The FOC thread.

Watching the Noel Edmond’s documentary (yes he’s a weirdo) and they asked him does he not miss things from the U.K., his reply, the reason I moved was because of the things I missed. Now you might not like him but I thought that quite succinct I’ve heard New Zealand is almost like stepping back in time by about 30 years in their outlooks on life, crime rate etc.
 
Sunday "dinner"...mid--day not teatime ffs, Ken Dodd, Les Dawson, the Navy Lark, Round the Horne, the barely believable Archie Andrews (a ventriloquist on the radio ??), Al Reade, very funny on the radio, excruciating when he was on tele. Wilfred Pickles during the week, "Worker's Playtime" live from works canteens, like Metrovics, Kelloggs, Turner and Newall, ICI, Refuge, Massey-Ferguson...catch-phrase "Givem the money Mabel", For near-the-knuckle double-entendre, Humph Littleton was in a class of his own, so was on late evenings, A massive difference back in the 50's/60's was actual accountability for politicians, due to non-partisan press coverage, and the press-barons who had a reputation to care about, though unless you were around at the time, you will not believe it. Careers for women were much rarer then, motherhood as a full-time occupation was the norm. The after-work sessions in pubs, for factory workers, predominantly blokes was a way of life for many, wives given a set amount to pay for food and rent, hand-me-down shoes and clothes a necessity. Wakes-weeks in the seaside towns, different shops for vegetables, bread, meat newspapers/tobacco and ironmongery, washing lines full of white cotton sheets and shirts, Gathering pitch from melting tarmac on the roads, street cricket....three gardens and you're out, one-handed catches off the privets as well...

















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1. We used to play ‘non stop cricket’
The wicket was the street lamp below a certain level. The batter used his hands, feet, anything as the ball was a tennis ball. You hit the ball and you had to run to a point at right angles to the ‘pitch’ and back. The bowler could bowl as soon as he got the ball back. Brilliant with about half a dozen playing.
2. Wilfred Pickles was sacked by the BBC for signing off by saying. “Good night …..or as they say in Yorkshire ‘good neet’.
I think they took him back after northerners created a fuss but the Beeb is still prejudiced against northern England accents.
 
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When the "star prize" was announced there'd be a glamorous blonde leaning over the shiny new car or fancy set of furniture or whatever. I used to ask "does the girl go with it?" and get a slap from me mam.
 
2. Wilfred Pickles was sacked by the BBC for signing off by saying. “Good night …..or as they say in Yorkshire ‘good neet’.
Who was it on the BBC who got in trouble for mis-pronouncing what should have come across as "'And now we have a talk on the Land of the Niger"?
 
Kenneth Williams camping it up and getting away with it.
“I’m Jules and this is my friend Sandy”
And his use of Polari, the ‘secret’ language of gays then.
“Oo, vada the queen, vada the queen”

Hello Mr Horne! I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy. We're solicitors and operate a large criminal practise! (nudge nudge!)
 
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I know that in some quarters this is like shitting on the altar of British comedy, but I can honestly say I've never heard a single clip off the Goon Show that makes me laugh. I honestly can't. I think to myself, “Is it me or what?”

It was the range of voices that did it. Neddy Seagoon, Bluebottle, Eccles, Colonel Bludnock etc together with the nonsensical plots e.g. The Goons built a replica of Mount Everest in Hyde Park and the council made them dismantle it. On one occasion it was the end of a particular series and one episode was outstanding. However Spike Milligan was sectioned to a mental ward owing to a suicide attempt (not for the 1st time) and Harry Secombe had appendicitis and couldn't perform. Peter Sellers, a brilliant mimic, shrugged and did that entire show on his own using all the voices. Nobody ever knew.
 
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It does beg the question though have things improved, yes we have more cures for things but you can’t get to a doctor or dentist, the internet has brung the world closer but made us more isolated I think, the sense of community has gone for one of selfishness and life in general seems on the whole worse when you see the news etc. Now many may argue the world has always been crap but we just didn’t have access to it 24/7 like now but also the pressure that either is self inflicted or inflicted by others to get that perfect job, house, car holiday just didn’t seem to be there. Sometimes I think ignorance is bliss and if social media disappeared tomorrow peoples expectations would lower and people would be happier than trying to chase that perfect lifestyle. I’m not alarmist but I do think we are heading towards something big in the next 20 years that may well define the world for generations, whether it’s all out war or possibly so technological break through that will benefit mankind, I just hope it’s the later. Anyway enough musing of a FOC, I miss large Wham bars.
 
