He was great in the treble season, especially in the CL matches where we had to keep the ball. His best performance was Atleti away. But Jack has fallen off a cliff on and off the field. A lot of British players seem to struggle with their lifestyles and don't stay at the top for long. There are some exceptions of course (Frank Lampard etc) but they seem rare.Thats right, but the % reflect the +100 games he played for City.
According to ChatGPT, Man City win rate with Grealish is 77% compared to 70% without him
For me (Win%) should be the most important stat
If you have read closely this thread then people are saying he was worth £100m for that one parade photo onlySo for 4 out of 48 months he played like he was worth half his value?
Which in fairness is a young squad ..Not that young actually, 3 keepers, stones, ake, gundo, bernardo all over 30. Akanji 29. Rodri and Dias both 28, reijnders 26, soon to be 27.
Average will be about 25.5 as a rough guesstimate.
The whole thing has me confused to be honest, People making posts saying things like "Pep destroyed his value" others saying "Jack is a great player", If you ever needed proof that the saying "The heart wants what it wants" is true, just look through the pages on this thread. You would think we were talking about centurions Sane or Sterling reading through this thread or prime Yaya, and the crazy thing is that these players who performed at the highest level get thrashed and torn down easily by the same posters building Jack up to some kind of legend status. Human psychology is a very interesting topic.
To be fair he hasn’t played many games for the last couple of seasons and when he has played it has been against weaker teams.
Maybe an exaggeration on my part but I'm not saying any old £20m player would have played as well but that the role didn't exactly require a spectacular skillset. His job was still to mostly hold his position and be conservative on the ball. He wasn't skinning full backs, delivering outstanding passes or getting on the end of chances. He was a facilitator for the difference makers.
Nonsense.
Players form is the only stat that should be used.
I wonder if it's because he barely played this season, and last seasons he wa splaying with Rodri, and we barely ever lose with Rodri on our side.Grealish has started 1 PL defeat in the last 2 seasons and had 1 PL defeat in 7 starts this season which included games against Forest, Villa and Newcastle and 1 start against a relegated team. There were 8 PL defeats in 31 games when Grealish didn't start which therefore included 9 games against teams in the top 6 and 5 games against relegated teams - your assertion that 'when he has played it has been against weaker teams' is completely false.
And so what?
A balanced team that wins football matches doesn't need, or it isn't even desirable for them to have, 11 'difference makers'.
And you've just plucked an utterly fanciful £20m figure out of the air - if that's all that was needed to win the CL, why wasn't it won before?
and Jack alone was responsible for the cl win? That's like saying the octopus and Managla were responsible for Pellegrini's PL title. I mean why not? they were part of the team, right? That's the logic we are going by, correct?So a team that didn't win the CL is better than a team that did win the CL - that's the sort of mental gymnastics required on the Grealish threads.
I reserve my bile for Nigel Clough and Danny Mills. I suspect that many of those slating Grealish on this thread were previously slating Sterling. Let's hope the haters don't find a new scapegoat to obsess about next season.
And so what?
A balanced team that wins football matches doesn't need, or it isn't even desirable for them to have, 11 'difference makers'.
And you've just plucked an utterly fanciful £20m figure out of the air - if that's all that was needed to win the CL, why wasn't it won before?
and Jack alone was responsible for the cl win? That's like saying the octopus and Managla were responsible for Pellegrini's PL title. I mean why not? they were part of the team, right? That's the logic we are going by, correct?
It was worth £100 million of somebody’s else’s money to me.If you have read closely this thread then people are saying he was worth £100m for that one parade photo only
Even rags or dippers aren’t this dumb
If that comment was made by a rag or dipper you would have 200s for pages here of people mocking them
Yeah but that's the weird thing, isn't it? This is a thread about Jack so what's the point of saying "So a team that didn't win the CL is better than a team that did win the CL - that's the sort of mental gymnastics required on the Grealish threads." what does that have to do with anything?I think you missed the bit where he said team, twice actually, and invented the bit where he said Jack won it alone.
You know nothing about this club or even football for that matter. That picture was the greatest thing ever done on earth, at least that's what I have come to understand recentlyIf you have read closely this thread then people are saying he was worth £100m for that one parade photo only
Even rags or dippers aren’t this dumb
If that comment was made by a rag or dipper you would have 200s for pages here of people mocking them
Yeah but that's the weird thing, isn't it? This is a thread about Jack so what's the point of saying "So a team that didn't win the CL is better than a team that did win the CL - that's the sort of mental gymnastics required on the Grealish threads." what does that have to do with anything?
I am assuming he is referring to my point about Jack receiving more adulation than the likes of Sterling and Yaya and I am guessing the poster is saying people are right to rate Jack more than those other two mentioned because they never won the CL and Jack won the CL. If that is indeed what the poster is referring to, then are we saying Jack is a better player than both Yaya and Sterling because Jack was in the team that won the CL? is that how football works now? Sigh, this fucking thread
No chanceWonder is there anyway back for him?
Maybe this is a kick up the arse he needs?
Probably gone but I do love a comeback.
Thanks for clearing that up Pep. Thought I would ask -:)No chance