PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Centurions said:
But isn't that what Stefan is doing (no disrespect meant to him)?

For the record I have no clue which is closer to the truth but accept that both have been "told something" and are only posting in good faith.
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But with a complete absence of information from anyone else including our darlings in the media, doesn't that back up Stefan's position that it's extremely likely that we don't know? It seems much more reasonable than people on both sides knowing for months and seemingly only leaking it to PB?
 
Don’t worry lads, we can always use the delorean to go back and change the course of history if it all goes tits up.


-:)
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Is it possible that both are right?

1. Khaldoon was given the nod months ago that we would come out of this well - That isnt a sight of the formal written up judgement, just a verbal update from someone close to the case and trusted. (Colin)
2. The written judgement hasn't yet been received. (Stefan)

I wish these two would have a conversation over a glass of red wine and share their thoughts in an attempt to get to a mutual position - they are both respected and valued members of this community. That would at least stop this thread growing at 40 odd pages a day. Or maybe events will overtake that anyway.

or I am being naive?
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Perhaps approach the Guardian to host the event?
Dining across the divide
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Is it possible that both are right?

1. Khaldoon was given the nod months ago that we would come out of this well - That isnt a sight of the formal written up judgement, just a verbal update from someone close to the case and trusted. (Colin)
2. The written judgement hasn't yet been received. (Stefan)

I wish these two would have a conversation over a glass of red wine and share their thoughts in an attempt to get to a mutual position - they are both respected and valued members of this community. That would at least stop this thread growing at 40 odd pages a day. Or maybe events will overtake that anyway.

or I am being naive?
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Or charity boxing match
 
Pardon my ignorance but what is the point in not revealing a source? Is this place wired up to the balls with City personnel monitoring their name or some bollocks
 
Regardless of the eventual verdict, most of our rivals either don't understand the complexity and serious nature of the charges or simply assume that we're guilty anyway, so publication of the verdict won't make much difference.

Yesterday provided the perfect microcosm when I umpired a prestigious junior county cricket match (Derbyshire v South Yorkshire) and was talking to my fellow match official Malcolm Wright.

Malcolm was a Season Ticket holder at Bramall Lane, but was born and bred in Southend, and had attended their recent Wembley defeat to Oldham.

He was a really interesting character, especially when he confided that he also used to be a First Division/Premier League Linesman from 1981-1993

Most of his career had been in the Part Time era so he only tended to officiate at games in the South East. However, he had definitely "run the line" at a couple of City games and was particularly complimentary about Keith Curle's good manners in stark contrast to the Match Officials having to call the Police at Highbury after United's Martin Edwards had stormed into their Changing Room and made all sorts of wild accusations.

Everything was great until literally out of the blue:

"So when are City going to be punished then? It's taking far too long"
"Probably because they're innocent of the really serious stuff"
"It's not fair though when other teams are being fined or relegated"
"Yes, but those teams failed financial regulations. City have been accused of something far more serious"
"Well, it just doesn't wash with me"

So there you have it
We're guilty because it's taken so long and other teams have been punished for something else
 
ayrshire_blue said:
But with a complete absence of information from anyone else including our darlings in the media, doesn't that back up Stefan's position that it's extremely likely that we don't know? It seems much more reasonable than people on both sides knowing for months and seemingly only leaking it to PB?
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I would like to know if they use in house printing or use an outside company. If it is an outside printer then someone else knows!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Sorry, but I was out for a long-arranged meal with some old friends last night. A bit inconsiderate I know when I should have cancelled and stayed in to be patronised by pompous and self-righteous dickheads on here.

I'll say what I said a few days ago, which is that if I'm confident of my source, I'll post if I can in good faith, I don't make stuff up for attention. I've had my fingers burnt before and it may be that I've had my fingers burnt again. I don't know, but I do know that if I am wrong, no one will die because of that. And if I'm right, no one will be miraculously cured of life-threatening illnesses.

And I'm still confident on the basis of what we do know that we have no case to answer on the substantive charges.

And champagne gets me very pissed and is the only drink that gives me a hangover. So can I have red wine please?
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Ali Campbell likes this.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Sorry, but I was out for a long-arranged meal with some old friends last night. A bit inconsiderate I know when I should have cancelled and stayed in to be patronised by pompous and self-righteous dickheads on here.

I'll say what I said a few days ago, which is that if I'm confident of my source, I'll post if I can in good faith, I don't make stuff up for attention. I've had my fingers burnt before and it may be that I've had my fingers burnt again. I don't know, but I do know that if I am wrong, no one will die because of that. And if I'm right, no one will be miraculously cured of life-threatening illnesses.

And I'm still confident on the basis of what we do know that we have no case to answer on the substantive charges.

And champagne gets me very pissed and is the only drink that gives me a hangover. So can I have red wine please?
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Oh there will be reds whining alright when the verdict comes through.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Regardless of the eventual verdict, most of our rivals either don't understand the complexity and serious nature of the charges or simply assume that we're guilty anyway, so publication of the verdict won't make much difference.

Yesterday provided the perfect microcosm when I umpired a prestigious junior county cricket match (Derbyshire v South Yorkshire) and was talking to my fellow match official Malcolm Wright.

Malcolm was a Season Ticket holder at Bramall Lane, but was born and bred in Southend, and had attended their recent Wembley defeat to Oldham.

He was a really interesting character, especially when he confided that he also used to be a First Division/Premier League Linesman from 1981-1993

Most of his career had been in the Part Time era so he only tended to officiate at games in the South East. However, he had definitely "run the line" at a couple of City games and was particularly complimentary about Keith Curle's good manners in stark contrast to the Match Officials having to call the Police at Highbury after United's Martin Edwards had stormed into their Changing Room and made all sorts of wild accusations.

Everything was great until literally out of the blue:

"So when are City going to be punished then? It's taking far too long"
"Probably because they're innocent of the really serious stuff"
"It's not fair though when other teams are being fined or relegated"
"Yes, but those teams failed financial regulations. City have been accused of something far more serious"
"Well, it just doesn't wash with me"

So there you have it
We're guilty because it's taken so long and other teams have been punished for something else
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The mere existence of the charges is in itself proof of guilt, and the large number of them is further proof of their seriousness and the club’s culpability.
No more thought and analysis need be applied for some.
 
Coatigan said:
Of course you are. Zero issue with that, or anyone else having a theory. Can disagree, dispute, see something in it, agree, whatever.

But when you repeatedly try to impose that theory with 'sources telling you', then people will call it out.


I disagree, it is restrained given how much it has got on my tits, and for how long! But happy to ease off for the sake of the respect others seem to have for PB.
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Tits?

You know the rules ;)
 
Gazza said:
If certain people are hearing things for their 'source', the fact that these sources are releasing privileged, sensitive information in the first place surely makes them untrustworthy.
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Which is part of the point I was making yesterday.

The “source” is either untrustworthy because they’ve released extremely important information, or they’re providing the information (falsely) to see if you leak it and out you as a ****, or the poster is simply making it up.
 
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