Tino Livramento

I agree with everyone here we are a championship team at best and Pep is a clown I'm heading to support Sunderland at least they have been ambitious in the market.

Ederson/Trafford
Nunes,Dias,gvardiol,ran
Rodri
Reijnders, gundogan/cherki/silva
Marmoush haaland doku

Pile of shite not one of them can start for ireland
If you’re gonna go to those extremes, I think the XI you put up is better XI Barcelona 2015 and Doku Is better than Prime Ronaldinho and Marmoush reminds me of Maradona in 86 and yeah, Nunez at RB plays like Maicon under Mourinho.
Listen, no one’s saying we are shite, we have a very good squad, but I just believe that it’s no longer the best XI in the league or UCL, Madrid, Barca, PSG, Arsenal and Liverpool teams are all slightly better right now, once again that’s just my opinion.
 
Trafford signing kinda relieves the HG situation, no? Of course we need to sell NHG players, but is not so critical

Also there are not very much good HG RBs we could sign

Newcastle won’t sell Livramento
Spence will sign a new deal with Spurs

Achaempeong is very promising player, but it seems Chelsea won’t sell him + is too young

I like Ryan Andrews from Watford, looks like a very promising player
No not at all. We still need to get rid of 5 foreign players if we were to sign 1. So that restricts us to home grown or nothing until we get rid of a bunch.
 
Trafford signing kinda relieves the HG situation, no? Of course we need to sell NHG players, but is not so critical

Also there are not very much good HG RBs we could sign

Newcastle won’t sell Livramento
Spence will sign a new deal with Spurs

Achaempeong is very promising player, but it seems Chelsea won’t sell him + is too young

I like Ryan Andrews from Watford, looks like a very promising player
We currently have 21 non-HG
Echeverri and Reis on loan
Ederson/Ortega, Akanji, Gundogan sold

would leave us at 16, allowing 1 NHG RB
 
Our last 3 years have been pretty average that’s why so many have caught up. They caught up and are pressing ahead while we still look around fair bargain's. Instead of singing 4 or 5 players every year one or two top notch players add to the squad and stop letting all our decent players get old together.
Bargains? Christ.
 
Don’t include me with you. If you only watch the premier league just say it. It’s not names of football manager these are just known names and if you think Dumfries isn’t anything special or whatever then I honestly have no idea what you are looking for at the full back position. Mendes and Hakimi are not available.
What exactly is special in your eyes?


The usual bullshit: no one knows how they would do in the PL and under a pep formation. No one would know hakimi and Mendes the top of the top would do in the PL yet you wouldn’t say no if they were about to join would you?

I get why we have the same players for years. The board must be thinking like you. The same players we are crying for are moving to other clubs. No one knows how Wirtz would do in the PL yet certain clubs were interested and Liverpool took the gamble.

„ how they would do in the PL“
When I read this I always need to puke
I’m not sure why I’m replying to you again - you’re ALWAYS right but here goes. (I must be bored lol)
The board must be thinking like you” I’ll take that over you thanks :)
I’ve seen Dumfries play about 15 times. He’s good. But that’s it. If we had space in the squad for a foreigner then for his release fee I’d probably take him short term to rotate with Nunes but Nunes had the attributes to be better under Pep imo. And there’s no space so it needs to be home grown or nothing.
In your highly expert opinion, who fits into that category. Joking aside I’d be genuinely interested to hear who you think fits that bill. And they’d need to be a hell of a lot better than our current right back options if they were to cost anything near 30m or over
 
A better question might be is there a HOME GROWN right-back who is 50/60/70 mil BETTER than those 4. Getting a foreign one is out of the question so that leaves us with who? Livramento - 70m better than Nunes? Not in a million years. Who else? No one I can think of. I was all against Nunes until after Xmas where I think he improved massively. playing in a settled team with world class players around him will also make a huge difference where he wont be getting over ran and exposed all the time. Rico was fine playing there as a Walker back up in a great team as well. If Rodri stays fit, the whole team is calmer and doesn't get countered any way near as much. The whole defence is 200% better with him there. And now, when he isn't, we will have players (Rudolf and Nico) who can step in - where we will be more electrifying going forward (Cherki, Ait Nouri, on form Foden, Marmoush, unleashed Doku) to counter the counter attacks
Good to read a positive post for once. The haggling and backbiting's done for now and it's time together behind the team again.
 
If you think Dumfries is anything other than a liability, you havent watched him enough. Take the worst aspects of Nunes, mix them with the worst aspects of Kyle Walker and you've got Dumfries.
For being such a liability he had a very good cl campaign. Also wonder how he is starting for the national team while making the UCL team of the season. Why didn’t inter get rid of him?
 
