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Thank you for the response, I didn't get the jist from the news how this had started. Did Trump just drop a pin on California and say 'go there and do this' or is there a reasoning behind it? Like you i dont get the public destroying their own stuff that'll need replacing with their own tax dollars....
He is testing the waters for military control, he’s losing control, all his EOs are failing in the courts, he is TACO and he’s looking weaker all the time, this diverts from the Musk thing as well. If he sends in the marines it could get out of hand rapidly, they are not trained in civil stuff they are gung ho and they won’t hold back, that’s when people start to die.
 
Having worked overseas with US marines i dont doubt that at all....when everyone has guns shooting is going to start sadly.
 
He is testing the waters for military control, he’s losing control, all his EOs are failing in the courts, he is TACO and he’s looking weaker all the time, this diverts from the Musk thing as well. If he sends in the marines it could get out of hand rapidly, they are not trained in civil stuff they are gung ho and they won’t hold back, that’s when people start to die.
I’m sure the NRA will seize the opportunity to exercise their 2A and come out and support the ‘we the people’ against the tyranny of a fascist dictator… oh.

You hear them complain for 50 years, about the need for 2A, and then they fail to use that, not once (Jan 6th), but now likely twice… just at the times when for all the bluster spouted for years, the US (as a republic/democracy) is at most risk of falling.
 
It's the most genteel riot I've seen.
A few burnt cars, sporadic damage, an Aussie journo deliberately shot by a cop...

It seems to me that someone has amped up what is happening falsely and used it to suggest that Trump can go crazy authoritarian and bypass the governor. Trump almost certainly believes that LA is burning again.
 
ICE are rounding people up with no warrants or due process this is the problem, like the lad sent to El Salvador, who is back now (despite them saying he would never come back) they are literally ignoring the law, people are rightly pissed. You will always get the dicks burning stuff as an excuse.
Also worth noting there wasn’t “rioting” as such, there were protests. What ICE are doing has been deemed illegal and several Federal judges have told the Govt to stop doing it. Trump’s ICE has simply ignored the courts.

Also it’s not like the UK as States have their own sovereignty to a great extent and sending in the national guard against the wishes of the Governor is pretty much unprecedented one down from a dictatorship.
 
Also worth noting there wasn’t “rioting” as such, there were protests. What ICE are doing has been deemed illegal and several Federal judges have told the Govt to stop doing it. Trump’s ICE has simply ignored the courts.

Also it’s not like the UK as States have their own sovereignty to a great extent and sending in the national guard against the wishes of the Governor is pretty much unprecedented one down from a dictatorship.
I think Trump is definitely losing it, over the last few weeks, his tariffs have been deemed illegal, Musk has gone off on him and his big beautiful bill is in trouble. This will deflect from all that but it could lead to civil unrest across the country he will then go down the insurrection route. That is we’re it will get serious,the power he will have then he will not want to let go of and then I think the country will implode.
 
I think Trump is definitely losing it, over the last few weeks, his tariffs have been deemed illegal, Musk has gone off on him and his big beautiful bill is in trouble. This will deflect from all that but it could lead to civil unrest across the country he will then go down the insurrection route. That is we’re it will get serious,the power he will have then he will not want to let go of and then I think the country will implode.
Hopefully you lot and the team going over there can get back safe & sound while there's just bits of shit hitting the fan.
 
It's the most genteel riot I've seen.
A few burnt cars, sporadic damage, an Aussie journo deliberately shot by a cop...

It seems to me that someone has amped up what is happening falsely and used it to suggest that Trump can go crazy authoritarian and bypass the governor. Trump almost certainly believes that LA is burning again.
Don’t confuse riot with chaos. No riot but loads of chaos.
 
Well, this happened today. A police officer appeared to deliberately fire a non-leathal round at a news reporter.

The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".

Attacking the press in an attempt to silence them is a direct attack on the Constitution.


That’s incredible.
We really could be watching in real time the start of civil war.
Something very nasty going on.
 
That’s incredible.
We really could be watching in real time the start of civil war.
Something very nasty going on.
This administration has been begging for violence from day one so that they can invoke the Insurrection Act.

This essentially give them the right to use the military in a law enforcement role, which the administration will use to full effect. Trump wasn't joking when he said people wouldn't need to vote again. It's just happening a lot faster thn I thought it would.
 
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I turned on the news to watch someone drive a motorcycle into a crowd of police. It’s possible I’m totally out of touch but i’m struggling to have much sympathy for these people.
 
I turned on the news to watch someone drive a motorcycle into a crowd of police. It’s possible I’m totally out of touch but i’m struggling to have much sympathy for these people.
I turned on the news 4.5 years ago to see a crowd of insurrectionists, egged on by a man who was desperate to stay in power, attempt to overthrow the US Congress from certifying a fair election, whilst calling for the hanging of a vice president, the leader of the house and others. I’ve struggled to have sympathy for any Qanon or maga from way before then…
So not sure of your point.

Marching (or rather goose stepping) down the path of a fascistic dictatorship leaves people with little recourse to anything but violence to counter… especially when the very people who are meant to be stopping a tyrannical govt, 2A supporters, are nowhere to be seen with their arms.
 
I turned on the news 4.5 years ago to see a crowd of insurrectionists, egged on by a man who was desperate to stay in power, attempt to overthrow the US Congress from certifying a fair election, whilst calling for the hanging of a vice president, the leader of the house and others. I’ve struggled to have sympathy for any Qanon or maga from way before then…
So not sure of your point.

Marching (or rather goose stepping) down the path of a fascistic dictatorship leaves people with little recourse to anything but violence to counter… especially when the very people who are meant to be stopping a tyrannical govt, 2A supporters, are nowhere to be seen with their arms.
My point is that people who are prepared to throw things, vandalise and torch or drive vehicles at police are generally unpleasant, dangerous and violent people. Regardless of it being in Los Angeles or in Washington 4.5 years ago.

Not sure what your point was.
 
My point is that people who are prepared to throw things, vandalise and torch or drive vehicles at police are generally unpleasant, dangerous and violent people. Regardless of it being in Los Angeles or in Washington 4.5 years ago.

Not sure what your point was.
Will Trump pardon them all then!
 

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