The Greyhound on Councillor Lane was briefly renamed The Gamecock before becoming a private housing estate. Same fate befell The Wembley after being renamed The Doubloon then quickly demolished to become a care home. The Adswood Hotel has just been turned into one as well. Only The Cross Keys left and its bowling green became a block of flats years ago.
Was it not The Game Bird?
 
Anybody do the 'Whit walks'? I remember as a young'un in Uppermill walking behind a big church banner with my Sunday School mates and using pea shooters to bombard other Sunday Schools from Delph and Dobcross. The walk culminated in a brass band contest in the park. For all I know these walks still occur.
Whit walks was a big thing in Wythenshawe. What seemed to be a Protestant v Catholic as to who had the loudest band. William Temple CLB or St Anthony’s following from the WHP side and a gathering of everyone else either at the old CA or I remember it being outside the Forum once. When we were young, my sister and I used to follow my brothers in the CLB when they marched. The Saturday night the lads bedroom was full of cleaning stuff for their uniform and whitening doing the drag ropes for the drums. I can see it now.
 
Whit walks was a big thing in Wythenshawe. What seemed to be a Protestant v Catholic as to who had the loudest band. William Temple CLB or St Anthony’s following from the WHP side and a gathering of everyone else either at the old CA or I remember it being outside the Forum once. When we were young, my sister and I used to follow my brothers in the CLB when they marched. The Saturday night the lads bedroom was full of cleaning stuff for their uniform and whitening doing the drag ropes for the drums. I can see it now.
I can only have been seven or eight but the memories of it are still pretty vivid.
 
I know that in some quarters this is like shitting on the altar of British comedy, but I can honestly say I've never heard a single clip off the Goon Show that makes me laugh. I honestly can't. I think to myself, “Is it me or what?”
Agreed. They were slightly before my time but, from clips I've heard, they're just not funny. Like Jim Carrey, only with them it was silly voices rather than silly faces.
 
I know that in some quarters this is like shitting on the altar of British comedy, but I can honestly say I've never heard a single clip off the Goon Show that makes me laugh. I honestly can't. I think to myself, “Is it me or what?”

Comedy outside of films never really found it's way until the late 60's for me. The Ealing comedy films were monumentally funny though.Screenshot 2025-07-06 at 17-39-41 Ealing comedy films - Google Search.png

You throw in the great Norman Wisdom and you've got a huge selection of classic greats to mull over.
 
It was the range of voices that did it. Neddy Seagoon, Bluebottle, Eccles, Colonel Bludnock etc together with the nonsensical plots e.g. The Goons built a replica of Mount Everest in Hyde Park and the council made them dismantle it. On one occasion it was the end of a particular series and one episode was outstanding. However Spike Milligan was sectioned to a mental ward owing to a suicide attempt (not for the 1st time) and Harry Secombe had appendicitis and couldn't perform. Peter Sellers, a brilliant mimic, shrugged and did that entire show on his own using all the voices. Nobody ever knew.

I am aware of all that. And I do recognise it. It was new. And incidentally, I should mention that they were much loved in my family. It was almost a family cult. With my two elder brothers competing in their impression of Bluebottle. Tiresome… So there was “pressure” on me to go along with the cult. And yes, Sellers was a brilliant mimic. Just, never made me laugh, even in the Pink Panther films.
Anyway, it's striking how often humour is tied to its time. Stuff that makes us laugh now will probably seem utterly unfunny forty years up the road.

Edit: Sellers' best role(s) is in Dr Strangelove, for my money, which I even have on DVD. It's just on the edge of madness, and it's riveting.
 
Anyway enough musing of a FOC, I miss large Wham bars.

On that note (there was a thread for this, I'm aware) what in God's name has happened to Bounty plain chocolate! (Not — emphatically not — milk). Has it been abolished by Act of Parliament? Used to love snaffling one, or even two, on the fly, and it just hit the spot perfectly! When I was over in London/Oxford for the Cup final recently I actively tried to seek them out. They can't be had for love nor money in France (milk chocolate ones everywhere, in all big supermarkets). Nor, apparently, in England, now. Criminal.
 
On that note (there was a thread for this, I'm aware) what in God's name has happened to Bounty plain chocolate! (Not — emphatically not — milk). Has it been abolished by Act of Parliament? Used to love snaffling one, or even two, on the fly, and it just hit the spot perfectly! When I was over in London/Oxford for the Cup final recently I actively tried to seek them out. They can't be had for love nor money in France (milk chocolate ones everywhere, in all big supermarkets). Nor, apparently, in England, now. Criminal.
Why can't I find dark chocolate Bounty?


Mars UK has confirmed that the iconic Dark Bounty will be permanently removed from shelves. The move comes after milk chocolate version of the popular coconut flavoured snack were removed from the selection of Celebrations tubs

 

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