James Trafford

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I knew he had been with us since he was a kid and knew he moved to Burnley, but that was it. Just checked out his record, it's pretty amazing sounds like he is a real talent. I'm guessing his distribution might not be as good as Edisons but who's is? His shot stopping looks amazing.
 
Those who keep banging on about banging on about Trafford being young and a risk seemed to have overlooked what our transfer policy now is.. to buy young and invest in the future . We are now in an almost total re-build. As for Trafford those expressing doubts did not watch him last season.
I agree on some level, but then look we bough Khusanov and Reis for relatively large fees as young investments for the future, and they are still not preferred over the likes of Akanji, Ake and out of form Dias, unless pep was forced to play them.... So it would be a change in policy to sell 1-2 established senior players for a younger prospect and throw them in the deep end as a certified starter. Trafford looks a huge prospect but you have to factor in he struggled last time he stepped up to the premier league, though of course things can change as he is still very young for a GK.

I think the only way this really works is if Ederson see's out his contract, we see if Trafford can step up over the season, if not revisit next summer. Consider Gala rumoured to offer 3m, may as well get Ederson to stay for a year tbh as a safety net....
 
So around 40m for a number two keeper?

And what around 80/90 million spent on two keepers. Can’t see that happening.

We’ll sign one keeper who will end being first choice. Trafford isn’t moving here to be a back up

I think we will go for that Werder Bremen keeper. If Ortega goes there were links last summer to him when it was hinted Ortega wanted to leave.
 
People can keep saying this till the ends of times.

It has been pretty evident the last 10 years that Pep and the club care more about how comfortable someone is with their feet. If they aren't they can't play for City period. It's not something they can ignore it's vital to the way Pep wants to play.

Valdes wasn't the best at shot stopping by any means but he was with his feet that's why he played under Pep. Same goes for Bravo. It's been this way Peps whole career and it won't change. Being great with their feet is first thing a Pep GK needs.
So what happened in 2 years when pep goes and we have to rebuild to our next coach . It’s called moving with the times and bringing new ideas and new players in also pep must see somthing he likes in Trafford for this to even be thought about .
 
I think we will go for that Werder Bremen keeper. If Ortega goes there were links last summer to him when it was hinted Ortega wanted to leave.
Personally can't see us replacing all 3 keepers. Too much upheaval. Also would be tough for a 22 year old to come in as number 1 and have nobody else in his position to get guidance from as they are also all new to City.

For me the likeliest scenario surely is Pep promoting Ortega to number 1 initially while Trafford gets his feet under the ground and learns to play for a Pep side.
 
Personally can't see us replacing all 3 keepers. Too much upheaval. Also would be tough for a 22 year old to come in as number 1 and have nobody else in his position to get guidance from as they are also all new to City.

For me the likeliest scenario surely is Pep promoting Ortega to number 1 initially while Trafford gets his feet under the ground and learns to play for a Pep side.
Wasn’t Trafford brought up on the pep style in our academy?
 
So what happened in 2 years when pep goes and we have to rebuild to our next coach . It’s called moving with the times and bringing new ideas and new players in also pep must see somthing he likes in Trafford for this to even be thought about .
I find it odd that there was considerable disappointment last season with our tactics.. build up too slow, high line etc
and a demand that Pep change his tactics as every side had sussed us out. Yet there seems less appetite for a change in goalkeeping tactics
 
Wasn’t Trafford brought up on the pep style in our academy?
Still think it's a lot of pressure to put on a 22 year old coming up from the Championship and something very un like Pep to do. Say Pep does throw Trafford in at the Deep end from the off and he looks to be struggling a bit. Suddenly our no.2 is also another brand new keeper that we don't know can handle it or not.

Just think Pep will want some continuity initially.
 
Still think it's a lot of pressure to put on a 22 year old coming up from the Championship and something very un like Pep to do. Say Pep does throw Trafford in at the Deep end from the off and he looks to be struggling a bit. Suddenly our no.2 is also another brand new keeper that we don't know can handle it or not.

Just think Pep will want some continuity initially.
That’s the risk with any young player though. Ederson was only young when we signed for city as well.

Unless we only buy ready made players this could always happen
 
Getting a different keeper in means a change in style

Teams have basically stopped pressing us cause Ederson is so good with his fet its like having a midfielder play in the back line .

Changing to a keeper who aint nowhere near as good with his feet or as comfortable (and thats not a criticism- more a refletion of how good and unique Ederson is) means teams will start to press us again...and with our shakey back line Im not sure that issuch a great idea

No way he comes in as a no.2 either

Im happy for us to keep Edersonbut if he wants to go then there is nothing we can do about it really
 
Still think it's a lot of pressure to put on a 22 year old coming up from the Championship and something very un like Pep to do. Say Pep does throw Trafford in at the Deep end from the off and he looks to be struggling a bit. Suddenly our no.2 is also another brand new keeper that we don't know can handle it or not.

Just think Pep will want some continuity initially.
Bravo...
 
I’m delighted, it’s an absolute no-brainer. Home grown so frees up a spot elsewhere, City fan, he’s big.

What’s not to like?

Edit…and should add does anyone think Newcastle are that daft that they were prepared to pay in excess of £30mil for him if they hadn’t done due diligence?
 
Getting a different keeper in means a change in style

Teams have basically stopped pressing us cause Ederson is so good with his fet its like having a midfielder play in the back line .

Changing to a keeper who aint nowhere near as good with his feet or as comfortable (and thats not a criticism- more a refletion of how good and unique Ederson is) means teams will start to press us again...and with our shakey back line Im not sure that issuch a great idea

No way he comes in as a no.2 either

Im happy for us to keep Edersonbut if he wants to go then there is nothing we can do about it really
They already press the defence, just don't bother to press Ederson as he'll make you run up to him then make you look daft. You see it when Ortega plays, forwards press him and close down his options. Whenever Ederson leaves, it'll change, there's no other keeper like him but they will bring other strengths
 
Re the age issue. Haaland was 21 when he signed for City. I would suggest that the pressure on a centre-forward is almost as great as that on a goalie
 
Getting a different keeper in means a change in style

Teams have basically stopped pressing us cause Ederson is so good with his fet its like having a midfielder play in the back line .

Changing to a keeper who aint nowhere near as good with his feet or as comfortable (and thats not a criticism- more a refletion of how good and unique Ederson is) means teams will start to press us again...and with our shakey back line Im not sure that issuch a great idea

No way he comes in as a no.2 either

Im happy for us to keep Edersonbut if he wants to go then there is nothing we can do about it really

We need teams to press us. Otherwise we turn Ruben Dias into a deep lying playmaker and fuck all happens.
 
They already press the defence, just don't bother to press Ederson as he'll make you run up to him then make you look daft. You see it when Ortega plays, forwards press him and close down his options. Whenever Ederson leaves, it'll change, there's no other keeper like him but they will bring other strengths
Yes and now witha. new keeper they will also press the keeper.....so not a great idea.

Id rather put our energy and money into buying another top class centre half and a right back which we are in dire need of

A new keeper is not a priority - right back and centre half are
 
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