbon threw a fit after losing the election.
 
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"Will not tolerate rioting and violence"?

He was practically begging for it on Jan 6 2020 you daft ****. What's changed?

Oh yes, that's right, they are protesting against his draconian and potentially illegal use of ICE to target people he doesn't like.

Fucking Hillbilly Hypocrite.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
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"Will not tolerate rioting and violence"?

He was practically begging for it on Jan 6 2020 you daft ****. What's changed?

Oh yes, that's right, they are protesting against his draconian and potentially illegal use of ICE to target people he doesn't like.

Fucking Hillbilly Hypocrite.
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The dangerous twat is geeing him up like he did against Zelenskyy
 
Truth is powerful when it's not suppressed, but in a conflict.. the first casualty is the truth:

 
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Well, this happened today. A police officer appeared to deliberately fire a non-leathal round at a news reporter.

The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".

Attacking the press in an attempt to silence them is a direct attack on the Constitution.

 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
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"Will not tolerate rioting and violence"?

He was practically begging for it on Jan 6 2020 you daft ****. What's changed?

Oh yes, that's right, they are protesting against his draconian and potentially illegal use of ICE to target people he doesn't like.

Fucking Hillbilly Hypocrite.
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Did you notice Trump using some “key words” in the hope that no courts can step in…

“Invaded”
“Occupied”
“Insurrectionist”

These are all “legal” words of justification that can be pointed to.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Well, this happened today. A police officer appeared to deliberately fire a non-leathal round at a news reporter.

The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".

Attacking the press in an attempt to silence them is a direct attack on the Constitution.

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I hope the Australian PM has a few choice words to say to, and possibly a few choice actions to take against, Trump!
 
Playing devils advocate here - what are the issues playing out at present in the US? I'm guessing ICE have gone into California to round up illegal immigrants who shouldn't be in the states as they're there illegally. Residents of said state don't want their colleagues/friends/families arrested (although possibly there illegally) and have taken offence to the way it's being done and rioted? To which the US government has sent the national guard in as a response to qwell and discourage further violence which has led to more violence etc
What are the US government supposed to do to when public unrest is evident on the streets? What's the end goal of the riots? Why burn parts of your own city and destroy it to try and prove a point? What if there are LOADS of illegals the US have arrested in this operation - they have broken a law and should be held accountable for breaking such laws.
Was sending the national guard in inflammatory or was the situation getting out of hand?
A lot of people want to bash Trump (i see why - he's a ****) but if i turn this around and make it in the UK and say London/Birmingham/Manchester had a clamp down on illegal immigrants and our version of ICE was trying to carry out orders from above like in California whose side would you be on? I for one would be allowing them to do their jobs - not rioting and causing a scene.
Not one post on here has said that the violence perpetrated by the public of California is wrong - why is that? Is people's dislike of the US or Trump or the law that bad that they think this is acceptable?
Again I'm playing devils advocate but rioting and destroying your own city whilst attacking people just doing the jobs they're paid for and have been asked to do ie the police/national guard/ICE etc seems ridiculous to me.
 
Drewmanc said:
Playing devils advocate here - what are the issues playing out at present in the US? I'm guessing ICE have gone into California to round up illegal immigrants who shouldn't be in the states as they're there illegally. Residents of said state don't want their colleagues/friends/families arrested (although possibly there illegally) and have taken offence to the way it's being done and rioted? To which the US government has sent the national guard in as a response to qwell and discourage further violence which has led to more violence etc
What are the US government supposed to do to when public unrest is evident on the streets? What's the end goal of the riots? Why burn parts of your own city and destroy it to try and prove a point? What if there are LOADS of illegals the US have arrested in this operation - they have broken a law and should be held accountable for breaking such laws.
Was sending the national guard in inflammatory or was the situation getting out of hand?
A lot of people want to bash Trump (i see why - he's a ****) but if i turn this around and make it in the UK and say London/Birmingham/Manchester had a clamp down on illegal immigrants and our version of ICE was trying to carry out orders from above like in California whose side would you be on? I for one would be allowing them to do their jobs - not rioting and causing a scene.
Not one post on here has said that the violence perpetrated by the public of California is wrong - why is that? Is people's dislike of the US or Trump or the law that bad that they think this is acceptable?
Again I'm playing devils advocate but rioting and destroying your own city whilst attacking people just doing the jobs they're paid for and have been asked to do ie the police/national guard/ICE etc seems ridiculous to me.
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ICE are rounding people up with no warrants or due process this is the problem, like the lad sent to El Salvador, who is back now (despite them saying he would never come back) they are literally ignoring the law, people are rightly pissed. You will always get the dicks burning stuff as an excuse.
 
Thank you for the response, I didn't get the jist from the news how this had started. Did Trump just drop a pin on California and say 'go there and do this' or is there a reasoning behind it? Like you i dont get the public destroying their own stuff that'll need replacing with their own tax dollars....
 
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