I’m not sure why I’m replying to you again - you’re ALWAYS right but here goes. (I must be bored lol)
The board must be thinking like you” I’ll take that over you thanks :)
I’ve seen Dumfries play about 15 times. He’s good. But that’s it. If we had space in the squad for a foreigner then for his release fee I’d probably take him short term to rotate with Nunes but Nunes had the attributes to be better under Pep imo. And there’s no space so it needs to be home grown or nothing.
In your highly expert opinion, who fits into that category. Jokingly aside I’d be genuinely interested to hear who you think fits that bill. And they’d need to be a hell of a lot better than our current right back options if they were to cost anything near 30m or over
Again. I started with Vanderson who is the complete package. Only reason you don’t know about him is that he‘s playing in Ligue 1.
Yesterday I saw someone telling that Grealish would be the best player when joining Monaco. I knew that that certain user doesn’t watch Ben Seghir or Alikouche.
 
We currently have 21 non-HG
Echeverri and Reis on loan
Ederson/Ortega, Akanji, Gundogan sold

would leave us at 16, allowing 1 NHG RB
But you say Ortega (Edison confined staying), Akanji and Gundo sold. That’s easier said than done. Akanji alone won’t want to go and there’s no links or rumours, so if it was even just him to go, then we are stuck
 
Again. I started with Vanderson who is the complete package. Only reason you don’t know about him is that he‘s playing in Ligue 1.
Yesterday I saw someone telling that Grealish would be the best player when joining Monaco. I knew that that certain user doesn’t watch Ben Seghir or Alikouche.
And Vanderson is English is he?
 
Better than Rico Lewis for sure, any RB in the PL is better RB than fucking Lewis, but Nunez is a better RB than both. Defensively and attacking wise, Nunez is actually an ok player.
Rico was great in a great team. I would chuck the towel in yet after one really bad season
 
For being such a liability he had a very good cl campaign. Also wonder how he is starting for the national team while making the UCL team of the season. Why didn’t inter get rid of him?
He did have a very good CL campaign, his first, at the age of 29. Inter fans before last season all wanted him gone.
 
I fear we were prepared to go with £60m plus up to £5m ish in add ons but Newcastle have probably been demanding around £80m guaranteed and City (rightly) just won’t go there. Maybe we hoped Newcastle would be more flexible but they’ve had an awful window so far and are probably in no mood to compromise.
This is on City mate. If Newcastle are quoting astronomical £100m - £130m prices, I'd understand City's reluctance, but media reports are stating they value Tino at £80m & that City are willing to pay £50m.

£65m plus add-ons should be enough to start serious dialogue between the club's. City must view a 22 year old Livramento as a long-term acquisition to replace Walker who we bought 9 years ago for £50m+.

In view of this, a relative bid for Tino at £65m plus add-ons makes complete sense to me. Livramento's had enough opportunity to kiss the Newcastle badge & say he's going nowhere & Newcastle have had enough time to say Tino's not for sale at any price. Neither has happened.
 
Rico was great in a great team. I would chuck the towel in yet after one really bad season
Agree,all great teams never had 11 superstar starters,loads of passengers carried by the best,Rico is nowhere near as bad as people think,just that last year all our superstars were shite too.
 
I agree with everyone here we are a championship team at best and Pep is a clown I'm heading to support Sunderland at least they have been ambitious in the market.

Ederson/Trafford
Nunes,Dias,gvardiol,ran
Rodri
Reijnders, gundogan/cherki/silva
Marmoush haaland doku

Pile of shite not one of them can start for ireland
I was with you all the way there pal and then you posted Nunes at right back…
 
Don’t see this one happening this summer at all now. Newcastle won’t want to lose him after the summer they’re having, especially with Isak looking likely to go for big money now too. The lad doesn’t feel like the type to kick up a fuss to move either. He’s young and although we’d be a step up, Newcastle aren’t exactly a bad team to stay and develop with. They’re a very good side and have Champions League to look forward too.

What I will say is it’s pretty bloody obvious he’s the player we want for right back and I back the club to go into this season with what we have now. I know there’s been a lot of doom and gloom about how we’re ’screwed’ this season if we don’t sign a right back, but I’d rather get the right one if we do. Outside of him I’m not convinced there’s anyone available in that position that would drastically improve us.

We’ll make a go of it with what we have this season and try our luck with him again next summer now I’m pretty sure. I’m ok with it.
I understand where you are coming from here but the flaw in your argument is that teams will target our right flank and that’ll be a problem all season. By leaving us exposed there it sounds like you are writing off the season before it starts. Fine, try again next summer for the lad but we need someone new there for this season.
 

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