PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Is it another sneaky rule change which has been slipped out quietly by the PL because it will support their ongoing narrative that City were unable to supply them with emails and documents
going back to 2008? How realistic is to ask any business to archive material going back 17 years when their books have been audited every year and been approved? The lack of transparency by the PL and the way it governs elite football is a disgrace. Does this rule extend to confidential financial documents provided by external sponsors which have no legal obligation to release their business documents....especially to be seen by their commercial rivals? The PL is a cowboy operation.
Clubs are now required to preserve documents AFTER they have been informed of an inquiry not in any event. If that new clause relates to our case it would perhaps to suggest some emails have gone missing during the enquiry. I doubt they do though as they are not dissimilar to other rules for other organisations.

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If we are exonerated we now can see the narrative that we are to be treated to. We had to change the rules to stop other teams exploiting the same loophole.
I love these sleeper accounts that seem to be activated more and more, recently :)

Welcome to the board.


Rag ;)
 
Look at Fordstam on Companies House.

This was in effect the holding company and is now in effect in limbo. Now that could be for a variety of reasons but I have thought for a while multiple records that were relevant to Fordstam were not held by the new owners but handed over to whoever.
 
Out there supporting dippers but 1.35 why did he not say, we are still awaiting the decision.
He knows the result, confidential my arse.


Talks Man City it says in the video title?

No he doesn't.

He's a fuckin balloon that lad masters, hasn't got a clue about anything but obviously lapping up the freebies in the US.
 
I love Connor Moore but the Premier league thinking that we should take the piss out of ourselves is fucking crazy.
Perhaps he would like to do some sketches on the incompetence of the EPL; City must have enough info to keep him going for years. Of course it may well be that Masters is quite capable of making the EPL look like fools all by himself.
 
the thing is Chelsea's lawyers are just very clever.
hotel sales, all above board
women team sales, all above board, others now started to copy...
and earlier the 8-9 year contracts which had to be approved until the changes happened, it did help them with some expensive players amortized costs early on...

they probably told new owners to admit some of sketchy stuff of the Abra era, and this will help to get tiny punishment, compared to PL finds out from different source and then goes on witch hunt like with City, even though the actual rules broken are just as sick or even worse than some of the 115 charges.
the amount potentially involved in us maybe paying Mancini bits and pieces through UAE club, doesnt even come close to Chelsea regularly paying off agents outside the accounts which helped them to get big players "cheaper" = sporting advantage.

make no mistake if we would report ourselves now that we see under the Sinawatra era there were some strange payments PL would start a huge investigation no matter what and media noise around it would be serious.
with Chelsea though I am doubtful they even get anything else than a small financial fine maybe. despite these do not even need much a hearing as they self admitted all of it.

the media silence on Chelsea's case is brutal. nobody interested, nobody asking for timelines, nobody impatient to know the punishment.
A few things are giving me an uneasy feeling about the Chelsea situation. Yes, they do seem to have some good lawyers exploiting every loophole in the various rule books, but good luck to them with that. They have every right to do this - within the rules.

But since they self-reported their own cheating, which the media seems very relaxed about, they have been, and by all accounts continue to be negotiating with the authorities for only financial punishments. This was reported in 2023:

“In accordance with the club’s ownership group’s core principles of full compliance and transparency with its regulators, we are grateful that this case has been concluded by proactive disclosure of information to UEFA and a settlement that fully resolves the reported matters.

“We wish to place on record our gratitude to UEFA for its consideration of this matter.”

Yes, no wonder they are grateful to UEFA for such a lenient punishment, when others (e.g. Juventus) received financial punishments as well as a ban from playing in UEFA competitions.

But since Chelsea confessed everything, the leaks that came to light in November 2023 have identified further cheating from Chelsea, which apparently they didn't self-report. So they weren't perhaps as honest and up-front as they would have had us believe, and they might have fallen short of their core principles of "full compliance and transparency with its regulators". This commitment to "full compliance" incidentally that led to a £27m fine this year for non-compliance.

By all accounts, Chelsea secured the signing of Hazard using dubious hidden payments to his agent, and prevented us from signing him at the time. I would say that this signing set us back significantly, and was definitely a major factor in Chelsea's success at the time, and at our expense.

In my opinion, this should result in sporting sanctions against Chelsea from both UEFA and the PL. UEFA tends to stick to is own limitation period of six years, but generally where this is legislated, limitation doesn't apply when facts (fraud) has been deliberately concealed, which is the situation with Chelsea.

Maybe the PL has other business occupying a lot of its time at the moment, but it is very quiet on the Chelsea front.
 
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Something isn't right. There is no way the red cartel teams are spending all this money without a tip off that something is happening.
Unless they have just guessed. I am a bit surprised especially at utd as they have broke PSRs a couple of times recently but have only escaped punishment as the PL gave them a special get out of jail free card due to covid losses. Well covid is over and they haven't sold any of their expensive flops as yet, I doubt they will get anywhere near what they want for Rashford, Sancho or Antony, but they are still spending? What other club would do this?
 
Just re-reading these rule changes I think Stefan has uncovered a big development in the story. The changed rules now state clubs must start saving relevant data as soon as they know they are under investigation. But the PL probe relates to data from more than six years ago well before the PL case was opened against City. Surely this can only mean that the PL have suffered a total defeat. It looks like they have pursued City even though they have no evidence.
It makes no sense.

The premier league have tried to charge us from 2009 to 2018 & if that rule was applied retrospectively, then even if there were any evidence of us disguising sponsorship money, which there isn't otherwise we'd have been charged by now, it would be long gone.

It wouldn't suprise me if this breaks data protection as it's not like the EPL to implement illegal rules for the behest of the cartel clubs.
 
Unless they have just guessed. I am a bit surprised especially at utd as they have broke PSRs a couple of times recently but have only escaped punishment as the PL gave them a special get out of jail free card due to covid losses. Well covid is over and they haven't sold any of their expensive flops as yet, I doubt they will get anywhere near what they want for Rashford, Sancho or Antony, but they are still spending? What other club would do this?

What they have done is used scruffy Jim as a patsy to partially sell part of the club to bring in money. Bet he’s got buyers remorse now.
 

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