James McAtee | Agreement with Forest - £30m overall

[Bill Walker]

Forest just flogged rag reject Elanga for £55m (bought for £15m) and want JM for £25m? Tell the deluded fuckers to do one.

Id put him at circa 32 million.
1 year left weakens our hand.

 

[Mcfcok1971]

Id put him at circa 32 million.
1 year left weakens our hand.

Agree they may stretch to 30 with add ons

 

[Dazzle84]

The weight of the City shirt weighs too heavy on him at this stage in his career.

Undoubtedly he has the talent, but he doesn't have the confidence to assert himself when he gets a chance. Cherki is a year younger and you can already see from the CWC that he believes he belongs here. Trying to make things happen every game.

Funnily enough I think playing for his boyhood club is actually holding him back a bit. Reckon he needs to care a bit less and be a bit more arrogant

 

[hammersmithlad]

Do think he's a talented lad & clearly loves City. However, seems to lack confidence when playing in the first eleven & probably does need to move on to get more playing time & more importantly get his self-esteem back similar to his EDS days.

City would be foolish not to insert some sort of buy-back clause, even if its at the expense of a lower transfer fee.

 

[Dazzle84]

My mistake about the maestro.

Still the HG rule should be abolished and replaced with an English rule.

Explanation:
The Premier League's definition of "home grown" player includes those who, regardless of their nationality, have been affiliated with the club for three years before the age of 21.

David Silva joined Manchester City from Valencia in 2010, and he was already 24 years old at the time. Therefore, he did not meet the age requirement for the three-year period.

Problem with the English rule is the number of dual nationalities. Olise was born in London, had the option of 4 national teams and chose France. If we go with the 'English' requirement he wouldn't be classed as homegrown

I know there's simple ways to solve that, but that probably only means there'd be simple ways to get around them too.

 

[Coatigan]

Anything north of 25mil is great money, but expecting anything like £42.5mil is pure fantasy

Sure, but £35m is a good middle ground and feasible for both.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I can never make my mind up with the lad either. Does some nice things- my thoughts were last season the clock could be 30 mins plus before you remember he is playing? Seems to go off the grid a bit.

Agree. He's had a few decent chances and done very little. Playing well off the bench in a cup game where we are already comfortable is one thing. Starting a league game and making an impact from the start is another.

There's obviously a player there but we just don't have the space for him. We have 6 senior players who can all play in his position and only 2 or 3 get to start each game. He probably doesn't get on the bench if everyone is fit.

 

[mexico1970]

Problem with the English rule is the number of dual nationalities. Olise was born in London, had the option of 4 national teams and chose France. If we go with the 'English' requirement he wouldn't be classed as homegrown

I know there's simple ways to solve that, but that probably only means there'd be simple ways to get around them too.

Shit show mate, I suppose we could always just go for whatever national team they opt for, if they choose England they get a berth but to do that they'd have to pick the national side earlier than they do.

It would really help if only English players play for England. With all that said we might as well do away with the rule entirely.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I'll be honest, I really rate McAtee and will be gutted to see him leave. Pretty sure he'll be another to prove us wrong for not giving him more of a chance.

But I do think it's pretty ambitious to expect around £40m for a player we refused to use - at the expense of some drastically over the hill players - during our worst run of form since the Pearce era.

 

[SiMCFC]

Still unsure as to why we asked the lad to re-sign to then bench him until we literally had nobody to play. Just let the lad go and play football ffs, one of the most frustrating things Pep and City have done over the last 10 Years for me is their treatment of J.M. no need for it and it looks like shit to anyone outside of the club tbh.

 

[Utter bobbins]

Still unsure as to why we asked the lad to re-sign to then bench him until we literally had nobody to play. Just let the lad go and play football ffs, one of the most frustrating things Pep and City have done over the last 10 Years for me is their treatment of J.M. no need for it and it looks like shit to anyone outside of the club tbh.

Or perhaps he didn’t kick on like he was expected to

 

[citizen_maine]

This HG specification needs to change I don't even know why they have it. Wasn't David Silva classed as HG as is Oscar Bobb?

The rule IMHO should be English players.

It's supposed to encourage clubs to make their own players rather than buy them. The fear was that the big clubs would and did buy all the young talent and stockpile it

 

[melrose40yarder]

We should rip thier hands off dor 25 mill

 

[Dazzle84]

Shit show mate, I suppose we could always just go for whatever national team they opt for, if they choose England they get a berth but to do that they'd have to pick the national side earlier than they do.

It would really help if only English players play for England. With all that said we might as well do away with the rule entirely.

Not sure I get that, surely being English is the pre-requisite for playing for England?

 

[SiMCFC]

Or perhaps he didn’t kick on like he was expected to

Nobody can "kick on" when they are given the scraps that He has imo. It's been a continuation of the absolute shit show of playing certain players, whether they have been in form or not for the last couple of seasons, Pep has to be braver going forwards. I said the exact same with Palmer the season before we did the same to Him.

 

[Utter bobbins]

Nobody can "kick on" when they are given the scraps that He has imo. It's been a continuation of the absolute shit show of playing certain players, whether they have been in form or not for the last couple of seasons, Pep has to be braver going forwards. I said the exact same with Palmer the season before we did the same to Him.

Pep watches them everyday in training you don’t

 

[Dr Jacoby]

Throw in Grealish and Phillips and they’ve got themselves a deal.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I'll be honest, I really rate McAtee and will be gutted to see him leave. Pretty sure he'll be another to prove us wrong for not giving him more of a chance.

But I do think it's pretty ambitious to expect around £40m for a player we refused to use - at the expense of some drastically over the hill players - during our worst run of form since the Pearce era.

We're not going to get close to that. Be realistic. He's hardly been in the shop window. Which brings me to my other point — has he actually played a full ninety-minute league game? Even in things like the League Cup, FA Cup, has it been only in early rounds? It's a real question. I don't see how any young player who isn't incredibly gifted can prove himself in fifteen-minute cameos.
I'm not even saying James is the real deal. I'm just saying we haven't seen enough. Oh well, they see him in training of course. But training is not, and will never be, a match. A full match.
There were injuries galore last season, and in midfield, nobody, not even Kev, was ripping up trees.

 

[mexico1970]

Not sure I get that, surely being English is the pre-requisite for playing for England?

Not at all some players can play for many countries.

 

[mexico1970]

It's supposed to encourage clubs to make their own players rather than buy them. The fear was that the big clubs would and did buy all the young talent and stockpile it

And that's exactly what we are doing now, buying loads and loads of young players but this time for profit.