Jack Grealish | Set to join Everton on season-long loan

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I think city should hold out and try to sell him. It’s WC year. If city tells Grealish that the only move away is a pay cut + permanent move then he will have no other choice. Otherwise city will loan him out for the next 2 seasons.
 
King Jay said:
I think city should hold out and try to sell him. It’s WC year. If city tells Grealish that the only move away is a pay cut + permanent move then he will have no other choice. Otherwise city will loan him out for the next 2 seasons.
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Depends if his heart is in appearing at the WC or if he’s happy collecting his £300,000 a week and spending his time on the piss with Walker and Carson.
 
BlueLou82 said:
Very reliable for Everton stuff.
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Fuck off unless they're picking up his entire wages.
Realise he has zero chance of getting minutes with us - Pep's decision so that's the end of that - but Everton are trying a Scouse rob job I reckon.
Not even sure he's a moyes player.
We're not running a charity where Jack's concerned, need to get market value - most of his wages and a decent loan fee, or £40m
 
richards30 said:
£10m loan fee would be premium
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He's costing us £20m a season, would be a complete unmitigated disaster if we end up loaning our record buy to reduce losses. In a market where youve got elanga going for £55m, madueke £52m, mbuemo for £71m ita unacceptable to not at the very least be able to write him off now.

If we loan him out, he's being loaned put until his contract expires. Play hardball, it's a permanent deal or he stays and we see what offers comes in January.
 
ninjamonkey said:
He's costing us £20m a season, would be a complete unmitigated disaster if we end up loaning our record buy to reduce losses. In a market where youve got elanga going for £55m, madueke £52m, mbuemo for £71m ita unacceptable to not at the very least be able to write him off now.

If we loan him out, he's being loaned put until his contract expires. Play hardball, it's a permanent deal or he stays and we see what offers comes in January.
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I think he’ll be loaned out until he has one year left. Thats one year on 300k a week - a club could come along and give him a 4 year contract at say 150 and everyone is a winner. Grealish is made whole, City get shot and a team at his level get a player with a reputation but can fit into their wage structure

He’ll also surely have a book value of zero by then so even a 10million fee will decent
 
Blue Hefner said:
I think he’ll be loaned out until he has one year left. Thats one year on 300k a week - a club could come along and give him a 4 year contract at say 150 and everyone is a winner. Grealish is made whole, City get shot and a team at his level get a player with a reputation but can fit into their wage structure

He’ll also surely have a book value of zero by then so even a 10million fee will decent
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I suspect thats what will happen, I predicted this as far back as 12 months ago but can't agree that everyone is a winner if thats the case, the club very much lose out if that happens.

I will quickly correct myself and say he isnt costing us £20m a season. I forgot he was on a 6 year deal not 5 so hes costing us £16.7m a year.

He can't have a zero book value before his contract is up, nobody can. The only way somebody has a zero book value is if they sign on a free or are from the academy. There's also some murky grey area with the new rules implemented to stop the 10 year contracts lowering amortization and potential to abuse contract renewals in the same manner but i wont bore you with any of that as none of it applies to Grealish.
 
ninjamonkey said:
I suspect thats what will happen, I predicted this as far back as 12 months ago but can't agree that everyone is a winner if thats the case, the club very much lose out if that happens.

I will quickly correct myself and say he isnt costing us £20m a season. I forgot he was on a 6 year deal not 5 so hes costing us £16.7m a year.

He can't have a zero book value before his contract is up, nobody can. The only way somebody has a zero book value is if they sign on a free or are from the academy. There's also some murky grey area with the new rules implemented to stop the 10 year contracts lowering amortization and potential to abuse contract renewals in the same manner but i wont bore you with any of that as none of it applies to Grealish.
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Re book value I thought it was amortised over 4 years(maybe 5 depending on the new rules)

Either way. City might not be ‘winners’ in my scenario but they will have no real choice and it’s a matter of cutting their losses

The signing was over the top at the time. He was never a 100mil player and I’d suggest anyone that thought he was needed their head testing and so it proved. We are lumbered. Also, his wages, why make him one of the highest paid, he’s have probably signed for half the money(which would be more reasonable given his ability)

He’s highly unlikely to play for us again so the less financially painful route is the one that needs to be explored not some fantasy about him getting back to form and attracting offers. He needs to be punted out to all and sundry to see who bites
 
Blue Hefner said:
Re book value I thought it was amortised over 4 years(maybe 5 depending on the new rules)

Either way. City might not be ‘winners’ in my scenario but they will have no real choice and it’s a matter of cutting their losses

The signing was over the top at the time. He was never a 100mil player and I’d suggest anyone that thought he was needed their head testing and so it proved. We are lumbered. Also, his wages, why make him one of the highest paid, he’s have probably signed for half the money(which would be more reasonable given his ability)

He’s highly unlikely to play for us again so the less financially painful route is the one that needs to be explored not some fantasy about him getting back to form and attracting offers. He needs to be punted out to all and sundry to see who bites
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He signed a six year deal before the rules were changed to stop the Chelsea scam.
Two years left so book value about £35-40m
Of course the wages are a huge extra expense
That’s why Hugo is getting the big bucks I guess
I’d keep him 100% but that ship has sailed, sadly
 
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